The un-truth about Donald Trump

[NZ Poke]

Highly suggest pressing play on this, even just watching the first 12 minutes. (regardless of your thoughts on Trump or anyone else)

It's a methodical, fact-based breakdown (all sources provided) of how our media (left, right etc) has distorted Trump's words, and politicians etc have run with the media's distortions.

It's truly incredible stuff to see things broken down in this format (send to your friends etc and tell them to watch the first 10 minutes). Stefan Molyneux is a Libertarian Canadian Philosopher, all his videos are excellent and mind-expanding. He's not necessarily 'Pro-Trump'......he's just excellent at methodically breaking subjects down.




http://www.untruthaboutdonaldtrump.com/

 

[MegaPoke]

Looking forward to checking it out later. Thanks for sharing.

 

[AC_Exotic]

Really fascinating.

 

[NZ Poke]

Looking forward to checking it out later. Thanks for sharing.

You're going to be blown away.

Stefan Molyneux has been on Rogan's podcast twice, it's EXTREMELY good.

In the beginning of interview (6:45 min in) they talk about taxes. Great sh*t.

 

[CBradSmith]

Only watched the first 20 minutes, so far, and that's legit stuff. Trump is taking incredibly well calculated risks and spitting out victories left, right, and center.

 

[N. Pappagiorgio]

I watched the first 50 minutes and will watch the rest later. Very, very interesting. I am a Cruz guy but could easily get behind Trump. Thanks for posting.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

I watched about 40 minutes of it (so far). The guy is really good at presenting the story in a logical, organized way. That said, I didn't find anything about it fascinating or astounding. It probably cou,d be useful in persuading a few more center liberal types to reconsider their position on Trump.

Most of the astounding misrepresentations of what Trump has said in the mainstream and Huffpo type press have already been dissected and pointed out by many conservative websites that allegedly are smearing Trump.

I do think it's worthwhile viewing though.

 

[TPOKE]

I didn't watch but I'm done with Trump. His pissy, whiney, elitist, attacking, name calling, elementary play ground bullying mindset has worn completely out with me. I've waited for him to act presidential and we're at the door step of the first primary/caucus and he's a bigger ass than he was when he started. I was all in a few weeks ago. I see another Obama when it comes to blaming others or shoving it down our throats for their own screw ups. BIG EGO.

 

[JimmyBob]

I didn't watch but I'm done with Trump. His pissy, whiney, elitist, attacking, name calling, elementary play ground bullying mindset has worn completely out with me. I've waited for him to act presidential and we're at the door step of the first primary/caucus and he's a bigger ass than he was when he started. I was all in a few weeks ago. I see another Obama when it comes to blaming others or shoving it down our throats for their own screw ups. BIG EGO.

That makes two of us; I'm sick of the clown.

 

[CBradSmith]

For a guy like me, one that spends 15 or fewer minutes per week digesting "news" due to obligations, and the "news" I do take in is mainly headlines (gotta make sure the world didn't blow up while I slept) and to get a feel for the pulse of what's going on.

Why it's "fascinating" is that it really is eye-opening how egregious and comprehensive mischaracterization can be. I mean, I'm not naïve, I know that writers and organizations have agendas, but watching this shows just how extreme that can be.

It only reinforces my habit of looking more deeply at ANYTHING that I'm "told" by news or people with opinions (including this board).

I appreciated the inclusion of excerpts from his book where he discussed some of his philosophy of dealing with the media.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

His media methods are both fairly well known and obvious. Something to ponder: some elements in the media may appear to be playing into Trump's hands because they want him to be nominated. They certainly fear Rubio more as the nominee and hate Cruz and fear him if he were to become President. As of now, they both do better in a head to head, Rubio far better, against HRC than Trump does.

 

[NZ Poke]

His media methods are both fairly well known and obvious. Something to ponder: some elements in the media may appear to be playing into Trump's hands because they want him to be nominated. They certainly fear Rubio more as the nominee and hate Cruz and fear him if he were to be one President. As of now, they both do better in a head to head, Rubio far better, against HRC than Trump does.

What exactly would the corporate media 'fear' about Rubio?!

Establishment Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

What exactly would the corporate media 'fear' about Rubio?!

Establishment Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.

That he would beat Hillary mostly. And that he would turn more Hispanic voters towards the Republican side.

 

[CBradSmith]

His media methods are both fairly well known and obvious.

Marshal, depends on what your definition of "well known and obvious" is. I'm not a rube, but that a blue-printed explanation of it is in his book was not known to me. I did, however, have an understanding of what he was doing at least as far back as the "Mexican rapists" dust up, when I had to explain it to a friend who was beside himself with indignation.

If you mean that it's out there for clear consumption, okay.

That's not the point, overall, of this thread, however. I'd argue, generally, that it's about how he is taking fire from all sides through misrepresentation. Neither side of the political establishment, and consequently their surrogates and activist arms in the media, want him.

Which continues to be lost on many, and is one of 2 or 3 of his strongest "positives."

 

[CBradSmith]

What's also lost on many is that Trump has positioned himself to eat into the "mushy middle." Republicans sure as hell aren't voting for Hillary. And while Trump may currently appear to be the weakest candidate of the three Trump, Cruz, and Rubio, he'll slice off some percentage points in the middle from her, where the others won't. He'll also bring out some voters that otherwise wouldn't roll out, similar to Obama. The trade off, is that some republicans may stay home.

Trump > Hillary for middle of the road voters
Cruz < Hillary (now) for the middle of the roaders
Rubio = Hillary, possibly Rubio > Hillary

Repubs will roll out in force for Rubio, possibly Cruz. Trump, maybe not.
Leftists will roll out in force for Hillary.

In the end, if it's a close race, are the repubs that Trump may currently lose due to distaste left in the mouths of some for not being 'conservative' enough or how he presents himself going to Trump the possibility of a Hillary president to those specific voters?

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

I think it's obvious Trump is aiming for the mushy middle and also hoping to pick off a decent chunk of more conservative voters who are pissed off about Obama/Hillary/Kerry, etc. I think it's more likely that Trump and Hillary are about even amongst the mushy middle voters.

 

[AC_Exotic]

It wasn't fascinating to me in the sense that it would ever convince me to vote for Trump in the primary -- it was fascinating in the sense that it revealed the method behind his madness and how blatant the media bias has been in their response. Also fascinating that the political players were so quick to jump on board with the same accusations. It's like no one has time to pay attention.

But then again, consider the source (me), who is obviously not the smartest guy in the room.