I was off the board for 4 or 5 days... I got a lot to get off my chest. Play along.
The grown ups are talking now.
Any progress acting on global rather than national self interest is out the door, well at least the US participation in any such effort.
Ok I will give you a pass just seemed like you went nuts. I haven't been around much other then reply in the other thread.
I don't know if China would really listen and follow what would be put in place. I don't think the agreement Obama had that Trump quit would have really made them heal to what needs to be done. It really is a shame what is being dumped in the oceans by China. They are one of the single most violators of environmental issues with the ocean from pollution to over fishing. Hell look how they are getting around giving oil to NK. That should tell you everything China stands for. Personally I think Trump is failing when it comes to making China play by the rules.
and yet here I actually put thought and effort into talking with you in this thread. Sad.
Agree on several of your points. I don't think disengaging with the world is the answer. Can we, should we negotiate stronger more balanced agreements - yes. Does that mean you walk completely away - no. Do I think DJT has some strategic plan in play - that is laughable IMO.
Ya I don't think China will be expected to change with this issue while Trump is in office. I wonder if any future POTUS will get China under control though also. I fear only war will get their attention and then who wants to have a war that involves China. Would be a lot more destruction then what is currently going on.
On the domestic front, are you comfortable with Scott Pruitt - a lawyer by trade - leading EPA with advisory committee's stacked with scientist from the likes of Total, Phillips 66 and Southern Co.?
Who could possibly be comfortable with that? Who do you think should head up the EPA, and what persons or organizations should be giving him advice? What are our choices? A right wing lawyer getting recommendations from crony capitalist companies that stand to profit? Or a left wing radical seeking answers from people and groups seeking a socialist paradise that could never exist? Looks like a Sophie’s choice to me.
Oh I don’t know. In America there are counter balances to this type of stuff. So one guy is easier to keep in check then a whole government working against what is right. Heck they just being a person of faith can get you jailed over there. I just think at times people here like to think they are saving the world with their good deeds when in actuality you are only contributing a very very small fraction to the preservation of the environment. Also India is on the hook here as well. I just think they are more willing to work with the world for improvements.
Absolutely. Cutting our dependence on petroleum in a material way is so far down the road it’s not even funny. As a result, not only do we need companies to do the right thing and follow rules that keep people/water/earth as free of harm as possible, we need the industry to be the harbinger of environmental protection.
Yeah cause we only have those choices.... certainly no one in the GOP is prepared to find any other path.
This is a surprising comment from a person who says he hasn’t chosen a side. While I agree with you that the GOP is decidedly crony capitalist, and is unlikely to ever change (and deserves condemnation because of it), do you agree the Democrats are equally uninterested in “doing the right thing” as opposed to obtaining and maintaining power for their own statist ends?
Even though you both voted for Her, I would avoid stacking hands with toontown. Carry on....
Maybe Obama should have named somebody with some business administration experience instead of someone who shared his ideology of "somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe." Had Obama done that, maybe this embarrassing taxpayer black hole wouldn't have happened...
That's because the department was run by ideologues instead of competent professionals. Optics first! Thanks Obama!
No, but I'm not doe eyed over a Nobel winner either. I know the Nobel winner was incompetent by his record. I'm in wait and see mode on Perry.
Record, so you have something more than an out of context quote and the fraud of Solyndra to critique Secretary Moniz on? Love to hear that critique.
Maybe you should actually be familiar with Obama's DOE secretaries before you discuss them. Moniz isnt a Nobel prize winner, or any prize winner for that matter, except for maybe the dumbest looking haircut in modern history. And maybe a prize for the most naive nuclear scientist ever for his role in the Iran deal.
