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The Importance Of Climate Change Skeptics

Excellent article. There's at least one poster here who claims there is no funding bias in climate change research. This will be a great article for him to read but he likely won't because it challenges the core of his climate change worldview.

Man-made climate change has become a religion to those who "believe." Those of us that are skeptics of the scientific "proof" supporting man-made climate change are literally apostates in the eyes of the believers.
 
Excellent article. There's at least one poster here who claims there is no funding bias in climate change research. This will be a great article for him to read but he likely won't because it challenges the core of his climate change worldview.

Man-made climate change has become a religion to those who "believe." Those of us that are skeptics of the scientific "proof" supporting man-made climate change are literally apostates in the eyes of the believers.

Head stuck in ass got it lol
 
Exxon did a climate change study a few decades back. They confirmed man-made climate change....but their profit motive changed their direction.

Keep buying Ponca BS tho lol.
How much money should we spend to lower the planet’s temperature? What is the ideal temp? How do we get India and China to stop polluting?

What is @CSCOTTOSUPOKES plan to reverse or even stop climate change?
 
How much money should we spend to lower the planet’s temperature? What is the ideal temp? How do we get India and China to stop polluting?

What is @CSCOTTOSUPOKES plan to reverse or even stop climate change?

More investment in renewables, but (gasp) republicans wouldn’t want that would they?
 
I’m against “investment” by the government in any and all businesses. They suck at picking winners and losers.

Fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves that republicans, specifically in this state, have coddled oil and gas with tax dollars for far too long and dismissed renewable energy sources

Oklahoma could’ve been the best source per capita for wind power nationally.
 
Fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves that republicans, specifically in this state, have coddled oil and gas with tax dollars for far too long and dismissed renewable energy sources

Oklahoma could’ve been the best source per capita for wind power nationally.
Dismissed renewables? Interesting. Tell us more Sir Fries A Lot.
 
Fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves that republicans, specifically in this state, have coddled oil and gas with tax dollars for far too long and dismissed renewable energy sources

Oklahoma could’ve been the best source per capita for wind power nationally.
I think all forms of energy should be on equal playing fields. The market will sort out which one moves forward. The government, and largely Republicans forced ethanol on us because Iowa votes for president first..and thatbwas the only reason. It is an incredibly shitty solution to move away from fossil fuels or cleaner running. If the government was really interested in clean burning fuel, they would have made huge investments in natural gas...but states that produce it don’t vote early enough.

You should read freakenomics. There is a great chapter about how the government can’t pick anything right...and how the combustion engine was deemed an environmental savior when it was created.
 
The costs of producing wind energy have steadily fallen. It is one of the cheapest energy sources available...period.
"American Electric was seeking up-front guarantees from regulators that customers would pay the costs, plus a profit..."

“Basically it commits customers to pay $4.5 billion for a new system and you don’t know how that’s going to compare over time to what power would have cost,” Kit Konolige, a New York-based analyst for Bloomberg Intelligence, said Friday. “It would have been a big increase in the rate base. When and how it would have paid off -- those are fair questions.”

"Oklahoma, which hadn’t made a final decision, found in February that American Electric had failed to prove there was an economic need for the project and it left customers shouldering too much of the risk."

“These huge projects have always been a challenge,” said Amy Grace, a New York-based analyst at Bloomberg New Energy Finance. “It’s hard when you’re competing on economics with some of the cheapest wholesale power prices in the world.”

Tell us more...
 
Cell towers and masts don't have spinning blades and aren't placed in the traditional flight paths of birds. Don't recall them getting an exemption from the government for their role in the deaths of endangered birds.
 
From the right wing magazine Newsweek. A few years old but still about the same.

https://www.newsweek.com/whats-true-cost-wind-power-321480

Editor's note: The author of this piece, Randy Simmons, is the Charles G. Koch professor of political economy at Utah State University. He's also a senior fellow at the Koch- and ExxonMobil-funded Property and Environment Research Center. These ties to the oil industry weren't originally disclosed in this piece.“

Right off the top lol
 
Cell towers and masts don't have spinning blades and aren't placed in the traditional flight paths of birds. Don't recall them getting an exemption from the government for their role in the deaths of endangered birds.

And another idiot lol
 
Fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves that republicans, specifically in this state, have coddled oil and gas with tax dollars for far too long and dismissed renewable energy sources

Dismissed renewables? Interesting. Tell us more Sir Fries A Lot.

So that means they've dismissed renewables? Interesting. Tell us more.

I'm still wondering when you'll provide something that indicates Oklahoma has dismissed renewables. I hope frying up shrimp doesn't take you this long.

I know you want to distract with bird conversations, but...

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Fair enough, but let’s not kid ourselves that republicans, specifically in this state, have coddled oil and gas with tax dollars for far too long and dismissed renewable energy sources

Oklahoma could’ve been the best source per capita for wind power nationally.
Except for the fact that there is no grid to actually get the power generated by wind here in OK to where supply constraints are causing rising energy prices. Wind companies got rich off building wind generators and capitalizing on favorable taxes and incentives in Oklahoma, not actually selling the power they create.
 
Except for the fact that there is no grid to actually get the power generated by wind here in OK to where supply constraints are causing rising energy prices. Wind companies got rich off building wind generators and capitalizing on favorable taxes and incentives in Oklahoma, not actually selling the power they create.

Republicans in power could do something about such a lack of a grid, but where could we get some of that money? Ooooooh how about those hundreds of millions in favorable taxes and incentives we give to oil and gas?

I’m sure that’ll happen with a Republican Oklahoma government, right?
 
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