Super Tuesday aka Trump Tuesday
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I'll be...... I really thought Cruz wouldn't even carry his home state. Not based on anything just an obviously wrong hunch.
i don't understand how people can back Cruz. Dude is a slimy used car salesman.
Rubio called trump a 'con artist' again tonight in his speech,
That's some seriously negative sh*t to say about the presumptive nominee, in his own party, who just won a bunch of victories tonight.
If Trump actually became president, how would Rubio and Trump interact?!
That's some seriously negative sh*t to say about the presumptive nominee, in his own party, who just won a bunch of victories tonight.
If Trump actually became president, how would Rubio and Trump interact?!
You've got to be kidding me.
He does what he says he's going to do. Unusual in a world of forked tongued deal breakers.
He's a lying POS. He is now trying to insinuate that Rubio led the Gang of Eight and Trump financed it. He says Trump financed it because he donated to several of the politicians campaigns, in some cases, many years before the Gang of Eight.
The Rubio video that had the wrong subtitles and the BS with Carson in Iowa.
Again, dude is slimy.
I don't understand how anyone can back Rubio. Almost every f'in word out of his mouth is a lie. He was elected to the Senate through the backing of the Tea Party primarily based upon his position against amnesty and almost immediately turned around pushing it and partnering up with Schumer, et al. One of his biggest financial backers is a big time fast food franchisee who backs open borders. Rubio has told lie after lie about his own positions and those of others during the debates and throughout the campaign.
Most of the "slimy" things you've heard about Cruz are manufactured bullshit put forth by the Rubio campaign/Republucan establishment/media and now are being picked up by Trump's campaign.
Rubio sounded like a complete idiot just now being interviewed suggesting tonight was better for him than either Trump or Cruz.
This is exactly how he sounded, it surprised me.
And Fox News pundits were just saying Rubio and Cruz will viciously gang up on Trump again in the next debate (happening in the next week, apparently).
That's some crazy shit (doing the work for Hillary).....the math is nearly impossible to beat now.
Most of the slimy shit I've heard has come straight from Cruz' mouth. He sounds angry in his speeches, often growling while he talks. He lies his ass off and has overall very low morals when it comes to campaigning.
You've taken leave of reality. The BS with Carson was a made up story in which CNN erroneously reported Carson was quitting and a Cruz campaign operative repeated the sound bite from CNN verbatimon Twitter. Carson looked like an idiot and his campaign at the time (even more than usual ) was in complete disarray and he wanted to blame someone and, of course Trump and Rubio attempted to seize upon it. It made zero difference in the outcome. Rubio has REPEATEDLY tolld lies about Cruz during the debates.
If you got that out of my post, I no doubt understand your backing of Cruz.
Well, at this point they have little choice with the way these so called debates are set up. It will very likely not work and Trump will probably win.
Rubio campaign floated this turd of a trial balloon today:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...for-dismal-super-tuesday-220046#ixzz41gU4Ufql
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...for-dismal-super-tuesday-220046#ixzz41gU4Ufql
So you're completely comfortable in Rubio's involvement in the Gang of Eight even though that's not reflective of the Tea Party campaign he ran against Crist in Florida?
Yeh, not really a problem for me. I actually like the idea he joined a group that had an intention to solve a problem. I'm not a fan of the end result, but it wasn't going anywhere anyway.
I would much rather have a guy willing to solve problems then one that throw his toys out of the crib unless 100% of the people agree with him.
So you're saying Cruz has been a deceptive public servant and didn't keep major promises he made to his constituency?
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Of all the politicians I've seen lately, Cruz has governed more closely to his campaign promises. He got elected in Texas and the state of Texas voted big for him tonight. I want a politician to stand by his convictions, not cave in. Screw that.
One can only hope. However, I don't see either Cruz or Rubio dropping out until it's too late.
I think you are right. I also think if Cruz dropped a large portion of his following would go to Trump because of the anti-establishment sentiment. At this point Rubio is just helping Trump win the nomination. I'm sure the debate tomorrow is going to be ugly. The Democrats may just regret hoping for a Trump win. I think he'd have a better shot at beating Clinton than Cruz but Cruz has surprised me, so....
