See that ship sinking? It's the S.S. Comey.
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Sadly, your side of the aisle doesn't care if laws, regulations or policy were violated. All you guys care about is getting Trump no matter if it requires lies, violation of the law or anything else.
Only 1 of two reasons.
1. The have other more substantial charges to bring on FISA abuse.
2. They refuse to charge a protected member of the swamp.
DOJ has a history of not charging those within the DOJ or the FBI.
I am not surprised he was not charged, but it is extremely frustrating.
My biggest frustration is that how much of a deterrent is it to say he broke rules and he was a bad boy? Is being fired enough?
If they felt he should not serve time, why not prosecute and agree to a plea deal that allowed for probation. He deserves a felony on his record, he should not be allowed to vote at a minimum.
Same ole Washington D.C., 2 sets of rules for politicians and civilians.
I am not surprised he was not charged, but it is extremely frustrating.
My biggest frustration is that how much of a deterrent is it to say he broke rules and he was a bad boy? Is being fired enough?
If they felt he should not serve time, why not prosecute and agree to a plea deal that allowed for probation. He deserves a felony on his record, he should not be allowed to vote at a minimum.
Same ole Washington D.C., 2 sets of rules for politicians and civilians.
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The DOJ’s inspector general buries the real news
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...or-general-buries-lede/?utm_source=reddit.com
James B. Comey v. President Trump, a case of he-said, he-said | The Fact Checker
0:00 / 5:22
Since President Trump fired the FBI director, both men have shared conflicting accounts of their relationship. The Fact Checker breaks it down. (Video: Meg Kelly/Photo: Matt McClain/The Washington Post)
By Jennifer Rubin
Opinion writer
August 29 at 12:15 PM
With William P. Barr as President Trump’s attorney general, one must always keep in mind that everything out of this Justice Department will be spun, shaded or, in the case of Robert S. Mueller III’s report, misrepresented with the sole purpose of exonerating Trump of any malfeasance and attacking his political opponents. Unfortunately, the media, as it did with Barr’s letter and news conference about the Mueller report, too often accepts the spin without examining the underlying documents.
That seems to be what is happening with the newly released inspector general’s report examining former FBI director James B. Comey’s release of memos documenting Trump’s attempt to secure his personal loyalty and to go easy on Trump’s fired ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn. At the time, Trump accused Comey of breaking the law. He tweeted: “James Comey leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION to the media. That is so illegal!” Trump’s minions in the right-wing media ran with it. The problem is that it was false.
Enter Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz. His report reiterates that DOJ declined prosecution — which by Trump’s own standards is an exoneration. The DOJ could not find that Comey broke the law. The president lied when he accused Comey of violating laws protecting classified information. In a lengthy recap of the memos, Comey’s copying of the memos, his providing memos to the press via a friend and Comey’s testimony, the inspector general repeats several times that there was no prosecution.
Keep Reading
That finding is buried in the Trump-Barr cloud of spin, which looks at whether Comey, in attempting to document gross misconduct by the president of the United States, did not follow department procedure. Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance White tells me, “This debunks the myth from the right that Comey would be prosecuted for his actions. The conclusion of the report questions the ethics of his conduct, but not its legality.”
One of the memos, Memo 4, contained information covering evidence of obstruction of justice. Horowitz finds a violation of an internal regulation that requires a laborious approval process for release of this type of document in Comey’s giving copies of Memo 4 to the press and to his attorneys along with three other memos. Comey, who was already fired, chose to inform the country of the president’s actions. The inspector general did not find that the memos contained classified information (meaning, they did not), but rather that they related to the Flynn investigation and to Trump’s attempted obstruction. In fact, the memos only lightly touched on Flynn; they related to the president’s illegality in handling the Flynn matter. The inspector general nevertheless concludes Comey violated department policy by not getting a sign-off for release to the media.
Former DOJ spokesman Matthew Miller skewered Horowitz for complaining that Comey’s actions put public pressure on the FBI to investigate presidential wrongdoing. “Comey did what he did because the president was actively trying to dismantle DOJ’s normal way of operating,” Miller tweeted. “The AG and the DAG were both complicit, so Comey had nowhere else to take his concerns. It must be nice to live in the context-free world inhabited by the IG.” Miller argues that this is akin to faulting Comey "for speeding on his way to tell the village that a fire was coming. Such a narrowly-scoped view of the world.”
The headlines will dutifully report Horowitz’s finding that Comey didn’t get sign off under DOJ rules. It would be helpful if they pointed out that the IG reaffirmed Trump’s lies about illegality. It would be even better if the media, which received the Comey documents and wrote stories critical to educating the public about Trump’s obstruction, reminds readers of the context for Comey’s actions.
