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[CBradSmith]

Wanted to point out elements of why I'm pretty much over the National Review.

They seem demonstrate a lack of introspection lately that I've grown accustomed to seeing from the left, all while dressing up their pronouncements (as if from "on high") with verbiage that isn't on the up-and-up.

This article on TPP.

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...tnership-trump-withdraws-us-it-leaving-vacuum

They way it's written....they're no better than Rachel Maddow.

 

[Headhunter]

This is very telling statement and demonstrates how out of touch these globalists are, what planet do they live on?

"We do not share the Trump administration’s reflexive hostility toward international trade, because we do not share its belief that Americans are necessarily being victimized by overseas producers and traders who go to extraordinary lengths to bring the produce of human ingenuity and effort to Americans’ doorsteps at reasonable prices —"

 

[CBradSmith]

This is very telling statement and demonstrates how out of touch these globalists are, what planet do they live on?

"We do not share the Trump administration’s reflexive hostility toward international trade, because we do not share its belief that Americans are necessarily being victimized by overseas producers and traders who go to extraordinary lengths to bring the produce of human ingenuity and effort to Americans’ doorsteps at reasonable prices —"

That's the specific paragraph that irks me.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Isn't that Wm F. Buckley's old magazine? You're turning your back on them?

I've been saying that free trade is a time-honored republican ideal. Those conservative purists supporting Biff never made much sense to me. He took a page from old school liberalism with his trade protectionist, pro-labor views and all the old school conservatives just sat there. I've never known conservatives to favor anything over minimizing labor costs. I still haven't gotten my head around that policy change.

I remember in the 80's the conservative narrative was our trade protectionist policies allowed Detroit to grow fat and lazy and the japanese were making better cars as a result.

 

[CBradSmith]

Isn't that Wm F. Buckley's old magazine? You're turning your back on them?

I wouldn't say I'm turning my back in as much as I find they are blinded by ideological purity to the real pain points within absolute free trade. And on be clear, I consider the cost of labor to be part of the function of "free trade."

I'm all about efficiency and optimization, and in an ideal world people would be able to "retrain" for new, better jobs as their labor intensive job becomes obsolete in the U.S. due to efficiencies gained with overseas labor.

But it's not that easy, we don't live in a perfect world. We can't simply learn a new skill set in a relatively short amount of time without a loss of quality of life.

That feeling of "economic uncertainty" by many is exactly that. The psychological and anatomical limitations where economic efficiency gained no longer outweighs the cost borne by the worker.

Yeah, prices may fall $10 bucks for your latest Whirlpool, but does that outweigh 2,000 jobs lost at an average wage of 50K? 2,000 people that will now find jobs that, on average, pay 48K, and only after 3 stressful years (on average)?

Anyway, I guess I'm saying that we don't always measure the "costs" accurately.

 

[CBradSmith]

Here's another article I took EXTREME issue with. And this is a writer that I generally love reading.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.mar...dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

I wouldn't say I'm turning my back in as much as I find they are blinded by ideological purity to the real pain points within absolute free trade. And on be clear, I consider the cost of labor to be part of the function of "free trade."

I'm all about efficiency and optimization, and in an ideal world people would be able to "retrain" for new, better jobs as their labor intensive job becomes obsolete in the U.S. due to efficiencies gained with overseas labor.

But it's not that easy, we don't live in a perfect world. We can't simply learn a new skill set in a relatively short amount of time without a loss of quality of life.

That feeling of "economic uncertainty" by many is exactly that. The psychological and anatomical limitations where economic efficiency gained no longer outweighs the cost borne by the worker.

Yeah, prices may fall $10 bucks for your latest Whirlpool, but does that outweigh 2,000 jobs lost at an average wage of 50K? 2,000 people that will now find jobs that, on average, pay 48K, and only after 3 stressful years (on average)?

Anyway, I guess I'm saying that we don't always measure the "costs" accurately.

Keep up with this "real world results outweigh theory" stuff and in a year you'll be smoking weed, DVRing Bill Maher and having unprotected sex with protest women.

@ThorOdinson13 are you watching Brad's metamorphosis?

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Keep up with this "real world results outweigh theory" stuff and in a year you'll be smoking weed, DVRing Bill Maher and having unprotected sex with protest women.

@ThorOdinson13 are you watching Brad's metamorphosis?

Lol, I'm moving the same way. Been happening as I read over the last six or months. Im no longer huge on free trade and can see value in tariffs. I know, gasp. But remember, I did state that I have realized I was an idealogue. Now I've started to realize how destructive it can be to have a nation of ideologues.


















I just heard you giggle.

 

[07pilt]

Lol, I'm moving the same way. Been happening as I read over the last six or months. Im no longer huge on free trade and can see value in tariffs. I know, gasp. But remember, I did state that I have realized I was an idealogue. Now I've started to realize how destructive it can be to have a nation of ideologues.


















I just heard you giggle.

Of all of the people whose ideology/stance is changing, your writing style is the least likely to make me want to put a drill to my head.

 

[07pilt]

Lol, I'm moving the same way. Been happening as I read over the last six or months. Im no longer huge on free trade and can see value in tariffs. I know, gasp. But remember, I did state that I have realized I was an idealogue. Now I've started to realize how destructive it can be to have a nation of ideologues.


















I just heard you giggle.

Also I am pretty positive your change isn't the result of a stroke or aneurysm.

 

[ThorOdinson13]

Of all of the people whose ideology/stance is changing, your writing style is the least likely to make me want to put a drill to my head.

Also I am pretty positive your change isn't the result of a stroke or aneurysm.

Umm, thank you?

 

[07pilt]

Umm, thank you?

Secret digs at brad smith

 

[CBradSmith]

Secret digs at brad smith

I picked up on them.

3.5/5

My writing style would flow into your safe space like warm honey if I weren't "writing" 90% of them from my phone or via voice to text.

On second thought 4/5. My style leaves something to be desired.

 

[MegaPoke]

Keep up with this "real world results outweigh theory" stuff and in a year you'll be smoking weed, DVRing Bill Maher and having unprotected sex with protest women.

@ThorOdinson13 are you watching Brad's metamorphosis?

Two out of three ain't bad

 

[imprimis]

Lol, I'm moving the same way. Been happening as I read over the last six or months. Im no longer huge on free trade and can see value in tariffs. I know, gasp. But remember, I did state that I have realized I was an idealogue. Now I've started to realize how destructive it can be to have a nation of ideologues.


















I just heard you giggle.

I believe not only in free trade but fair trade. I see nothing wrong with imposing tariffs on goods coming into the US if other countries impose tariffs on similar US goods going into their countries. Ex: Japan imposes tariffs on US cars entering Japan yet we let Japanese cars come into the US tariff free.