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The Russian Hoax Has Become So Lame That Even the WaPo Admits it's 'The Story That Never Was'!

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I'm amazed that some on this board actually believed this horse crap.

And, if they didn't believe the hoax, I'm disappointed they pushed it on here in spite of their disbelief.


The Quest to Prove Collusion is Crumbling

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...ollusion-is-crumbling/?utm_term=.02bc51fb0e19

While everyone is fixated on President Trump’s unbecoming and inexplicable assault on Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the media has been trying to sneak away from the “Russian collusion” story. That’s right. For all the breathless hype, the on-air furrowed brows and the not-so-veiled hopes that this could be Watergate, Jared Kushner’s statement and testimony before Congress have made Democrats and many in the media come to the realization that the collusion they were counting on just isn’t there.

As the date of the Kushner testimony approached, the media thought it was going to advance and refresh the story. But Kushner’s clear, precise and convincing account of what really occurred during the campaign and after the election has left many of President Trump’s loudest enemies trying to quietly back out of the room unnoticed.

Cable news airtime and in-print word count dedicated to the nonexistent collusion story appear to be dwindling. Democrats and their allies in the media seem less eager to talk about it, and when they do, they say something to the effect of “but, but, but … Kushner didn’t answer every question … He wasn’t under oath … There are still more witnesses … What about this or that new gadfly?” They are stammering. And it hasn’t taken long for news producers and editors to realize that the story is fading.

There are a few showstoppers from Kushner’s testimony that make it obvious to any fair-minded, thinking person that there was no collusion with Russia. In his own words, Kushner makes it clear that his actions were innocent but, at times, misguided and ill-conceived. He plainly states he had “hardly any” contacts with Russians during the campaign and found his June 2016 meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and the infamous Russian lawyer to be an absolute “waste of time.”

Democrats and their allies in the media have exhausted themselves building a scandalous narrative surrounding the Russian lawyer meeting, but according to Kushner, the meeting was so useless that he “actually emailed an assistant from the meeting after [he] had been there for ten or so minutes and wrote ‘Can u pls call me on my cell? Need excuse to get out of meeting.”’ Maybe the collusion didn’t take very long, or maybe he realized what the lawyer had to say was a useless farce and he wanted to get on with his day.

Much to the dismay of Trump’s haters, Kushner’s account of events even further proves just how far the media has stretched the collusion story. When the campaign received an official note of congratulations from Russian President Vladimir Putin the day after the election, Kushner had to send Dimitri Simes of the Center for the National Interest an email asking for the name of the Russian ambassador so that he could reach out and confirm the message’s authenticity.

So, that’s that. If you can’t remember your handler’s name, you can’t be guilty of nefariously colluding with that person. How much collusion could Kushner have possibly done with someone whom he had so little communication with that he could not remember his name and did not know how to contact him?

Sure, there are others still in the crosshairs of the collusion-hunters, but Kushner has been the biggest target if for no other reason than he is the only one serving in the White House. Paul Manafort is a private citizen, and he departed the campaign before the general election campaign really started. Donald Trump Jr. is implicated only in the one ill-advised and now-shown-to-be-pointless encounter with a few gadflies. The media can knock itself out trying to find some left-behind paperwork or some other scrap to hang onto, but the dead end is in sight. The quest for collusion is crumbling.

With the Democrats and their allies in the media beginning to walk away from the collusion story, the single biggest thing keeping this story alive is the president’s obsession with it. No doubt the issue will continue to be irresistible to some of Trump’s haters. Some will never believe the truth, no matter what else is revealed. But if Democrats and the president’s worst enemies can begin to silently acknowledge the obvious and move on, perhaps Trump can, too. Maybe now he will see the futility of continuing to whine, tweet, moan and seethe about the whole non-affair. Maybe the president will now see that he should leave Sessions alone so that he can get on with his work. Maybe he will let special counsel Robert S. Mueller III quietly do his job and the whole “Russian collusion” affair won’t even be a footnote in the retelling of the story of the Trump campaign.
 
That is an opinion column on WaPos "PostPartisan" blog.

It's written by Ed Rogers.

Ed Rogers
PostPartisan Contributor
Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991. Rogers has been involved with numerous Republican political campaigns, including the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. In the first Bush White House, he reported to chief of staff John Sununu. In the Reagan White House, he worked in the office of political affairs.

https://www.mediamatters.org/people/ed-rogers

Either you didn't realize this and are I'll informed or you did realize it and were being duplicitous.

