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Looks like we will have Virginia Tech in Stillwater
this coming season.

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Virginia Tech to Wrestle Oklahoma State in Stillwater Next Season

Some big scheduling news for Oklahoma State next season as we've learned the Cowboys will wrestle Virginia Tech in Stillwater on Thursday December 19th. This is a monster dual for the newly staffed Cowboys and David Taylor in his first season as head coach. Virginia Tech finished seventh place...
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We were always about the latest putting out our schedule and the reason given was it had to be approved by the basketball coaches first due to possible scheduling conflicts at GIA. Let's see if Taylor can get it out any quicker. I waited many times to schedule trips to either Reno or Chattanooga due to the lateness and I would not expect it to be out until November. The other problem was that you might schedule Reno or the Scuffle and find that we were only sending backups to one or the other. I hope we continue going to the Scuffle as it is a really well run tournament and I prefer
Chattanooga over Reno by a long shot. (Obviously I am not much of a gambler). Scenery is also much better unless you can break away and go to Tahoe.
 
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oberebo said:
We were always about the latest putting out our schedule and the reason given was it had to be approved by the basketball coaches first due to possible scheduling conflicts at GIA. Let's see if Taylor can get it out any quicker. I waited many times to schedule trips to either Reno or Chattanooga due to the lateness and I would not expect it to be out until November. The other problem was that you might schedule Reno or the Scuffle and find that we were only sending backups to one or the other. I hope we continue going to the Scuffle as it is a really well run tournament and I prefer
Chattanooga over Reno by a long shot. (Obviously I am not much of a gambler). Scenery is also much better unless you can break away and go to Tahoe. Competition also usually better at the Scuffle.
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We were always about the latest putting out our schedule and the reason given was it had to be approved by the basketball coaches first due to possible scheduling conflicts at GIA. Let's see if Taylor can get it out any quicker. I waited many times to schedule trips to either Reno or Chattanooga due to the lateness and I would not expect it to be out until November. The other problem was that you might schedule Reno or the Scuffle and find that we were only sending backups to one or the other. I hope we continue going to the Scuffle as it is a really well run tournament and I prefer
Chattanooga over Reno by a long shot. (Obviously I am not much of a gambler). Scenery is also much better unless you can break away and go to Tahoe.
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I'd love to meet you in Chattanooga. It's only a 4 hour drive for me. It is a very well run tourney. I just wish Cael would go back but the B1G schedule starts so early in January and that is why we haven't been back. I wish the Scuffle would move the tournament to mid December.

Edit to add that I'm not into gambling either.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
I'd love to meet you in Chattanooga. It's only a 4 hour drive for me. It is a very well run tourney. I just wish Cael would go back but the B1G schedule starts so early in January and that is why we haven't been back. I wish the Scuffle would move the tournament to mid December.

Edit to add that I'm not into gambling either.
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I could be wrong, but I doubt we go to the Scuffle anytime in the near future and it isn’t because of the Big10 schedule. The possible exception would be sending a handful of freshman or redshirts.
 
Nitlion1986 said:
I could be wrong, but I doubt we go to the Scuffle anytime in the near future and it isn’t because of the Big10 schedule. The possible exception would be sending a handful of freshman or redshirts.
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I can't see how the conference schedule doesn't affect the Scuffle most years. Scuffle is New Year's and conference commonly begins around 1/5 or 1/6. I'm sure there are more reasons. It's sad. I'd love more high level wrestling events in the south. Can't grow the sport if we shun one region of the country.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
I'd love to meet you in Chattanooga. It's only a 4 hour drive for me. It is a very well run tourney. I just wish Cael would go back but the B1G schedule starts so early in January and that is why we haven't been back. I wish the Scuffle would move the tournament to mid December.

Edit to add that I'm not into gambling either.
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Mr. Earl and I have been to the Scuffle several times and if we send our starters to Chattanooga I would love to meet with you. I guess we will have to see how our schedule shakes out. I know we went to the Las Vegas open last year and Earl and I and KC Scott were there. We suffered two injuries early on which definitely hurt our standings. ( Surber and Doucet).
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
I can't see how the conference schedule doesn't affect the Scuffle most years. Scuffle is New Year's and conference commonly begins around 1/5 or 1/6. I'm sure there are more reasons. It's sad. I'd love more high level wrestling events in the south. Can't grow the sport if we shun one region of the country.
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My point is they don't do mid-season grueling tournaments anymore. Even if the Big10 schedule did not start until Sunday the 12th or Friday the 17th they are not going to the Scuffle.

