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Star Wars: Imperial Assault (board game)

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So I'll fly the nerd flag for this one.

Maybe just a niche game since you also probably need to be a board game nerd to enjoy this one (BTW, if you haven't played a BG since Monopoly... Well, I don't know what to tell you, but this isn't Parker Brothers stuff).

Anyway, I resisted bringing it up because of the sticker price and the Nerd Hat I have to wear now, but this game is too much fun.

Besides that, I needed to see the Vito and Mega responses to Star Wars finally getting a good product on the serious gaming front (other than X-Wing anyway...).

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I've tried to start a conversation about modern board games on here before and gotten no bites. There are so many amazing games out there now, and the growing popularity is getting noticed. There was a story on NBC News just last week about the rise in popularity, a recent series of articles in the UK Guardian newspaper, and a couple articles on Grantland.

I haven't played this particular one yet, but a friend has it. We have a group that plays pretty regularly, and I know we are introducing this one soon. It's essentially Star Wars D&D, which yeah...that's about as high on the nerdometer as you can get.
 
Are we talking about the games that I see nerds standing up and playing around a table when I go into comic book/gaming stores? The ones that include models of the armies, ships, monsters, etc?
 
Originally posted by Been Jammin:

Are we talking about the games that I see nerds standing up and playing around a table when I go into comic book/gaming stores? The ones that include models of the armies, ships, monsters, etc?
Potentially, but I personally don't play those war games. That stuff with the model terrain and painted miniatures is a bridge too far even for me.

I'm personally talking about board games. They're just like the ones you played as a kid, only better. You can find them in all different "weights," from light family games to heavy, long, brain-burning strategy fests and everything in between. Modern board games typically lean away from heavy luck dependence, from player elimination (knocking someone out before the end of the game, thus leaving someone to just sit there while others play), and from king making (the problem where a losing player will just throw his support to someone to help them win). I think the rise in popularity is actually a sort of pushback against technology. I I love video games, but it's nice to play a game that doesn't suck with friends or family all in the same room.
 
Probably not BJ... There are, I think, some major differences between tabletop miniature war games like WarHammer 40K and even the most tactically, and combat inclined board games. Additionally, there is a hefty price tag involved getting into those games or customizable card games (CCG) like Magic.

I don't play those games, so that's about as far into them as I'll get I guess.

This particular game is definitely combat themed, but it's not as open ended as a straight miniatures game. There is a board, for instance, and most "missions" (game sessions is what I'd call it for most any other game) have round limits, which means you can get a game in in under two hours easily (most of my attempts at this one have fallen between just over one hour and just under two).

This game does have some D&D type elements to it, but is also a far simpler game to your standard role playing game. I think it's fair to call it a "dungeon crawl" style of game. Some of the D&D adventure packs fit that description. I don't play D&D, but I think those that do describe those adventure packs as entry level stuff. A true RPG requires a very thick rulebook becaise there are tons of upgrades available for different characters and stuff to consider when leveling up, etc, etc...

There is no "leveling" in this game. Instead you earn credits (money) to purchase new equipment and each (Hero) character has a class deck of right cards. Those cards contain one ability each that a hero can choose to learn with gained experience. Much more streamlined than a chapter in a book with 30 different possibilities...

Corn - I think you'll like this one. Sorry I missed your thread on modern board games. Sometimes I go weeks without looking at the nonsports board. I play this, obviously, Last Night Earth, Battlestar Galatica, Settlers of Catan and Pandemic. Glad you found a game group. Seems like we talked once a few years ago when you didn't have anyone to play with.
 
RedSon, no problem. It's been months or longer since I started those threads. And yeah, I found a good group. I've even worked with one guy in the group on a review site. We get sent new games sometimes, especially ones that are about to launch KickStsrter campaigns. It's pretty cool. We don't make any money from it at this point, but it's a nice little creative project.
 
I see its ages 14+, but could a sharp 8 year old enjoy it, or is this more of a teen/adult game? I haven't played a board game in forever but this looks awesome. I'm a Star Wars geek, not ashamed to admit it (though I don't have all the cool toys to prove it - still looking for that awesome Millennium Falcon from the early 80s I never got as a kid).
 