Keep up the cheerleading. You're doing a great job, Brownie. You're getting an investigation anyway.
 
That is an opinion column on WaPos "PostPartisan" blog.

It's written by Ed Rogers.

Ed Rogers
PostPartisan Contributor
Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991. Rogers has been involved with numerous Republican political campaigns, including the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. In the first Bush White House, he reported to chief of staff John Sununu. In the Reagan White House, he worked in the office of political affairs.

https://www.mediamatters.org/people/ed-rogers

Either you didn't realize this and are I'll informed or you did realize it and were being duplicitous.

Keep up the cheerleading. You're doing a great job, Brownie.

"You're getting an investigation anyway."

Lol...I hope so!
 
That is an opinion column on WaPos "PostPartisan" blog.

It's written by Ed Rogers.

Ed Rogers
PostPartisan Contributor
Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, and a veteran of the White House and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour in 1991. Rogers has been involved with numerous Republican political campaigns, including the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. In the first Bush White House, he reported to chief of staff John Sununu. In the Reagan White House, he worked in the office of political affairs.

https://www.mediamatters.org/people/ed-rogers

Either you didn't realize this and are I'll informed or you did realize it and were being duplicitous.

Keep up the cheerleading. You're doing a great job, Brownie. You're getting an investigation anyway.

"You're getting an investigation anyway."

This is funny. At this point in the supreme establishment fail, who really cares? As a Sooner, I hate to admit this, but the Russia thing sort of reminds me of the Thayer Evans series of Sports Illustrated stories against OSU football. Pretty much everyone, including a lot of my Sooner friends, knew these stories were bullshit and OSU emerged with a more legitimate aura with each new hit piece. To me, Trump just loves this stuff. Thrives on it, in fact.
 
"You're getting an investigation anyway."

This is funny. At this point in the supreme establishment fail, who really cares? As a Sooner, I hate to admit this, but the Russia thing sort of reminds me of the Thayer Evans series of Sports Illustrated stories against OSU football. Pretty much everyone, including a lot of my Sooner friends, knew these stories were bullshit and OSU emerged with a more legitimate aura with each new hit piece. To me, Trump just loves this stuff. Thrives on it, in fact.

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Yes, he is clearly enjoying and thriving on it. You can tell by all his whining tweets about it.
 
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"You're getting an investigation anyway."

This is funny. At this point in the supreme establishment fail, who really cares? As a Sooner, I hate to admit this, but the Russia thing sort of reminds me of the Thayer Evans series of Sports Illustrated stories against OSU football. Pretty much everyone, including a lot of my Sooner friends, knew these stories were bullshit and OSU emerged with a more legitimate aura with each new hit piece. To me, Trump just loves this stuff. Thrives on it, in fact.

SoonerRed, you're supposed to cower in fear like it's 1973 when people didn't even recognize the establishment as such and George and Mabel still listened to and actually believed Walter Cronkite.
 
And yet another thread, about the Russian collusion, started by someone who wants the investigation to go away.

"This is all a big nothing burger. Why does everyone continue to talk about it?"

Methinks thou doth protest too much.
 
NZ, I know you have a dialogue-free ethos on here, but I would like to ask three questions anyhow.

1. Everyone on the board but you seems fatigued by Russiagate. I see information on it daily and don't run over and post it. Why do you?

2. Why doesn't Biff simply cooperate and be transparent if there's nothing to hide?

3. Why did Biff's closest cohorts -- Manaforte, Flynn and Kushner -- all lie on their disclosures?

Methinks if there's nothing to it, then they wouldn't lie about it so much and keep hiding relevant financial information.
 
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SoonerRed, you're supposed to cower in fear like it's 1973 when people didn't even recognize the establishment as such and George and Mabel still listened to and actually believed Walter Cronkite.


again this will be trumps legacy

walter cronkite along with george and mabel are history
 
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walter cronkite along with george and mabel are history

I don't get the constant carping about the press. The press literally started the Spanish American war. Yellow journalism and slanted/activist press were dominant in the wigs n' britches days. Now every citizen has their own printing press x 100000000 to disseminate whatever facts they want. It's far easier to find a place on a tv screen than ever before. Like always, humans lie. Humans believe wrong. Humans communicate falsehood. FOX has been the RNC's pravda for 20 years. Now MSNBC can sell the rage -- their prime time stuff is beating fox now. Can we just STFU about media dominance and bias? Media has consolidated, but dissemination of information has exponentially increased. If anything Media influence has abated for the first time since I can remember, maybe ever.