As I said though, there is a possibility they send a few redshirts or freshmen.
 
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BTW for those who do not subscribe to Flo they did a breakdown of their team recently. VA Tech was 7th in NCAA last year and return a formidable lineup.
125 Eddie Ventresca
133 #13 Connor McGonagle
141 #18 Sam Latona
149 #1 Caleb Henson
157 Rafael Hipolito
165#15 Connor Brady
174 #7 Lenox Wolak
184 #7 TJ Stewart
197 #11 Andy Smith or Sonny Sasso
285 #12 Hunter Catka or Jimmy Mullen
 
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Nitlion1986 said:
My point is they don't do mid-season grueling tournaments anymore. Even if the Big10 schedule did not start until Sunday the 12th or Friday the 17th they are not going to the Scuffle.

As I said though, there is a possibility they send a few redshirts or freshmen.
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That's why I've advocated for a mid December Scuffle. Holiday tournaments really aren't that grueling imo. 3-4 bouts over two days, and a chance for coaches to see their guys hold weight for two days. I just think Cael has a secret recipe that he has developed that only involves 20-25 max bouts a year per wrestler. The conference tourney and Nationals is 8-9 bouts, so regular season is about 11-15 matches. I think in Cael's mind, 30 bouts in a season is too many.

Aaron Brooks wrestled 92 times over 5 years(incl Covid). 76 times over the last 4 years. That's 19 bouts a year average.

Carter Starocci wrestled 97 times over 5 years(incl Covid). 81 times over the last 4 years. That's 20 bouts a year average.

In Cael's 4 years, he wrestled 159 times. Double what he has his guys doing now. It will be interesting to see how much of the secret recipe DT keeps, and what he does differently. I will say that as a fan, I'd love to see more wrestling, but I can't fault the success in having healthy guys in March.
 
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Mr. Earl and I have been to the Scuffle several times and if we send our starters to Chattanooga I would love to meet with you. I guess we will have to see how our schedule shakes out. I know we went to the Las Vegas open last year and Earl and I and KC Scott were there. We suffered two injuries early on which definitely hurt our standings. ( Surber and Doucet).
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I loved the CKLV and will definitely be returning if they do it again.
 
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Pennstate1985 said:
That's why I've advocated for a mid December Scuffle. Holiday tournaments really aren't that grueling imo. 3-4 bouts over two days, and a chance for coaches to see their guys hold weight for two days. I just think Cael has a secret recipe that he has developed that only involves 20-25 max bouts a year per wrestler. The conference tourney and Nationals is 8-9 bouts, so regular season is about 11-15 matches. I think in Cael's mind, 30 bouts in a season is too many.

Aaron Brooks wrestled 92 times over 5 years(incl Covid). 76 times over the last 4 years. That's 19 bouts a year average.

Carter Starocci wrestled 97 times over 5 years(incl Covid). 81 times over the last 4 years. That's 20 bouts a year average.

In Cael's 4 years, he wrestled 159 times. Double what he has his guys doing now. It will be interesting to see how much of the secret recipe DT keeps, and what he does differently. I will say that as a fan, I'd love to see more wrestling, but I can't fault the success in having healthy guys in March.
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There is something to it! It's also how I know we get Bo and Jax...Magic Man has secret sauce to trump Cael's secret recipe.

Jax and Bo are coming to StillVegas to do something never been done before...both of them.

Jax is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er to never win a regular season match. He is only going to Wrestle opens and move into the lineup for conference and NCAA's.

Bo is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er at 4 different weights using the same method.
 
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chasepollard said:
There is something to it! It's also how I know we get Bo and Jax...Magic Man has secret sauce to trump Cael's secret recipe.

Jax and Bo are coming to StillVegas to do something never been done before...both of them.

Jax is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er to never win a regular season match. He is only going to Wrestle opens and move into the lineup for conference and NCAA's.

Bo is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er at 4 different weights using the same method.
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I'm sure if we end up coming to Stillwater for a dual in the next six years, you will get Bo and Jax in GIA. I promise you that. There is a ton of history in Stillwater that we wouldn't want any of our team to miss it, especially two of our best. ;)
 
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There is something to it! It's also how I know we get Bo and Jax...Magic Man has secret sauce to trump Cael's secret recipe.

Jax and Bo are coming to StillVegas to do something never been done before...both of them.

Jax is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er to never win a regular season match. He is only going to Wrestle opens and move into the lineup for conference and NCAA's.

