Some things never change
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You know, there could be Goldman people who have made fortunes who aren't money grubbing liberal democrats. There could be some who actually want to help right the country and world for something other than their self/corporate interests. I realize people of this type are rare in the Goldman/government revolving door partnership.
Dude, why are you PMSing so much. Has legislation been passed? Is he not cutting deals to help the middle class?
Read the interview with Jamie Dimon, same publication.
It's true that not all people that work for large corps are "bad." And many are quite skilled, superbly skilled.
Let's sit back, let the man take office, and see if he has these brains create some policy that advances the situation for the working and middle class.
If he doesn't, I'll be right there with you ready to Dump Trump.
Who better to dismantle the mismanagement of the country and therefore the world than someone who has been in the trenches of high finance? We've seen how academic types and career bureaucrats have performed and it wasn't impressive.
Because I'm not going to fault bush and obama for taking it up the rear from Paulson and his cronies during the great recession, label Cruz a wolf in sheeps clothing because his wife is a Wall Street insider, rail on Hillary for being a globalist shill and then sit silently when trump makes these moves. I am not the caricature syskatine thinks we all are.
Then the image of someone who has worked in a big bank working for Trump is equally as distasteful as policy that serves corporations first?
Heh, no.
I'll not interrupt your hand-wringing anymore. If his administration starts shoveling crap, I'll join you. Until then, in taking a wait and see approach.
He's earned a few months of goodwill from me.
Wow they weren't the devil when they were paying that POS Clinton hundreds of thousands for speeches (which appear to promulgate stances directly opposite her public stances) but now with some potentially be in Trumps cabinet/sphere of influence and with Trump not even in office they suddenly are evil, manipulative capitalist running dogs who are going to screw everyone.
Need to start calling the liberals "The Sky is Falling Party."
Need to start calling the liberals "The Sky is Falling Party."
Uh, wrong tense; it has fallen given the continuing Quasimodo hump spasms and irrational flailing of limbs on the left.
Her cozy relationship with them was a cornerstone of attack of the Trump campaign, but now that they are getting cozy with Trump they are people who want to set the country right for something other than corporate/self interests.
Harry is hardly a liberal.
Drain the swamp and all that.
A lot of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" shoulder shrugging in this thread.
The difference for me is the amount of money Wall Street poured into her coffers during her campaign and the near absence of money that went Trump's way. I'm uneasy about the Wall Street fat cats in the Trump cabinet, but I was a total no on Wall Street outright owning the executive office from the beginning.
Annnnnnd this isn't pretty. Might be legal, but definitely not good optics from where I'm sitting.
HHS pick Tom Price and his stock trades...
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/1...aded-health-related-stocks-while-in-congress/
HHS pick Tom Price and his stock trades...
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/1...aded-health-related-stocks-while-in-congress/
Isn't the result pretty much the same though.....extreme access to and influence with the President?
Your uneasiness is noted.
The only point is supposedly trump owes them nothing due to not receiving any campaign contributions. They probably made them secretly in equal value to trump through a laundering scam. I've been reading up on trumps ties to the Rothschilds recently.
As I go after trump over the next few years and get accused of being a liberal or pms'ng I want every post I make to end with the assumption I was never Hillary. She was the worst and I don't want trump do do anything to give that wretched movement (liberal ideology) any fuel. I want him to be the classiest and biggest success ever but I will not be giving him the benefit of the doubt on much. He is now a politician and if memory serves that usually leads to becoming corrupt. We all know he is no saint but was definitely what the repube party needed to be imploded. He is under the microscope and I would rather take up for him than bash him but he needs to be careful with his movements. He gets no honeymoon and I would hope he would want it that way.
Goldman Sachs may be a boogie man but do your research as to the tentacles and actions of this fraternity.
As I go after trump over the next few years and get accused of being a liberal or pms'ng I want every post I make to end with the assumption I was never Hillary. She was the worst and I don't want trump do do anything to give that wretched movement (liberal ideology) any fuel. I want him to be the classiest and biggest success ever but I will not be giving him the benefit of the doubt on much. He is now a politician and if memory serves that usually leads to becoming corrupt. We all know he is no saint but was definitely what the repube party needed to be imploded. He is under the microscope and I would rather take up for him than bash him but he needs to be careful with his movements. He gets no honeymoon and I would hope he would want it that way.
Goldman Sachs may be a boogie man but do your research as to the tentacles and actions of this fraternity.
Fantastic post BTW.
I don't have time to do a deep dive on Goldman Sachs, Rothschilds, and whatnot. I hope the conclusions or parallels you are drawing don't come to fruition.
Trump has perhaps the biggest opportunity for change, outside of Obama’s first 2 years in office, in recent history. Maybe moreso even than Obama, bc of the aforementioned "no strings attached."