The "liberal" media is "liberal" only in a corporate sense. They defend their corporate employers (or "overlord" in right wing parlance). If you have an issue with corporate control of media, okay, but where have you been? I've talked about that for years on here and it gets a collective yawn.
 

You're starting to get it.

Trumpies are basically exactly like Hillary Dems.....except they worship their Beloved Leader.

Buying into a rehashed John Birch Society red pill narrative spoon fed to them by a group of folks that have realized there is a market and money to be made telling Trumpies what they want to hear.

Congratulations. You guys are basically Bernie Bros.
 
You're starting to get it.

Trumpies are basically exactly like Hillary Dems.....except they worship their Beloved Leader.

Buying into a rehashed John Birch Society red pill narrative spoon fed to them by a group of folks that have realized there is a market and money to be made telling Trumpies what they want to hear.

Congratulations. You guys are basically Bernie Bros.
The hilarious thing to me is that the exact opposite is true. Hillary and Podesta and a few others devised the Russia excuse literally within 24 hours after her defeat. Democrat party leaders don't even believe it anymore but they have to keep spoon-feeding their tribal members the narrative because the inane tribal members truly believe it and half to keep being fed. And the people in the media doing the spoon feeding are nothing but Democrat Party leaders who criss-cross back and forth between journalism and Democrat Party politics. That pawns like CowboyJD believe this propaganda is absolutely hilarious to me. I think this does nothing but help substantiate the perception that the mainstream media is nothing but fake news across the country. Only a few Democrat Party Rubes believe this nonsense. It is totally Thayer Evans-like. And most people see this.
 
And yet another thread, about the Russian collusion, started by someone who wants the investigation to go away.

"This is all a big nothing burger. Why does everyone continue to talk about it?"

Methinks thou doth protest too much.
The hilarious thing to me is that the exact opposite is true. Hillary and Podesta and a few others devised the Russia excuse literally within 24 hours after her defeat. Democrat party leaders don't even believe it anymore but they have to keep spoon-feeding their tribal members the narrative because the inane tribal members truly believe it and half to keep being fed. And the people in the media doing the spoon feeding are nothing but Democrat Party leaders who criss-cross back and forth between journalism and Democrat Party politics. That pawns like CowboyJD believe this propaganda is absolutely hilarious to me. I think this does nothing but help substantiate the perception that the mainstream media is nothing but fake news across the country. Only a few Democrat Party Rubes believe this nonsense. It is totally Thayer Evans-like. And most people see this.
Right now, president Trump is literally destroying the reputation of the MSM and the Russia Hoax helps him do it. Fine by me.
 
"You're getting an investigation anyway."

This is funny. At this point in the supreme establishment fail, who really cares? As a Sooner, I hate to admit this, but the Russia thing sort of reminds me of the Thayer Evans series of Sports Illustrated stories against OSU football. Pretty much everyone, including a lot of my Sooner friends, knew these stories were bullshit and OSU emerged with a more legitimate aura with each new hit piece. To me, Trump just loves this stuff. Thrives on it, in fact.

I used this same analogy speaking offline to @ThorOdinson13 a few weeks ago. The parallels are stunning imo.

And by the way, I think you posting this analogy works better because you clearly are not an OSU cheerleader but we're able to know bs when you saw it. Not everyone who thinks Russia collusion is bs wears Trump pajamas to bed.

Again - I don't have an issue per se with an impartial investigation of EVERYONE but the breathless MSM coverage of this still as of yet non story is remarkable. For example the coverage the Anwan story is getting compared to the Russian stuff is mind boggling.
 
First time in history supporters have rallied around the POTUS. Happens every 4 years. Trump is the President for 4 (maybe 8) years. Some continue to have a difficult time knowing that she lost.
After 8 years of having president Donald Trump, I'm hoping for a president Ivanka Trump. Kind of has a nice Russian ring to it.
 
He'd have a much easier time if he didn't keep shooting himself in his own foot.
It wouldn't be as enjoyable to watch---both his misfires or the reactions from the media and establishment or posters on bulletin boards. He's been good at controlling the narrative from the beginning. It would not surprise me if some of this "foot shooting" isn't deliberate. Again, to be in control. His version of a "never let a crisis go to waste" especially one you create.
 
