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The Oklahoma Legislature

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Jun 9, 2001
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needs a kick in the ass. I don't like paying taxes any better than anyone else but people are hurting. the handicapped will not have any help, teachers deserve a raise and these baffoons sit around in OKC and refuse to work out agreements.
 
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needs a kick in the ass. I don't like paying taxes any better than anyone else but people are hurting. the handicapped will not have any help, teachers deserve a raise and these baffoons sit around in OKC and refuse to work out agreements.
How did Lee Denney remain in office all of those years? If she was an MD (instead of DVM), I would walk back out the door. I guess dogs don’t care about their own health!
 
needs a kick in the ass. I don't like paying taxes any better than anyone else but people are hurting. the handicapped will not have any help, teachers deserve a raise and these baffoons sit around in OKC and refuse to work out agreements.

Damn, you're still alive!:p Seriously, D.C. is a well-oiled machine compared to this Keystone Kops cluster-f*ck!
These clowns give new meaning to "local yokel".
 
they've been this way for decades...incompetent group who don't understand anything but how to **ck things up and keep them that way. Whatever fix they come up with will just get **cked up later on. Could do a MAPS deal for a year and take care of all of this but at the end of the year they would keep it around and **ck up all the funds with stupid crap. It's not a difficult quagmire...going to have to raise taxes to pay the way but it will just be more abuse of funds and nothing much will change. Cutting won't make it happen.
 
Hospice. I get it -- we don't "need" hospice, but they literally dont' have the heart to fund hospice services for the poor. I dont' care how tight and conservative you are, that's one that -- never mind.

This is conservative government. Enjoy it.
 
These tax increases for beer, tobacco, and oil/gas are not addressing the real issues that are causing the budget issues. The off-the-top spending that was approved outside of the appropriations process that were AWFUL deals when they were passed are killing the legislatures ability to modify the state budget to accommodate shortfalls in economic slow downs because they come from dedicated funds that say they have to be used for a specific purpose. My biggest gripe about this bill that just passed is that it throws more money at education and DHS without addressing and fixing the inefficiencies and wasteful spending in those agencies. It seems like we are throwing good money after bad money just for the optics so politicians can say they "paid teachers more."
 
needs a kick in the ass. I don't like paying taxes any better than anyone else but people are hurting. the handicapped will not have any help, teachers deserve a raise and these baffoons sit around in OKC and refuse to work out agreements.
I don't live in OK any more (been 10+ years now), but question for you. If they raised your taxes as you ask for, do you think for a minute that the extra money would actually be used to address any of the items you reference? Or would it go to flood insurance subsidies, new artwork for the capitol, and other pet projects that don't actually help the needy? I recommend you quit asking for more taxes, and tax yourself via charitable donations to agencies that do actually make a difference in the lives of those who need it.
 
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How did Lee Denney remain in office all of those years? If she was an MD (instead of DVM), I would walk back out the door. I guess dogs don’t care about their own health!
Hey now... She's a family friend. What did she do?
 
Absolutely a race to the bottom for these idiots, they won't solve problems head on with real solutions in real time, then they let the problems basically get to critical mass and their solutions suck worse then almost doing nothing at all, eventually always going for the last and worst option...raise taxes.

All these state governments would be screwed if everyone quit smoking that's for sure. At least raising the gas tax is a user tax.

They are incompetent and force people who have to live within their means to pay for their incompetence by squeezing them for more and more tax money.
 
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These tax increases for beer, tobacco, and oil/gas are not addressing the real issues that are causing the budget issues. The off-the-top spending that was approved outside of the appropriations process that were AWFUL deals when they were passed are killing the legislatures ability to modify the state budget to accommodate shortfalls in economic slow downs because they come from dedicated funds that say they have to be used for a specific purpose. My biggest gripe about this bill that just passed is that it throws more money at education and DHS without addressing and fixing the inefficiencies and wasteful spending in those agencies. It seems like we are throwing good money after bad money just for the optics so politicians can say they "paid teachers more."
Lloyd Rader (and his helicopter and it’s pad between the old Lloyd E Rader Center and Hissom) is dead. Not sure I’ve met any rich teachers or social workers of late...or in my lifetime. Okie has been dead last in the categories you want to be first and first in the categories you want to be last for much of my life.
 
