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Something About The War In Ukraine We Can All Agree With

Kinda sucks heading into a war and knowing how corrupt, power and money hungry and absolutely vile your own entities are from our country - as I've said it's a global cabal not just from the US- Putin not being part of the one world govt cabal is he really the good guy in this? Idk about good guy but Russia IMO is the victim with NATO Pushing to take Ukraine and installing Biolabs all down the borders of Russia- as stated before- you either fight back if you're Vlad or let your country be swallowed up by a bunch of global sick twisted uber rich Demonic Crook F 'ers
 
At least I hope so.


I don't find Putin as insane or stupid. From his point of view, he looks at America and wonders why we do the stupid stuff we do. We invade Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, and have the CIA get involved with multiple countries around the world attempting leadership change for the benefit of the US. But when Russia does it, we bluster, and shame Russia for it's actions. I would be confused as well from his point of view. Not long after the cold war we send a crazy corrupt lady to Russia with a button that read overcharge on it. Are they taunting you or she just inept? If she is just stupid or inept is America really more powerful than Russia? Then we replace the one man who talked to Russia as an equal, but said he wanted to work with Russian but in America's best interest. with a blubbering weak, idiot who is in mental in decline, that thinks he is still in the Cold War of the 1970's. Who is in charge in the US? NATO refused to pull it's weight, so why think of them as a threat. If the US is training Ukrainian troops, and is as involved in Ukraine as your intelligence is telling you, with the last three Presidents involved as well, then the next step is adding them to NATO, something that would be a huge threat to Russia.

To me, it's not surprising what Putin has done. Do I agree with it, no, but it makes sense when you look at it from Putin's point of view. Kiev is the homeland of Russia to Russians. Why should they be separate from Russia? The fighting will be close to home with easy access to your supply lines, and you get a land connection to Crimea, which is highly important to your Navy. As long as the West stays out of the fight, it will be over with quickly.

He miscalculated the US throwing as much money into the fight as they have. We have paid for the results we are getting, but at an astronomical cost. Russia has spent about an estimated 750 billion, and the US has spent about the same, but in different indirect ways that haven't been explained to the US citizen yet. The amount of money spent on intelligence gathering alone would stagger the mind. Then add up the money sent to NATO countries to supply the Ukrainians through the back door. Increased military operations in the area from bases that where not ready to support that kind of activity. What the US government has shown you and what they actually have spent are two distinctly different things. It would not surprise me to find out we have outspent the Russians to stop the Russians. If you are Putin would you have predicted that, based on what you had seen before?

If we think we can predict his next move we will have to get into what he sees from his point of view, which is difficult looking in from the West.
 
"I spent four years as a political commentator on Russian state television (real Russian TV, not RT). I got to know many leading political figures in Russia, including members of the Duma and the Federation Council. They were generally a shockingly ignorant and thuggish bunch, Neanderthals in silk suits. And they were obsessed with one idea: Russia was, is, and always will be the geopolitical equal of the United States. Never mind that the U.S. economy is 15 times bigger or that the U.S. leads in technology, science, education, culture, and just about everything else. Russia has nuclear weapons, and can destroy the United States with the push of a button."

"Make no mistake, we are in a moment of deep peril. Nuclear war is more possible today than at any moment since the Cuban Missile Crisis. And there are no easy solutions."

Or he could be shilling for the bolsheviks with his article & warnings? Looking around at some of his articles he is not really a huge fan of the 2A & he has spent years & years on russian television. Think he could really do "accurate" commentary on russian TV without suffering some "accident" in time?

I don't agree that the world is in huge peril & you have to remember, just like the mafia (which is what he is really describing), climbing the power ladder & self preservation are diametrically opposite. He could talk to anyone who in peace could be full of shit & say the most outrageous things they believe, then take those pronouncements & extrapolate them to some type of almost Nostradamus edict.

Looking across the wholly unjustified fear of the bolshevik military, do you even know (does anyone) if their nukes haven't been pilfered or are mostly usable in today's world? There is so much corruption, who knows if silos have been neglected, or nukes have been rendered inoperable through skullduggery & thieveray?

If one thinks the world will sit back while tactical nukes fly in Ukraine, then I think you are mistaken. Never should have come to any of this though & wouldn't have but for the 1994 treaty on the word of the US, Uk & the bolsheviks that Ukraine's territorial integrity would remain solid.

I've been saving links about this cluster since last October & for grins from time to time I go back & look at articles at least 90 days old.Do you want to know how many of "the experts" have much of anything right? Almost none, I can only think of one "expert" saying something on the lines of russia will absolutely devastate the draftable male population of the DNR & LHR for fighting to take Ukraine. Guess what that has almost been accomplished.