Duke, I believe so yes. I have played with a very sharp 7 year old that did very well. I have also played with my 5 year old daughter a few times. I had to modify it some for her, and she doesn't read much yet so I had to help her out with that also. They both loved this game though. It's components are beautiful and the miniatures are very fun for them. My daughter has also "helped" me paint some of them.
 
Been Jammin - Do you watch Big Bang Theory or did you watch Star Trek Next Generation? I ask becaise Will Wheaton ("TV's Wesley Crusher") has a regular YouTube broadcast called Tabletop where he previews games like this with "celebrity" friends. Celebrity is a bit of a loose term of course. Seth Green is probably the biggest star I've seen on his show. Also caught Garfunkel & Oates and Patrick Rothfuss though, which were big for me. You can see pretty quick in one of those how a lot of these games operate and should be able to see the difference between them and a miniatures war game like WarHammer.

Also, even though I suspect the guys that play games at your comic store are playing CCG's and true miniatures games, I suspect they also sale some games like this, and if they are a Fantasy Flight Games dealer they'd probably be happy to demo this game for you (as in let you play with someone that knows the rules already for free). My local comics store sales a few of them and is an FFG supplier. I haven't been there since this one came out, but they had X-Wing and Battlestar Galacitca on the shelf. I usually go to my local game shop (yes, these exist now!) for games though. I paid $100 (which is the MSRP) for it, but you could find it online for $70 or maybe a bit less I imagine. I like to support the locals when I can though. Most games of this nature don't cost this much, but most don't have the SW licensing fees or 30+ quality miniatures. I usually pay $40-60 for these types of games. It is not a cheap hobby by any means, but it's no more expensive than video gaming, and you actually get social interaction out of it, and occasionally you can talk girls into playing!
 
Thanks for checking it out. I just finished working on a review for a game called Vault Wars that is in the middle of its Kickstarter campaign right now. That review should go up tonight or tomorrow, but there are a bunch of other reviews and news up there right now.

http://www.indiecardboard.com
 
OK... I take it back. I can not, under any circumstance, spend more time on your game review site.

My wallet hates you almost as much as it already hated me.

I read the review on the girly expansion of the mashup game (been curious about that one since it started showing up at B&N), Tiny Epic Galaxies and Dead of Winter. Been wanting to try out Dead of Wknter for a while as it seems to be a theme/mechanics mating of two of my favorite games. That one would be a lot of fun at a Walking Dead watch party.

Maybe we should try a general board game thread in here again. I promise to be paying attention this time!

I should know this, and would if I hadn't switched e-mail addresses, but which one are you?
 
I'm Aaron Hayden. Jason does most of the updates, and I end up editing reviews mostly. When he and I can get together, we will do a back-and-forth review like the Tiny Epic Galaxies one that's on the front page now or the Vault Wars one I mentioned.

I'm glad you said you switched email addresses. I actually sent you an email a couple days ago at the old address.
 
You all have me curious so I started looking on Amazon for board games. Are games like Sheriff of Nottingham or Eldritch Horror the kind you all are talking about? I think I want to try one but don't have a clue what to look for. The Star Wars one is kind of expensive if I turn out to not care for it.
 
Some of you guys might be interested in this book. It was just published by MIT Press and seems to be generating some buzz it was written by the smartest guy I knew growing up. He confounded RedStorm Entertainment and was the game designer for Rainbow Six. He works for Sony now, I think

The Aesthetic of Play
 
Russ, yes, both of those games are the type of modern games we are talking about.

I'm not very familiar yet at all with SoN. I have an app for Eldritch Horror on my phone though (you can play it solo on an iPhone for about $4.99 I think). It is a Fantasy Flight Game associated with the Arkham Horror titles and has very Lovecraftian themes. It's a fun game. Not really my theme, but I enjoy the way the game is played quite a bit. I own a couple of other Fantasy Flight games, one of which was the one the thread was about. Everything they make is high end stuff as far as quality game components. All of their games aren't created equal as far as how much fun they are or how well they work mechanically though.