No visible strings, at least.
Maybe I'm a romantic and believe in things larger than myself, fate, God, whatever. So that line from The Big Lebowski keeps coming to me..."But sometimes, there's a man. And I'm talking about the Don here. Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there."
So, I'm choosing to take him at his word and inclination, that he's dead set on MAGA, and that starts with an economic package (trade, regulation management, legislation) that is a boon for the working and middle class. And that he continues to brush aside the nutty culture the Libs have allowed to fester unchecked.
Again, I'll be all over his ass, betrayed as someone with hope in his intention, should he prove to be a carbon copy of every other corporate puppet shill that's held the office.
Maybe so. From my perspective, Trump has at least some degree of transparency naming them to his cabinet.Isn't the result pretty much the same though.....extreme access to and influence with the President?
Your uneasiness is noted.
Much better than Hillary and her public and private positions. She gobbled up tons of Wall Street meat and then expected us to believe that the piles of greasy crap coming from her butt were actually delicious cupcakes.
I'm going to remain optimistic and see what he actually does.
Fair enough.
I'm a cynic by nature. Expect the worst and pleasantly surprised when the worst doesn't happen. I start believing it when I see it. Nothing wrong with starting with hope and optimism...just not in my nature.
Solid.
The Goldman Sachs connection is a red flag for sure.
I voted for a change candidate and we will see if we got one soon enough. I think more than half the people who voted for Trump were like us - rolling the dice and voting #NeverHillary. The one upside to this is that I think there is absolutely zero room for him to be a weasel without dire consequence. The DNC may be shattered, but the establishment in general is still powerful and plotting against this administration. The only thing that can keep his head above water is the continued good will and support of the grass roots movement he became the figurehead of. His approval rating as gone up considerably since the election, so it's not as razor thin as it was, but this is very much a SHOW ME election too. He wasn't elected by team politics cheerleaders. He was elected by people who understand there is a massive culture war being fought and expect results.
I think most of us are in the same place - hopeful and supportive, but the skepticism/optimism balance is important and should absolutely be maintained - especially now. If he earns the opportunity he's been given, he will reap the rewards. If it turns out to be a disaster, he'll likely be impeached and nobody will have his back. He's got to perform, and in a way, I find that very encouraging.
Do you have a list of "weasel" moves that you are on guard for? Here is my candidate list:
- A Big Beautiful Wall that is quickly becoming a partial fence
- Lock her up - already back pedaling
- ACA - anything short of full repeal
- DACA - anything short of full repeal
- Tax Cuts - the plan as presented in the campaign
- Bring back steel, coal, and manufacturing in general - no jobs leave the US without dire consequences
- Full approval of Keystone XL
- TPP dead and buried
You box him in. Most likely purposefully.
As I know you were not a supporter, it's of no surprise that you wouldn't see/hear/accept what most supporters did.
Peter Thiel takes it from here....
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/peter-thiel-perfectly-summed-up-donald-trump-in-one-paragraph.html
If by boxing him in you mean taking what he said and expecting him to do something loosely aligned to that then yeah count me as "boxing" him in.
So you pretty much start with no real expectations... interesting. Thiel is a douche BTW. The idea that you should not hold him accountable for anything is a crock of shite.
JD I was actually eluding to The Hildabeasts private stances within those circles and her subsequent and contradictory stances in public.
Much like everyone else, not happy with the pulling into a cabinet of these entities, unless there to do something positive. We shall see though. Trump doesn't owe them anything and I seriously doubt he feels compelled to do them any favors, which should stand in stark contrast to the seemingly obvious pay for play schemes the Clintons were operating under.
I'm definitely a cynic as well....reminds me of an old HL Menken quote. He said something like "I'm such a cynic that every time I smell roses, I look around for the funeral."
Trump is on a very short leash in my mind. If he does 50% of what he said he would do he has an unlimited upside, if not he won't be re-elected.
MEGA; if you haven't seen "Why Him" you need to check it out. Funny movie and has lots of stuff from KISS. Sorry for digressing.
Much like everyone else, not happy with the pulling into a cabinet of these entities, unless there to do something positive. We shall see though. Trump doesn't owe them anything and I seriously doubt he feels compelled to do them any favors, which should stand in stark contrast to the seemingly obvious pay for play schemes the Clintons were operating under.
I'm definitely a cynic as well....reminds me of an old HL Menken quote. He said something like "I'm such a cynic that every time I smell roses, I look around for the funeral."
Trump is on a very short leash in my mind. If he does 50% of what he said he would do he has an unlimited upside, if not he won't be re-elected.
MEGA; if you haven't seen "Why Him" you need to check it out. Funny movie and has lots of stuff from KISS. Sorry for digressing.
Interesting statement given his extremely leveraged position in so many of his businesses.