Oh oh oh I have another expert here! https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/why_russia_wont_use_nuclear_weapons_in_ukraine.html

Or this one

Another...

I actually like this site & it writers

One of my favorites actually warms my capitalistic heart watching these dumb bastards falling off the tank before it smashed into a huge tree

If they do go to the nuke card


Yes lets keep telling the Ukrainians to cede more of their land...(another of his articles)

At least if they use nukes they can still stay on the UN security council, they have that going for them. This is just another canard by someone whos route through life has dropped him in convenient locales to comment now. If the dude said "Putin will use nukes if corners 100% sure," "if he doesn't then I'll shoot myself in the head." I'll believe him, otherwise he is jive talking.

I have no idea what is going to happen, know what I wish for & know what is happening right now, but what the end will look like no idea. I just don't see the end being nukes.

Keep sending the sheep Vlad......
 
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Agree with this Colonel
 
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I don't find Putin as insane or stupid. From his point of view, he looks at America and wonders why we do the stupid stuff we do. We invade Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, and have the CIA get involved with multiple countries around the world attempting leadership change for the benefit of the US. But when Russia does it, we bluster, and shame Russia for it's actions. I would be confused as well from his point of view. Not long after the cold war we send a crazy corrupt lady to Russia with a button that read overcharge on it. Are they taunting you or she just inept? If she is just stupid or inept is America really more powerful than Russia? Then we replace the one man who talked to Russia as an equal, but said he wanted to work with Russian but in America's best interest. with a blubbering weak, idiot who is in mental in decline, that thinks he is still in the Cold War of the 1970's. Who is in charge in the US? NATO refused to pull it's weight, so why think of them as a threat. If the US is training Ukrainian troops, and is as involved in Ukraine as your intelligence is telling you, with the last three Presidents involved as well, then the next step is adding them to NATO, something that would be a huge threat to Russia.

To me, it's not surprising what Putin has done. Do I agree with it, no, but it makes sense when you look at it from Putin's point of view. Kiev is the homeland of Russia to Russians. Why should they be separate from Russia? The fighting will be close to home with easy access to your supply lines, and you get a land connection to Crimea, which is highly important to your Navy. As long as the West stays out of the fight, it will be over with quickly.

He miscalculated the US throwing as much money into the fight as they have. We have paid for the results we are getting, but at an astronomical cost. Russia has spent about an estimated 750 billion, and the US has spent about the same, but in different indirect ways that haven't been explained to the US citizen yet. The amount of money spent on intelligence gathering alone would stagger the mind. Then add up the money sent to NATO countries to supply the Ukrainians through the back door. Increased military operations in the area from bases that where not ready to support that kind of activity. What the US government has shown you and what they actually have spent are two distinctly different things. It would not surprise me to find out we have outspent the Russians to stop the Russians. If you are Putin would you have predicted that, based on what you had seen before?

If we think we can predict his next move we will have to get into what he sees from his point of view, which is difficult looking in from the West.

This is a better summary than any pro has penned.

Thanks.
 
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"I spent four years as a political commentator on Russian state television (real Russian TV, not RT). I got to know many leading political figures in Russia, including members of the Duma and the Federation Council. They were generally a shockingly ignorant and thuggish bunch, Neanderthals in silk suits. And they were obsessed with one idea: Russia was, is, and always will be the geopolitical equal of the United States. Never mind that the U.S. economy is 15 times bigger or that the U.S. leads in technology, science, education, culture, and just about everything else. Russia has nuclear weapons, and can destroy the United States with the push of a button."

"Make no mistake, we are in a moment of deep peril. Nuclear war is more possible today than at any moment since the Cuban Missile Crisis. And there are no easy solutions."

Or he could be shilling for the bolsheviks with his article & warnings? Looking around at some of his articles he is not really a huge fan of the 2A & he has spent years & years on russian television. Think he could really do "accurate" commentary on russian TV without suffering some "accident" in time?

I don't agree that the world is in huge peril & you have to remember, just like the mafia (which is what he is really describing), climbing the power ladder & self preservation are diametrically opposite. He could talk to anyone who in peace could be full of shit & say the most outrageous things they believe, then take those pronouncements & extrapolate them to some type of almost Nostradamus edict.

Looking across the wholly unjustified fear of the bolshevik military, do you even know (does anyone) if their nukes haven't been pilfered or are mostly usable in today's world? There is so much corruption, who knows if silos have been neglected, or nukes have been rendered inoperable through skullduggery & thieveray?

If one thinks the world will sit back while tactical nukes fly in Ukraine, then I think you are mistaken. Never should have come to any of this though & wouldn't have but for the 1994 treaty on the word of the US, Uk & the bolsheviks that Ukraine's territorial integrity would remain solid.