BTW, Eldritch Horror, on the iPhone, is a single player game in which you control four separate characters. The board game is probably a game for 1-4 players. Yes, 1. There are a lot of these modern board games that are fully cooperative and, as such, can be played fine solo. It is a nice option to have at times, but kind of defeats the purpose of playing a board game instead of a video game...

As far as how it works EH is quite a bit different than Imperial Assault. I'm glad Marshal brought up Rainbow Six. Imperial Assault is kind of a Rainbow Six in the Star Wars universe type of board game. It is about small unit tactics. EH is more Indiana Jonesish... As in your characters are looking through a mueseum for artifacts that might explain some supernatural phenomenon. You don't have to position your investigator tactically, but you do need to be strategic about what kind of challenges you let him/her face and when and which ones your teammates might handle better. They are similar in they are based around a team of up to 4 heroes that each have unique special abilities. I like to explain it as "everyone can break the rules to their advantage in their own special way." In IA, for instance, the sniper gets to add "Pierce" to his attack rolls, which can ignore his target's armor, and he's "Covert," which prevents the Empire from drawing line-of-sight (required to shoot him) to him outside of four spaces. The smuggler in the game always has a chance to shoot first (hahahahahaha) and can take an extra move any time she damages someone. It's been too long since I've played EH, but every character in that game has similar bonuses. Also, most games like this come with extra characters. Not sure on EH, but it seems like a LOT of them are on my app. The IA box had six, so even after you've played everything multiple times you can shake things up by using the two characters you haven't seen at all yet.
 
Marshal, thanks for the link. I have it bookmarked and would like to check his book out at some point.

Loved this quote from the synapsis... "Upton argues that play can also explain particular aspects of narrative; a play-based interpretive stance, he proposes, can help us understand the structure of books, of music, of theater, of art, and even of the process of critical engagement itself."

Also, FWIW, I really liked the Rainbow Six video game.
 
Russ, I've played both Sheriff of Nottingham and Eldritch Horror. SoN is a sort of bluffing and bribery game. It's fun if you have 4 or 5 people who are willing to go with it and ham it up a bit. It's not my particular cup of tea, but it's a pretty new game and has been very popular. Eldritch Horror I personally like a lot more. It's a cooperative game (everyone plays on the same team against the game) where you're trying to close up portals demons and monsters are using to enter this world. Like RedSon said, it's very HP Lovecraft -- Cthulhu and elder gods and all that. It's a great game, but I wouldn't recommend it as your first foray into modern board games, as it can take all night to play and can be quite complicated. The sheer amount of tokens and cards and figures would probably put a lot of people off.

If you're looking to try out some modern board games and kind of get your feet wet, my recommendations would be the following, all of which you can find via Amazon and most of which you can get, surprisingly, at Barnes & Noble or Target:

Ticket to Ride. A game about building your train routes to connect various cities. Sounds dull, but it isn't. You can play the whole thing in an hour. This was recommended to me as my first entry into modern board games, and it was a great suggestion. It's light enough that kids can play but has just enough strategy that adults aren't bored. My family enjoys this one.King of Tokyo/King of New York. These two are super popular. It's essentially king of the hill via Yahtzee with huge monsters (think Godzilla). It's bright and colorful. There isn't much strategy at all; you just throw a handful of huge dice and decide whether to pummel your opponents, heal yourself, or buy some power-up cards. King of New York is newer and slightly more complicated than King of Tokyo, but these are great games. If you have younger kids you'd like to try some of these with, I'd start with King of Tokyo. You can find that game for around $25-$30.Star Realms. This is actually a 2-player card game that only costs about $15. It's a deck-builder, which means that you start off with a deck of weak cards and use those to buy better cards, which you use to buy even better cards. In this one, you're buying ships to protect yourself and to fight your opponent. There's an iPad app that lets you play the easy AI for free (you have to pay to unlock the rest of the content, but at least you could try it out). Fun game, and cheap.Pandemic. This is one of my all-time favorite games. Like Eldritch Horror, it's a cooperative game. You play as CDC scientists working to eradicate outbreaks of diseases. It's tough to win but fun to play. People online always mention the "alpha gamer problem" with this one, i.e,, one person running roughshod over the group and telling everyone what to do, but if you play with non-jerks, that's not really a problem in my experience. Plus, the cooperative nature makes it a little easier to convince non-gamers to play since there will be someone to help them. You can find this one for $30-$35; just make sure you're getting the base game, as there are several expansions and spinoff games with Pandemic in the title. Similar, cheaper games would be Forbidden Island/Forbidden Desert, either of which you can get for under $20.
Let us know if you check one of these out. I love hearing about people getting into the hobby.
 