I would definitely support Cruz over Hillary, don't get me wrong there. He is just last place in my selection in the primary. I hate the tone of his voice and how he gives speeches like a Southern Baptist preacher's sermon. He has the absolute inability to find any common ground, so basically he is the Republican version of Obama. Policy-wise I'm actually probably closest to him, but I just don't like him. And like I've said previously, he is a slimy used car salesman (maybe he just comes across that way...).
If I'm going to go for someone who has somewhat equal hatred from both parties, I'd go with Trump.
If I'm going to go for someone who has somewhat equal hatred from both parties, I'd go with Trump.
We already have a "con artist" in the Oval Office. You can start with the con job called Obamacare and go from there.
When Rubio was elected to the Senate I was impressed with him. He was young, articulate and said things which appealed to many conservatives. Almost immediately he jettisoned what he said during the campaign (like many politicians) and got enamored with the inside the Beltway political class. That was evidenced by his joining the Gang of Eight. Not only did he join them, he became their de facto spokesman. Now that he is running for President he runs away from his support of amnesty and the Gang of Eight. In my 6 decades on Planet Earth I have seen many politicians display these same traits, in fact, that can be said about most current members of the Republican Party especially Paul Ryan. Rather than hold true to the statements and promises said which attracted a majority of voters in their elections, they embark on doing their donors' bidding.
When Rubio was elected to the Senate I was impressed with him. He was young, articulate and said things which appealed to many conservatives. Almost immediately he jettisoned what he said during the campaign (like many politicians) and got enamored with the inside the Beltway political class. That was evidenced by his joining the Gang of Eight. Not only did he join them, he became their de facto spokesman. Now that he is running for President he runs away from his support of amnesty and the Gang of Eight. In my 6 decades on Planet Earth I have seen many politicians display these same traits, in fact, that can be said about most current members of the Republican Party especially Paul Ryan. Rather than hold true to the statements and promises said which attracted a majority of voters in their elections, they embark on doing their donors' bidding.
Cruz pulled out a win in Alaska last night.
If this continues, none of the candidates are going to have enough delegates to secure a win. The math says we're headed towards a brokered convention, which would be very interesting.
If this continues, none of the candidates are going to have enough delegates to secure a win. The math says we're headed towards a brokered convention, which would be very interesting.
You could be right although all the remaining states are "winner take all" and not proportional states as they have been thus far. With 5 people still running and no evidence any are dropping out the votes will be diluted. One vote more than the second place candidate decidedly changes the delegate count. Securing the nomination becomes much easier.
Cruz has a record of actually getting things done in a bipartisan manner. However, he was elected to the U.S. Senate as a Washington outsider and pledging to stand for certain things and NOT go along to get along on certain things, and by and large he stuck to those principles.
Conversely, Rubio was elected with his pledge to oppose amnesty as the centerpiece of his campaign and the reason he got endorsements from the Tea Party movement (though why anyone believed him based on his track record in the FL legislature is beyond me), then very soon after arriving fell in with Schumer, Graham et al in a bill that would've granted full amnesty and was sued like a puppet by Schumer and friends. The bill was a disaster and damned well may have past without the work that Cruz and others did to raise awareness of exactly what it was and get the general public screaming at their representatives. Being able to work together with people by giving them EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT and which diametrically opposite of what you quite recently promised your constituents is a virtue?
If Cruz dropped out I have little doubt he would endorse Rubio. When Rubio drops out, I doubt seriously he'll endorse Cruz. If Rubio doesn't win FL on 3/15, his political career is probably over.
Conversely, Rubio was elected with his pledge to oppose amnesty as the centerpiece of his campaign and the reason he got endorsements from the Tea Party movement (though why anyone believed him based on his track record in the FL legislature is beyond me), then very soon after arriving fell in with Schumer, Graham et al in a bill that would've granted full amnesty and was sued like a puppet by Schumer and friends. The bill was a disaster and damned well may have past without the work that Cruz and others did to raise awareness of exactly what it was and get the general public screaming at their representatives. Being able to work together with people by giving them EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT and which diametrically opposite of what you quite recently promised your constituents is a virtue?
If Cruz dropped out I have little doubt he would endorse Rubio. When Rubio drops out, I doubt seriously he'll endorse Cruz. If Rubio doesn't win FL on 3/15, his political career is probably over.
Actually there are several more primaries/caucuses before winner take all sets in beginning 3/15, like 9 or 10 on the GOP side.
They are. It's kind of surreal to see the 'Rubio is great, Cruz is a liar' take up close.
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