Glad someone can claim her. At least she cheers for the Pokes on Saturday’s (I hope?).
Neighbor to my in laws... She was very supportive to my father in law as wife's mother suffered through Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. Then when Bob had his stroke she was there for him as we rushed east.
Vetmed grad from OSU.
She roots for both as I recall.
 
Glad someone can claim her. At least she cheers for the Pokes on Saturday’s (I hope?).

She is good people with a good heart.

She's just not real good at the whole legislating thing.
 
Neighbor to my in laws... She was very supportive to my father in law as wife's mother suffered through Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease. Then when Bob had his stroke she was there for him as we rushed east.
Vetmed grad from OSU.
She roots for both as I recall.
Sorry about your mother in law. That’s a terrible disease.
 
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It’s like they are purposely trying to get OK to surpass WV and Mississippi as the dumbest state in the country,

The redder we get, the stupidur, poorer, and smaller gubmint we have. But we don't let gubmint steal our hard earned money with taxes, so we have that going for us. Businesses don't want to move here because we're such an ignorant, poor state. And red as we can be.

I hear that they're moving the marijuana legalization question up to a June election next year instead of the November general election ballot with everything else. That way, they won't have that issue driving non-conservatives to the polls for legislative and state wide offices.
 
The redder we get, the stupidur, poorer, and smaller gubmint we have. But we don't let gubmint steal our hard earned money with taxes, so we have that going for us. Businesses don't want to move here because we're such an ignorant, poor state. And red as we can be.

I hear that they're moving the marijuana legalization question up to a June election next year instead of the November general election ballot with everything else. That way, they won't have that issue driving non-conservatives to the polls for legislative and state wide offices.

Both extremes (far left and far right) are horrible. Where I live right now (Columbus metro area) is the very definition of moderate. Basically a 50/50 Repub/Democrat split and common sense reigns. My town just passed a $240 million bond issue to renovate/rebuild all the schools. The high school will be totally rebuilt at $140 million. Good teachers get close to $100k a year. Yeah property taxes are high but l get a prep-school caliber education for my kids. I’d love to justify a move back to OK as I lived in OKC my first 26 years but I can’t. Lots of my high school/college friends feel the same way. Columbus is a contender to get the new Amazon headquarters which will bring a staggering 50,000 jobs which pay over 100k each. You think amazon will give OKC the time of the day. It’s frustrating because I’d love for OK to do well but those small-minded sh*tbags who run the state won’t let it happen.
 
Both extremes (far left and far right) are horrible. Where I live right now (Columbus metro area) is the very definition of moderate. Basically a 50/50 Repub/Democrat split and common sense reigns. My town just passed a $240 million bond issue to renovate/rebuild all the schools. The high school will be totally rebuilt at $140 million. Good teachers get close to $100k a year. Yeah property taxes are high but l get a prep-school caliber education for my kids. I’d love to justify a move back to OK as I lived in OKC my first 26 years but I can’t. Lots of my high school/college friends feel the same way. Columbus is a contender to get the new Amazon headquarters which will bring a staggering 50,000 jobs which pay over 100k each. You think amazon will give OKC the time of the day. It’s frustrating because I’d love for OK to do well but those small-minded sh*tbags who run the state won’t let it happen.

It's so amazing to hear these people brag about being pro-business, when the most successful and innovative businesses in the country wouldn't dream of coming here because of that very dynamic. You wouldn't believe the state of public education here. I was looking at an oklahoma real estate portfolio with a west coast investor the other day and he was dumbfounded at our property taxes. This is what you get when you get greedy, ignorant conservatives setting policy.
 
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It's so amazing to hear these people brag about being pro-business, when the most successful and innovative businesses in the country wouldn't dream of coming here because of that very dynamic. You wouldn't believe the state of public education here. I was looking at an oklahoma real estate portfolio with a west coast investor the other day and he was dumbfounded at our property taxes. This is what you get when you get greedy, ignorant conservatives setting policy.

As much as I abhor “progressives” and what the Democrats have become, if I lived in oklahoma I would probably vote democratic because the republicans there have become batsh*t crazy.
 
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