Pandemic is awesome.

It's really hard I think, but that's also part of what makes it great. Always feel like I did something worthwhile when I manage to save the world (ha!).

Everyone plays a different type of CDC employee in this one, which means you get your own special ways to break the rules again.
 
I appreciate the information and suggestions. Which game would you suggest for 2-3 players?
 
Star Realms only allows 2 players, so that's a good one. I'd go with Pandemic as the other choice. I've definitely heard couples talk about playing it together; since you're on the same team, it's kind of nice.
 
Just ordered Pandemic. Told my wife I ordered us a board game to play, she said "I didn't even know they still made board games."
 
At my work, about 4-5 of us play board games during our lunch hour. One guy is about to launch a game he designed on Kickstarter, and another guy is taking a class at Oklahoma Christian on "how to create your own board game." I'm by far the newbie in terms of being a "player," but as several have suggested in this thread, board game popularity is growing like crazy. I can echo similar thoughts to reviews of the "starter" games mentioned, and I'll add a few to the mix.

As a bit of background, I wanted to get games that would be enjoyable for my youngest. I've got a 12 year old a 9 year old, and I didn't want to get games that would frustrate the little guy. Even though there are recommendations for each game in terms of appropriate ages, I'd suggest reading reviews on boardgamegeek.com or view some game reviews on Youtube (I found the later very helpful--Wil Wheaton's game review series has actually been pretty informative.

Castle Panic - This is a co-op game (especially helpful for the youngest as all of us were working together to defeat the bad guys). This is a turn-based game where you are defending your castle from oncoming hoardes of orcs and goblins (some have special powers). It's a good starter game as it helps introduce strategy and planning. There's quite a bit of luck to it as well depending on which cards you turn over as well as which enemy "tokens" are revealed. I highly recommend this as a family game (adults too, of course).


Escape - Curse of the Temple - Each game (this is also a co-op game) is intended to be played in only 10 minutes. It's Indiana Jones-ish as you are all trying to escape before the temple closes the entrance and trapping everyone inside. You have to roll a certain amount of specially made dice, and although you are mostly working on your own, you will definitely need the help of others to unlock certain puzzles or to help "lift" a curse. It comes with its own theme music that is exactly 10 minutes long, and you'll have to do certain things at key points in the music. It's fun but can be difficult to finish in the alotted time without being more relaxed with some of the rules. Still--it's worth giving a shot, especially if you're wanting to play a game but don't have hours to kill.


Sentinels of the Multiverse - I bought this one but have yet to play it. It's another co-op fixed card game. Each player chooses a specific "hero" with attributes and work together to defeat the bad guy (also someone you can choose - a made scientist, menacing robot, alien warlord, etc. Each player takes turns, and you're trying to lower the bad guy's hit points. This has a comic-book flavor, and from the guys I play games with at work, they say it's highly addicting and enjoyable--especially as you can buy expansion packs to help add to the possibilities. I worry about my 9 year old's ability to keep up with it/understand the strategy involved, but again--I've got to just try it.

Hope that helps and gives you some different possibilities for game play!
 
Adman, I've played those as well, and those are some good suggestions. Sentinels of the Multiverse is another of my favorites. Anyone who is a comic fan will enjoy playing as characters that are clearly designed to mimic "real" characters like Superman, Flash, Iron Man, and Hulk, all of which have doppelgängers in the base box. The one thing I'd suggest is to try it with your older kid first before deciding whether the younger kid can handle it. Like I said, I enjoy the game, but there are a lot of little tokens and modifiers to keep up with. It's often described as a "fiddly" game, i.e., you have to fiddle with a bunch of pieces all the time.