I've been saving links about this cluster since last October & for grins from time to time I go back & look at articles at least 90 days old.Do you want to know how many of "the experts" have much of anything right? Almost none, I can only think of one "expert" saying something on the lines of russia will absolutely devastate the draftable male population of the DNR & LHR for fighting to take Ukraine. Guess what that has almost been accomplished.

Oh oh oh I have another expert here! https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/why_russia_wont_use_nuclear_weapons_in_ukraine.html

Or this one

Another...

I actually like this site & it writers

One of my favorites actually warms my capitalistic heart watching these dumb bastards falling off the tank before it smashed into a huge tree

If they do go to the nuke card


Yes lets keep telling the Ukrainians to cede more of their land...(another of his articles)

At least if they use nukes they can still stay on the UN security council, they have that going for them. This is just another canard by someone whos route through life has dropped him in convenient locales to comment now. If the dude said "Putin will use nukes if corners 100% sure," "if he doesn't then I'll shoot myself in the head." I'll believe him, otherwise he is jive talking.

I have no idea what is going to happen, know what I wish for & know what is happening right now, but what the end will look like no idea. I just don't see the end being nukes.

Keep sending the sheep Vlad......
I stand corrected, it was not something on which everyone can agree.
 
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Why the F are we even meddling there- all it is is a George Soros Puzo country with amazing military. It all started when Obama, Victoria Nulands and our sweet 3 letter agency overthrew the Ukraine leader in 2014 bc he got along with Russia- total peace back then and we couldn't handle it.

Now we want to push and poke Russia with expanding NATO into the Ukraine (which AC should Appreciate) was the agreed upon between NATO and Russia years ago- but we like to launder money, sell aborted fetal parts and have inhumane biolabs strung out accross ukraine - we are so corrupt it's not even funny- and it's not WTP- but too many brainwashed sheep who not say bad things about genocide shots, won't say anything about getting cheaters out of the WH and won't say anything about fake wars and lining the pockets of our MIC and mass murdering millions- at least speak out to change it- we just bitch a little .

It wasn't that there was a Hitler it's that the Normies are too scared or too PC to speak up - it's a shame. Hundreds of civilizations have collapsed through history- people can't fathom this one is on its last legs- at least as we know it. And we're letting a Handful of demonic uber rich POS runnit all into the ground
 
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I don't find Putin as insane or stupid. From his point of view, he looks at America and wonders why we do the stupid stuff we do. We invade Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, and have the CIA get involved with multiple countries around the world attempting leadership change for the benefit of the US. But when Russia does it, we bluster, and shame Russia for it's actions. I would be confused as well from his point of view. Not long after the cold war we send a crazy corrupt lady to Russia with a button that read overcharge on it. Are they taunting you or she just inept? If she is just stupid or inept is America really more powerful than Russia? Then we replace the one man who talked to Russia as an equal, but said he wanted to work with Russian but in America's best interest. with a blubbering weak, idiot who is in mental in decline, that thinks he is still in the Cold War of the 1970's. Who is in charge in the US? NATO refused to pull it's weight, so why think of them as a threat. If the US is training Ukrainian troops, and is as involved in Ukraine as your intelligence is telling you, with the last three Presidents involved as well, then the next step is adding them to NATO, something that would be a huge threat to Russia.

To me, it's not surprising what Putin has done. Do I agree with it, no, but it makes sense when you look at it from Putin's point of view. Kiev is the homeland of Russia to Russians. Why should they be separate from Russia? The fighting will be close to home with easy access to your supply lines, and you get a land connection to Crimea, which is highly important to your Navy. As long as the West stays out of the fight, it will be over with quickly.

He miscalculated the US throwing as much money into the fight as they have. We have paid for the results we are getting, but at an astronomical cost. Russia has spent about an estimated 750 billion, and the US has spent about the same, but in different indirect ways that haven't been explained to the US citizen yet. The amount of money spent on intelligence gathering alone would stagger the mind. Then add up the money sent to NATO countries to supply the Ukrainians through the back door. Increased military operations in the area from bases that where not ready to support that kind of activity. What the US government has shown you and what they actually have spent are two distinctly different things. It would not surprise me to find out we have outspent the Russians to stop the Russians. If you are Putin would you have predicted that, based on what you had seen before?

If we think we can predict his next move we will have to get into what he sees from his point of view, which is difficult looking in from the West.
You could save an ocean with that kind of money….
 
Takes a sick individual to white-knight for Putin and what he's done.
What has he done? Took up for his country when POS NATO ran by elite pedophiles wirh Biolabs tried to take him over?


