SNAP
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Not a fan of creating a bigger government bureaucracy. I think tightening up on the fraud and abuse would be more effective.
i agree with you but appreciate the effort to look at what snap is accomplishing
snap spent 7B or 10% of its budget on sugary drinks
government mandates on school nutrition have resulted in my two youngest kids bringing their lunch everyday
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/well/eat/food-stamp-snap-soda.html
I'd be okay with eliminating beverages except for milk and baby formula. Human's exist quite well on water. Same for salty snacks, those are a luxury not a necessary food.
At a glance this looks outstanding
At a glance
I’d also like to see limiting EBT purchases to fresh or frozen vegetables, meats, dairy, formula, and water.
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that’s what snap needs to be about
providing healthy staples
nobody should go hungry in this country
I really hope this is another one of those "we'll float this extreme idea then 'compromise' to get our real change through"
When I worked in Stillwater, we helped out a family from one of the former Soviet Republics when they showed up with basically nothing. When we cooked meals for them, they really didn't want to eat any pasta dishes because the Russians ruined/stole their crops one year and basically only gave them a bunch of pasta and noodles to eat. This makes me think of that.
When I worked in Stillwater, we helped out a family from one of the former Soviet Republics when they showed up with basically nothing. When we cooked meals for them, they really didn't want to eat any pasta dishes because the Russians ruined/stole their crops one year and basically only gave them a bunch of pasta and noodles to eat. This makes me think of that.
Why do we have WIC AND SNAP? Can’t we combine the 2 in more of the WIC voucher model?
My wife used to provide education services for SNAP recipients. I’d like to see more money in the education side and less to sugary drinks. Basic shit like learning how to shop. How to purchase full chickens and cut up to extend your money.
I read a study somewhere that suggested that the reason that a lot of the EBT dollars are spent on frozen and unhealthy "junk food" is because fresh fruits and vegetables are much more expensive than the unhealthy alternatives. Their dollars buy more of processed foods than fresh foods. This idea seems to address that specific fault in the system. However I have NO confidence that they wouldn't make the good idea in to a total cluster ****.
That is true for sure. But fresh foods are also more difficult to prepare and lead to more waste.
An issue I do see here is the American Dietary Guidelines
They are complete shit
By sending families all of these grains we are dooming the poor to diabetes, heart failure, increased cancer etc
What’s the future cost of that for Medicaid and Medicare services?
On the other hand
At least they aren’t going hungry
And if you’re a tin foil hat wearer
Maybe that’s the point
Our resident Democrats should be very gleeful about this. More government, less choice, just like they gave us with Obamacare.
They'd be giddy if it was an Obama proposal but it's got the Trump name on it so it's a plan from the devil. I'd be against regardless of who proposed it.
There's got to be better options than expanding a government program. If that food is available then I think I think it should be made an option for SNAP people to purchase and stretch their food dollars further. I remember those big cans of government peanut butter and blocks of cheese they used to give out and I've tasted them and didn't care for it.
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i LOVE me some gub'ment cheese. Cut up in to cubes and mixed in with macaroni and ranch dressing makes a great side dish.
I opened a cabinet in a Sec 8 apartment many years ago and found 15 cans of generic "Crisco". There were 3 skillets of grease on the stove and I literally had to hold onto the countertops to keep my feet from sliding apart.
Uh huh, that simplistic view of the world probably works for you. Who am I to try and educate you?
Did Obamacare give us less government and more choice? Or did it keep the government and choice the same? What am I missing here? This SNAP proposal sounds just like Obamacare.
Food deserts are a major part of obesity in poor people., there aren't a lot of grocery stores in poor urban areas, just gas stations. And if you don't have a car, and can't drive 5 or 10 miles to the grocery store and actually get healthy (or at least non-crap) food, that means you go down to 7-11 and get junk food.
Interesting proposal. It addresses the nutritional quality of food provided, would reduce fraud in the system, and even lower costs through wholesale vs. retail purchasing power. If done correctly, this could actually be a great change for the SNAP program. Unfortunately, I have zero faith that the government would actually do it right.
Maybe this SNAP proposal would address that, at least somewhat? Having ready access to non-crap food doesn't mean people will buy, prepare, and eat it. I do agree with you about the reality of food deserts though.
It's certainly a big change from the past. A lot of it is tied to packaged, processed foods, to decades of crap government dietary guidelines, and sometimes to lack of education in food prep and nutrition.
I always thought that was a stupid name. Remember first hearing that term in Brad Bays' class.
I agree. I do not see how Government can get into the food production and distribution business AND save money over the distribution of SNAP benefits.
As my post above implies, I agree they shouldn't get into the food production/distribution business. But I wouldn't have an issue if instead of cash outlays directly to participants, that they provided contracted services. As long as the EBT program works like cash, there will be a strong incentive and ample opportunity for abuse and fraud.
I like the idea. IF we are going to subsidize food then this seems to be a more efficient and cost effective way to accomplish that goal. Personally, I'd rather us get out of that as a government entirely. But until that happens, any efforts to reduce waste, fraud, and inefficiencies is a good thing.
I can’t imagine that the EBT program couldn’t be suitably restricted re: where it can be used and for what types of purchases. Doing that seems like it would be more efficient and effective to me.
So you think the Trump SNAP proposal is good, great, greatest ever? Terrible, yugely bad, worst ever? I didn't actually have you in mind in my initial post on this subject, but I always enjoy your hot takes. I'm 110% against this dumbass proposal, FWIW.
It really isn't a team issue to me outside of the blatant hypocrisy of the Democrats. Reading opinions of the SNAP proposal, lots of squealing about eliminating individual choice, ignoring individual needs, and handing lots of control to the government. I find that hypocritical and dissonant given the pile of shit ACA that the Democrats gave us and rigorously cling to. The SNAP proposal does the exact same thing to the SNAP program that the ACA did for health insurance. Good for one but not the other...