If your friend is really thinking about launching a game on Kickstarter, I know a review website that would love to check out his game and give feedback and/or post an early review
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Just so you people know....you all suck. Just ordered Pandemic (newer edition). My love of microbiology (i know this isn't REAL microbio, but still), combined with my (and my wife's) geekiness all wrapped in one damned box.
 
Pandemic is awesome.

After you guys fail to save the world a few dozen times let me know. I don't like getting sick, and I bat about .500-.600 against that one now.

I have also played Castle Panic. That one is really a good intro for kids. It doesn't feel all that different than games a lot of us he's up aging other than being cooperative and feeling a bit more dynamic. That one is a 20-40 minute game. There is also a new game using the exact same board and system but with zombies instead of orcs and goblins. Other major difference is need to escape to win rather than simply keep out the bad guys. I forget it's name, but I saw a review of it out there somewhere (a review that somehow completely neglected to mention Castle Panic).
 
I'm going to be up at Wizards Asylum in Tulsa tonight at 6. If anyone wants to swing by and try out some of these games we are talking about without committing to buy anything, that would be a good opportunity.
 
You guys get your Pandemic games yet?

I saved the world with it last weekend. Third time on the intermediate difficulty.
 
We got it yesterday...plan on curing the world tonight or tomorrow!
 
Anybody going to the "Super! Bitcon" Sat or Sunday at the OKC fairgrounds? I knew nothing about it, but the dudes I play games with at work told me about it. It's anything from atari games to table-top games--a free (with paid admission, of course) arcade, and all sorts of vendors. It sounds like if ANYONE is interested in the board game craze, this might be a place to check out. I fully expect it to be weird as Hell (they encourage cosplay, so who knows how many doctor who's will be dressed up), but my boys and I may go. It's tomorrow & Sunday...10-6pm Sat and 11-5 on Sunday at the OKC state fair park. Visit superbitcon.com for more info. This will be my first time to go, so I'm not sure what to expect other than what I learned from their brief promotional video.
 
I would like to reiterate blbronco's statement.....you all suck.

Yes we got it and been playing, and just so you know....we're all doomed.

Haven't saved the world yet. It looks like we are doing good and then all of a sudden it all falls apart quickly.

What four diseases are you all trying to cure? We go with some oldies but goodies...Black=Black Plague (I know, not too original), Red=Scarlet Fever, Blue=Zombie Virus and Yellow=Sooneritist, its the worse.
 
I'm really glad you're enjoying Pandemic. I got a little nervous about introducing the hobby with a game that's so difficult to win at first, but I think the fact that you're playing it together means that no one gets too upset.

For what it's worth, I finally played Imperial Assault last night, and it was awesome. I've spent all morning trying to figure out any mistakes made last night, the best way to level up for the second mission, and whether the expansions are worth the cost. I'm definitely feeling hooked after one mission.
 
I have three of the blister lack add-ons currently, but haven't used them yet.

Any thoughts on how easy it was to pick up (maybe both for you being new to the game and for those that aren't as into this hobby as us in addition to being new to the game)?

What about that hefty MSRP? I think it is a tad much, but a good price in the $65-75 range I have seen online... Considering what all is in the box that is.
 
I've played Descent, the game Imperial Assault is based on (albeit only once), and other RPGs, so I knew at least a little bit about what was going on. The toughest part for me was just understanding the symbols and remembering what things can/can't be done multiple times per turn. The other players in our game hadn't ever played any kind of tabletop RPG and had a little bit of glazed eyes during the explanation, but before the end of the first mission, everyone seemed to know what they were doing. I'm sure it gets more complicated as the missions progress and tougher opponents, new skills, etc. are added.

That, however, was with all of us playing the Rebels. Whoever plays the Imperials has a much tougher time. They're almost always going to be played by the owner of the game (or at least the person who knows the game best), and there is a lot to know. There are 3 big rule books included, and you have to really understand 2 of them (the third contains the scenario descriptions) ahead of time to run the game. Teaching/running the game requires a pretty heavy investment of time before you actually get to play with anyone. That's going to turn people off, I know.