Bo is going to be the 1st ever, undefeated 4 x'er at 4 different weights using the same method.
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You don’t happen to have inside info on this, do you?
 
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You don’t happen to have inside info on this, do you?
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Not really, I’ve got a few tidbits from talking to people, but I’m pretty sure we’re mostly guys that just love the sport.

I don’t think Bo knows much yet. Not sure how much a bidding war matters or if he tries to start one.

I think Jax was a heavy OSU lean, but all the changes may have created an opening.
 
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Not really, I’ve got a few tidbits from talking to people, but I’m pretty sure we’re mostly guys that just love the sport.

I don’t think Bo knows much yet. Not sure how much a bidding war matters or if he tries to start one.

I think Jax was a heavy OSU lean, but all the changes may have created an opening.
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I think OSU makes a lot of sense for Box *(Bo Jax combined tm pending) they would slide in so nicely.
 
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CowboyTanker said:
Looks like we will have Virginia Tech in Stillwater
this coming season.

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Virginia Tech to Wrestle Oklahoma State in Stillwater Next Season

Some big scheduling news for Oklahoma State next season as we've learned the Cowboys will wrestle Virginia Tech in Stillwater on Thursday December 19th. This is a monster dual for the newly staffed Cowboys and David Taylor in his first season as head coach. Virginia Tech finished seventh place...
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Revenge finally? Isn't VT the only school we have a losing dual record against?
 
Hoping it comes out soon as well. Trying to take my grandma to one last duel. Her and my grandfather were season ticket holders for close to 50 years..
Does anyone have information if the handicap seating is sold out?
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if much like previous years, we will be one of the last to publish our schedule.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
I wouldn't be surprised if much like previous years, we will be one of the last to publish our schedule.
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I wouldn't imagine anybody coming from the PSU system is going to speed the process up. Penn State usually gets the thing published around February first.
 
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I get frustrated with the schedule situation.. I would like to have time to arrange my work schedule to attend the maximum number of matches and the longer they delay letting us know the harder it is to get off. Additionally, I wouldnt have any problem going to watch the Vegas Tournament, Reno tournament, Southern Scuffle if there was some assurance that the starters were going to be there. I would be pissed to fly my wife and I to Vegas to watch the Cowboys compete and find out once we were there that its only cowboy backups..
 
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I get frustrated with the schedule situation.. I would like to have time to arrange my work schedule to attend the maximum number of matches and the longer they delay letting us know the harder it is to get off. Additionally, I wouldnt have any problem going to watch the Vegas Tournament, Reno tournament, Southern Scuffle if there was some assurance that the starters were going to be there. I would be pissed to fly my wife and I to Vegas to watch the Cowboys compete and find out once we were there that its only cowboy backups..
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CKLV is the toughest tournament in the nation outside of NCAAs. It would make zero sense to send backups. It’s an invitational and all teams bring starters. Besides, you can always get insurance on the trip and cancel if there’s any indication a few days before that it looks like you might not want to attend.

Also I looked today, none of the top teams have schedules out yet. Not saying OSU won’t be one of the last to come out but hardly anyone has released anything yet.
 
It’s also tough for us because we share a facility with basketball and must work within their schedule.
 
There are two other 2024-2025 schedule posts in the 8 most recent posts right now.

Maybe one should be pinned and the top post in it can be edited to add dates as we know them when other schools publish their schedules.

Last year the schedule was released September 29.

Of the teams on last year's schedule
Bucknell - released schedule, we aren't on it
Lehigh - released schedule, we aren't on it
OU - not released
NC State - not released
Pitt - not released
UNI - not released
ISU - not released, will be in Ames
ASU - not released
SDSU - we aren't on it
OU - not released
Iowa - not released

Dan Harris Open Sunday 11/3 @Baker University
Oregon State - not released (Possibly @Corvallis Sunday 11/17)
Wyoming @OSU Friday 11/22
Virginia Tech @OSU Thursday 12/19
WVU - not released (Possibly @GIA Sunday 1/19)
Missouri - not released (Possibly @GIA Sunday 2/2)
Big 12s - March 8-9, Tulsa
NCAAs - March 20-22, Philly


Edited to add dates @OHkie put in a different thread.
9/16/24 - moved dates around so it's more clear what schools we're waiting to see who is on the schedule and to add Va Tech date.
9/17/24 - Lehigh released their schedule and we aren't on it.
9/18/24 - Updated to add ISU dual location as they have released their home slate.
 
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