It wouldn't be as enjoyable to watch---both his misfires or the reactions from the media and establishment or posters on bulletin boards. He's been good at controlling the narrative from the beginning. It would not surprise me if some of this "foot shooting" isn't deliberate.
It wouldn't be as enjoyable to watch---both his misfires or the reactions from the media and establishment or posters on bulletin boards. He's been good at controlling the narrative from the beginning. It would not surprise me if some of this "foot shooting" isn't deliberate. Again, to be in control. His version of a "never let a crisis go to waste" especially one you create.
The only thing worse than having the classically imperfect human being named president Donald Trump around to expose Fake News and the corrupt Washington establishment is to not have the classically imperfect human being named president Donald Trump around to expose Fake News and the corrupt Washington establishment. I am loving every minute of it and I thank God in heaven for allowing me to live long enough to see it with my own eyes.
 
First time in history supporters have rallied around the POTUS. Happens every 4 years. Trump is the President for 4 (maybe 8) years. Some continue to have a difficult time knowing that she lost.

More admissions that Trumpies are just like any other group of political sycophants.

I like it.
 
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Right?...it's amazing how quickly Trumpies run up to claim any Trump misstep or mistake is some grand stategery. Pavlov's puppies were never that responsive.
Pavlov's dogs are the ones swallowing the narrative of the MSM as if they don't realize
I don't think he cares about an easier time.
Oh how we long for those lazy, crazy days of summer when everyone believed the mainstream media and their fake news and no one even knew such a thing existed as a corrupt establishment in Washington, D.C. This all makes me think of that line in Gone With the Wind when Scarlett and Ashley are longing for the old days on the plantation. In our case, of course, the Democrat Party and MSM Plantation.

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First time in history supporters have rallied around the POTUS. Happens every 4 years. Trump is the President for 4 (maybe 8) years. Some continue to have a difficult time knowing that she lost.
Who is this she you refer to? Sorry, please don't tell me you are trying to defend the worst President in US history by comparing him to the worst defeated candidate for the Presidency in US history.
 
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Pavlov's dogs are the ones swallowing the narrative of the MSM as if they don't realize

Oh how we long for those lazy, crazy days of summer when everyone believed the mainstream media and their fake news and no one even knew such a thing existed as a corrupt establishment in Washington DC. This all makes me think of that line in Gone With the Wind when Scarlett and Ashley are longing for the old days on the plantations. In our case, of course, the Democrat Party and MSM Plantation.

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Pavlov Dogs are also swallowing the red pill and Beloved Leader can do no wrong because he is always winning narratives.

You guys are just the other sign of the coin.
 
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Your OP to start this thread along with NZ's posts both prove that paradigm still exists in full blown effect.
I'm guessing Guns started this thread to rub your faces in it. I mean do you guys seriously believe any of this Russia hoax? If so, I find it absolutely out of this world, out of this galaxy, out of this universe unbelievable. That you guys willingly hang on to this narrative (that the upper echelons of the Democrat Party probably wishes would die, by the way) without a shrivel of evidence proves you guys must like being laughed at. I can't speak for him, but Guns is toying with your ass.
 
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I'm guessing Guns started this thread to rub your faces in it. I mean do you guys seriously believe any of this Russia hoax? If so, I find it absolutely out of this world, out of this galaxy, out of this universe unbelievable. That you guys willingly hang on to this narrative (that the upper echelons of the Democrat Party probably wishes would die, by the way) without a shrivel of evidence proves you guys must like being laughed at. I can't speak for him, but Guns is toying with your ass.

LOL.

So adorable. Trump bring a Goon and Guns to teaming up. A uniter instead of a divider.

You can read my posts if you really want to know what I believe about the Russian investigation. Careful though, it might be too nuanced, non-binary, and non-cheerleadery for you to wrap your mind around.
 
Who is this she you refer to? Sorry, please don't tell me you are trying to defend the worst President in US history by comparing him to the worst defeated candidate for the Presidency in US history.
I'm afraid this will be a tough 4-8 years for you. Hopefully the supply of pink stocking caps doesn't run out before winter.
 
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I'm afraid this will be a tough 4-8 years for you. Hopefully the supply of pink stocking caps doesn't run out before winter.


destruction of the MSM is something we all should celebrate

reading nbc story on awan you would think some dnc pantry boy got a parking ticket

no mention of awans level of access or long history of thuggery

no questioning of the endless blackmail possibilities

there's more in his arrest than will ever be gleaned from this swamp percolating russian witch hunt
 
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