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Affirmative action comes to mind.I wonder what all the virtue signalers and liberal legal minds say when presented this type of info?
Opinion | Disparity Doesn’t Necessarily Imply Racism
Today it’s more often the result of skills gaps than discrimination. That’s something every black student needs to know.
The soft bigotry of low expectations has crippled minorities in this country.
Let's explore that a bit.... Is it your opinion that historically civil service exams are without bias?
So here's the thing. If I don't know answers to the test, who's responsibility is it to go find the answers? You say that this race or that race isn't exposed to some things that other races might have common knowledge of. I say it you want to live in this society it's your responsibility to gain that knowledge. It's not my responsibility to build a test around what you know or don't know. It's to test you to see if you know what you need to know to have a chance to be successful in the job you've applied for.
See that's where we differ. I'm color blind. Its just common sense to me. It's the same standard for everyone. Learn or fail. All your doing is providing a crutch. Just like the opinion said.
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Far be it for me to speak for @davidallen, but I think he would argue (and it would be legitimate IMO) that the average caucasian in America would come from a neighborhood, cultural and educational experience that more closely resembles that which is expected of success in such a test. I think that is a legitimate concern, but diluting the rigor of the test questions seems to me to be the wrong solution. The test exists to find those who are qualified to do the job.
Which has nothing to do with the article/opinion.Harvard suspends star economist Roland Fryer following sexual harassment complaints - The Boston Globe
The punishment derails the career of a scholar who, at 30, became the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard.
carry on
You will have to excuse the board’s resident moron. He has to argue everything even when that argument solidifies his position as a moron.
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Sorry munch-bunch, but that article doesn’t explain how the tests are racially biased. Not even remotely. Please explain how requesting the next number in a series of numbers is racially biased. Please explain how placing birds on a wire in order based upon which is or isn’t next to which is racially biased. Please explain how providing a 3-paragraph passage and then asking the test-taker to identify the main point of that passage is racially biased. You have taken the SAT/ACT at some point, haven’t you? Because those are the types of questions asked.The Racist Beginnings of Standardized Testing | NEA
From grade school to college, students of color have suffered from the effects of biased testing.
carry on
I’m not attempting to assign fault or blame, just stating what should be recognized as the obvious. A Latino baby born in a neighborhood in which Spanish is the predominate language and in which educational opportunities are comparatively diminished, for example, does not ask to face the circumstances he faces. But as I said the test requirements should not be diluted, it would be unfair to everyone concerned.
It his families and eventually his responsibility to overcome those issues. I'm likely not as intelligent as you are but, I have to overcome that if I want to be successful. In addition, a family comes to the US without the ability to speak the language maybe should have thought of that before they came. They made that choice, its not our responsibility to grade on a curve.
Oh yes, that bastion of left wing nonsense, the NEA. Lovely.The Racist Beginnings of Standardized Testing | NEA
From grade school to college, students of color have suffered from the effects of biased testing.
carry on
I’m basically agreeing with you, if it’s not coming off that way. A job has specific requirements and tests are devised to see who best qualifies, and they should not be diluted in a mistaken concept of fairness. But that does not alter the reality that some test takers have advantages over others. It is up to the disadvantaged test taker to decide how badly he wants the job and how much effort he is willing to exert to overcome his disadvantage.
That's true with absolutely everyone. Regardless of color or background. As I said earlier, you are likely more intelligent than I. It's my job to overcome it. Based on their lack of success, lower socio-economic people deciding to do drugs, kill each other, sell drugs, drop out of school, put no effort in school and their family not making it a priority you would think they'd see the issue???
Yes, yes, I’m agreeing with you. All I’m saying is there are people from neighborhoods, cultures and educational backgrounds different from ours that do not do drugs, kill others, drop out of school, etc., who want very much to live on the straight and narrow, but have hinderances in their way at every turn. It is okay to recognize that and seek remedies that do not put thumbs on their side of the scales in things like determining job requirements.
So did you. So did I. A test is a test. If you don't know the answers, learn the answers. If you can't or won't you will have issues.
Blind I buy. Color blind? Nah that's just you denying who you are.
Does this include your bigotry of low expectations for minorities?
Why don't you be really brave and admit where you fall short, then we'll all examine our conscience.
Your failure here is to acknowledge the inadequacy of the test in many cases. No one ITT is suggesting you grade on a curve. The suggestion is to minimize cultural bias in favor of optimizing on measuring relevant skills.