Washington Post opinion pieces...The DOJ’s inspector general buries the real news
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...or-general-buries-lede/?utm_source=reddit.com
James B. Comey v. President Trump, a case of he-said, he-said | The Fact Checker
0:00 / 5:22
Since President Trump fired the FBI director, both men have shared conflicting accounts of their relationship. The Fact Checker breaks it down. (Video: Meg Kelly/Photo: Matt McClain/The Washington Post)
By Jennifer Rubin
Opinion writer
August 29 at 12:15 PM
With William P. Barr as President Trump’s attorney general, one must always keep in mind that everything out of this Justice Department will be spun, shaded or, in the case of Robert S. Mueller III’s report, misrepresented with the sole purpose of exonerating Trump of any malfeasance and attacking his political opponents. Unfortunately, the media, as it did with Barr’s letter and news conference about the Mueller report, too often accepts the spin without examining the underlying documents.
That seems to be what is happening with the newly released inspector general’s report examining former FBI director James B. Comey’s release of memos documenting Trump’s attempt to secure his personal loyalty and to go easy on Trump’s fired ex-national security adviser Michael Flynn. At the time, Trump accused Comey of breaking the law. He tweeted: “James Comey leaked CLASSIFIED INFORMATION to the media. That is so illegal!” Trump’s minions in the right-wing media ran with it. The problem is that it was false.
Enter Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz. His report reiterates that DOJ declined prosecution — which by Trump’s own standards is an exoneration. The DOJ could not find that Comey broke the law. The president lied when he accused Comey of violating laws protecting classified information. In a lengthy recap of the memos, Comey’s copying of the memos, his providing memos to the press via a friend and Comey’s testimony, the inspector general repeats several times that there was no prosecution.
Keep Reading
That finding is buried in the Trump-Barr cloud of spin, which looks at whether Comey, in attempting to document gross misconduct by the president of the United States, did not follow department procedure. Former federal prosecutor Joyce Vance White tells me, “This debunks the myth from the right that Comey would be prosecuted for his actions. The conclusion of the report questions the ethics of his conduct, but not its legality.”
One of the memos, Memo 4, contained information covering evidence of obstruction of justice. Horowitz finds a violation of an internal regulation that requires a laborious approval process for release of this type of document in Comey’s giving copies of Memo 4 to the press and to his attorneys along with three other memos. Comey, who was already fired, chose to inform the country of the president’s actions. The inspector general did not find that the memos contained classified information (meaning, they did not), but rather that they related to the Flynn investigation and to Trump’s attempted obstruction. In fact, the memos only lightly touched on Flynn; they related to the president’s illegality in handling the Flynn matter. The inspector general nevertheless concludes Comey violated department policy by not getting a sign-off for release to the media.
Former DOJ spokesman Matthew Miller skewered Horowitz for complaining that Comey’s actions put public pressure on the FBI to investigate presidential wrongdoing. “Comey did what he did because the president was actively trying to dismantle DOJ’s normal way of operating,” Miller tweeted. “The AG and the DAG were both complicit, so Comey had nowhere else to take his concerns. It must be nice to live in the context-free world inhabited by the IG.” Miller argues that this is akin to faulting Comey "for speeding on his way to tell the village that a fire was coming. Such a narrowly-scoped view of the world.”
The headlines will dutifully report Horowitz’s finding that Comey didn’t get sign off under DOJ rules. It would be helpful if they pointed out that the IG reaffirmed Trump’s lies about illegality. It would be even better if the media, which received the Comey documents and wrote stories critical to educating the public about Trump’s obstruction, reminds readers of the context for Comey’s actions.
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We have clear and unquestioned evidence both Hillary & Comey broke the law yet I haven't seen you or any of the other Lonny toons screaming in anywhere close to the same manner you have in regards to Trump. I guess if you are politically connected to the right people and part of the Democrat political machine you can violate laws at will without fear of repercussions
You were literally just given evidence by Trumps own DOJs IG about how neither broke the law. Horowitz framed this so as not to upset his boss, but the bottom line is neither Comey nor Hillary broke the law.
Really? Clear and unquestioned on Comey breaking the law?
With regards to Hillary I am all aboard the lock her up train.
The IG report on his memos is just a few more greasy turds in the obviously overfull dirty diaper that is James Comey. The interesting stuff is still to come.
While it is true that Comey didn’t leak classified material to the media, he certainly leaked classified material to a friend with the intent that it be leaked to the media. And, in fact, that’s exactly what happened.
Now take a look at this federal statute:
18 U.S. Code § 371.Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States
If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offenseagainst the United States, or to defraud the United States, or anyagency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
If, however, the offense, the commission of which is the object of the conspiracy, is a misdemeanor only, the punishment for such conspiracy shall not exceed the maximum punishment provided for such misdemeanor.
I find it irritating that a former FBI director is asking for apologies on twitter when he knows the federal statutes much better than some random guy in Wyoming does.
James Comey, you sure look like a felon from here.
fbi director does what the hell he wants with gubmit memos involving potus
hopefully this ig report just that little tap tap before the boom
hopefully this ig report just that little tap tap before the boom
Comey told Trump he was not a subject of interest in the investigation but now we know for a fact Comey lied to the President of the United States. Hmmm so much for the fallacy of a non partisan investigation.
I was going off the info provided in the linked article. I didn’t read the entire IG report, but I think I located the relevant part and I agree with you.
James Comey, you look like a potential future felon from here.
Says the guy who openly still believes in RUSSIAN COLLUSION with no healthy sense of shame.