You hate Putin bc the media told you to- there's a reason they vilify Russia- bc they don't want to be a part of their sick NWO.

Tell me just how bad he is.....now Maro also I want you to tell me the truths about Zelensky- will hang up and listen.

Your fake media is exactly that- fake but also demonic.

Now also I want you to tell me how great the death jabs are, how wonderful the NWO is, how trusting your tv and radio media are.

Other than dismissing Corn (all y'all have) I never hear how great the Nazi(admitted) Azov military is, how great are the shots,zelensky, fake media are- all y'all Normies do is dismiss and sound like your damn TVs- it's sad to watch- like the twilight zone....hey Maro how great are the face obedience diapers while we're on it?
 
At least I hope so.



Any thoughts on Russian balloters going door-to-door escorted by armed officers forcing votes for Putin’s annexation?


Did America and/or NATO cause this as well???


Carry on
 
What has he done? Took up for his country when POS NATO ran by elite pedophiles wirh Biolabs tried to take him over?


You hate Putin bc the media told you to- there's a reason they vilify Russia- bc they don't want to be a part of their sick NWO.

Tell me just how bad he is.....now Maro also I want you to tell me the truths about Zelensky- will hang up and listen.

Your fake media is exactly that- fake but also demonic.

Now also I want you to tell me how great the death jabs are, how wonderful the NWO is, how trusting your tv and radio media are.

Other than dismissing Corn (all y'all have) I never hear how great the Nazi(admitted) Azov military is, how great are the shots,zelensky, fake media are- all y'all Normies do is dismiss and sound like your damn TVs- it's sad to watch- like the twilight zone....hey Maro how great are the face obedience diapers while we're on it?
Perhaps I misunderstand what you’re trying to say about this war, but I will tell you you are in error if you think Putin is the “good” guy. The sad fact is *none* of them are good guys, Putin included.
 
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Any thoughts on Russian balloters going door-to-door escorted by armed officers forcing votes for Putin’s annexation?


Did America and/or NATO cause this as well???


Carry on
No, I have no immediate thoughts on this accusation. Do you?
 
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No, I have no immediate thoughts on this accusation. Do you?

Truly shocked you’d avoid this one haha…here’s some more background for you since you and others have m convinced yourself for a long time Crimea was Obama’s doing lol


“The process — and outcome — was reminiscent of the Kremlin's hastily staged referendum in Crimea over eight years ago, after Russian troops seized that part of Ukraine in 2014. The official outcome of that referendum, which was also denounced as a farce by international observers, was that more than 95% of voters wanted to join the Russian Federation.

Following the vote, Moscow quickly annexed Crimea. In response, the U.S., the European Union and the United Nations all rejected the Crimea referendum as illegal and sanctioned Russia.

Western leaders say the elections in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine are also illegal under international law and that they will not accept the outcome.”


Carry on
 
Perhaps I misunderstand what you’re trying to say about this war, but I will tell you you are in error if you think Putin is the “good” guy. The sad fact is *none* of them are good guys, Putin included.
Cmon Dan I've said a hundred times I'm not calling Putin good- must I say it every post?
He is taking up for his country against global NWO NATO war machine and that's IS a good thing for the world.
 
Any thoughts on Russian balloters going door-to-door escorted by armed officers forcing votes for Putin’s annexation?


Did America and/or NATO cause this as well???


Carry on
Similar to Democrat vote harvesting schemes.
 
Something the normie board needs to know is that Ukraine isn't even its own sovereign country. When the Soviet Union split
These countries were year to year and if they do not file and declare themselves a sovereign country each year they are still part of Russia- everyone talking about Russia invaded a sovereign country doesn't know their Soviet Union history very well- again the Normies listen to their
TVs and think it's the "news" lmao

All for not tho as NATO is trying to take it and take its last prize Russia for its NWO- they got the US when they did the coup on Trump.
 
Truly shocked you’d avoid this one haha…here’s some more background for you since you and others have m convinced yourself for a long time Crimea was Obama’s doing lol


“The process — and outcome — was reminiscent of the Kremlin's hastily staged referendum in Crimea over eight years ago, after Russian troops seized that part of Ukraine in 2014. The official outcome of that referendum, which was also denounced as a farce by international observers, was that more than 95% of voters wanted to join the Russian Federation.

Following the vote, Moscow quickly annexed Crimea. In response, the U.S., the European Union and the United Nations all rejected the Crimea referendum as illegal and sanctioned Russia.

Western leaders say the elections in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine are also illegal under international law and that they will not accept the outcome.”


Carry on
Saying I have no immediate thoughts on something I just heard from someone whose objectivity I question is not avoiding anything. Plus, it has not gone unnoticed that you avoided posting your own thoughts on the subject.
 
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