On the flipside, "investment of time" means the game might actually be worth it. My friend has a copy of the game, so take my comments on the value with a grain of salt; I didn't have to shell out anything for it. That said, if you play the campaign through exactly one time with the minimum of 12 missions, that will take around 20-25 hours of gameplay to complete (not counting preparation or explanation). At $100, that's a pretty good value, especially if you're playing with several friends. And like you said, now that you can find the game under $70 on Amazon and other online retailers, that value goes up. And of course that goes up further if you have a couple groups you can play the game with or if you tackle the campaign again with different characters.

If you get it and play twice before shoving it in your closet forever, the game's definitely not worth it, but if you're going to sit down and play on the regular with a few people, I'd say it's well worth it, especially if you get it online. I love Star Wars, RPGs, and tabletop games, so this admittedly flips a bunch of my nerd switches. But the best thing I can say is that it got me really excited about Star Wars again. I wasn't kidding when I said I've been reading all morning about the game, but I've also been looking into the new Star Wars books and just thinking about an IP that was my absolute favorite as a kid but has kind of fallen by the wayside in recent years.
 
Sooneritus. That's hilarious. I guess I haven't ever got in character enough to name the diseases... Funny, I do play Battlestar or Imperial Assault a bit in character (as in actually imagining the situation the game depicts as if it were a film or TV episode, and occasionally saying something about what my character thinks or something interesting/silly he/she might say at a particular point). It's fun to quote Adama when you're playing Adama for instance. Pandemic I guess I have, for some reason I've never thought about before, played as more of a puzzle game. Get the game pieces to where the disease pieces are and collect the right cards to meet victory conditions...

I had to go pick up a present for a baby's first birthday today. Toys 'R Us was on the way to the house. Obviously didn't need a board game for a one year old, but I was curious what they were carrying these days. They had Catan (Family version), Pandemic, Kings of Tokyo, Smashup, Carcasonne and a Game of Thrones deck building game. They also had Axis & Allies and Labyrinth. I'm not really sure if those two are "modern board games" or just good examples of the best of "conventional board games." Anyway, it was nice to see a few options there. I knew they carried Pandemic becaise that's actually where I picked up my copy.

One other game you guys might find interesting that I suspect is simple and quick (I suspect because I haven't actually played it myself, so if it sucks in real life maybe Cornichon can correct my mistake before anyone spends anything on it... I'd kind of prefer hearing it sucks actually).

Resistance (or Avalon is the same game wrapped in a different theme). It's kind of a board game version of the parlor game Mafia. You have to figure out who the Mole/Traiter/or whatever is before they can accomplish whatever sinister plot they've planned. The reason I haven't played this one is it's in the same niche as Battlestar Galacitca where the Cylon players are secret, and I am reluctant to play a game that everyone says "replaces" one of my favorite games (also based on one of my favorite TV shows). The Avalon option is set in King Arthur's Court instead of a modern government.
 
Round 1 went to the diseses....so close, yet so far away. Had three of four cured, only 1 eradicated. Almost had three, but the damded pandemic card popped up at bad times. Very very fun game. Medic is a badass in that game. Quarantine specialist...not so much!
 
I've actually never played Resistance, but I've played a similar game. There's one called Coup and one called Ultimate Werewolf that are similar and also quite popular. The good thing is, all those games are really cheap, as they're basically just a couple dozen cards. They're not really my thing because I don't like the bluffing and essentially acting that's required to really play them. But they are super popular among a certain crowd. I'd say they probably all fit into the "party game" category, where they're mostly played with a half dozen or so adults. If you're curious to see a game of it played, the link to Shut Up & Sit Down (one of my favorite board game sites) is a video of a group of people playing the game from beginning to end (about 45 minutes). It definitely seems like it would be pretty fun if your group isn't too cool to play along and act out the bluffing and accusations, but like I said, it's not my personal favorite flavor.

http://www.shutupandsitdown.com/videos/v/play-the-resistance-avalon/
 
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