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Liberals think politics is a team sport so leave toon alone.

I would say the predominant politics on this board are center right libertarian for the most part. I don't think you are going to find the FOX news/GOP establishment fanboys you think you will.
 
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Toon.....innocent until proven guilty right?

If he "is" guilty then I don't think there is one person on the forum who wouldn't want to see him run out of town
 
Left leaning on social issues, like the majority of the country.
ahhh, the old fiscal conservative social liberal bullshit. I like how you are insinuating you are a fiscal conservative, but have thrown pile "subsidies for oil and gas".

Just own being a liberal. It's ok. We won't laugh at you any more than we already do.
 
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Toon I suspect that whatever "subsidies" your talking about are paid back 10 fold in the way of income taxes and the gas tax that everyone pays.

Glad all those green energy start ups are making it without any government tax breaks or subsidies.
 
It is in November, but since he won't win blacks, or Latinos, or Muslims, or women...yeah I'd say he's pretty much F'ed.

You don't need to wait to admit it.

Trump will win. He will have the biggest victory in an election since Reagan. Friendly wager, Trump loses and you get to pick my avatar for 30 days, Trump wins and I get to pick yours. Nothing inappropriate but it will be a fun bet.
 
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Trump will win. He will have the biggest victory in an election since Reagan. Friendly wager, Trump loses and you get to pick my avatar for 30 days, Trump wins and I get to pick yours. Nothing inappropriate but it will be a fun bet.

No thanks
 
Well you oppose the 2nd Amendmenr and think oil and gas companies get kickbacks and subsidies (as opposed to green energy companies and entities which actually do). And you ignorantly thought mist on here give two shits about Fox News and Roger Aikes, so you came over to try your hand at some lame-ass troll attempt.

That's says plenty.
 
Well you oppose the 2nd Amendmenr and think oil and gas companies get kickbacks and subsidies (as opposed to green energy companies and entities which actually do). And you ignorantly thought mist on here give two shits about Fox News and Roger Aikes, so you came over to try your hand at some lame-ass troll attempt.

That's says plenty.


Your ignorance is stunning.
 
And you can ask Jeff about my politics and my first choices, btw...might surprise you.
Ask someone else about your politics? Is this the third grade homeroom? Man up and present your own politics and be honest about them or don't. Either way, don't get "butt hurt" about discussions about your posts.

After witnessing CowboyUp and syskatine, there's nothing about folks views here that would surprise me, although you've obviously peaked some interest with your arrival/return.
 
I'm still waiting for you to teach me about oil and gas kickbacks and subsidies. As someone who has been involved with oil and gas lending for 20 years+, I'd like to learn something new.

Are Oklahoma taxpayer dollars being wasted on too many tax breaks for oil, gas companies?
POSTED 10:00 PM, MAY 16, 2016, BY ABBY BROYLES, UPDATED AT 10:31PM, MAY 16, 2016


OKLAHOMA - Right now, every agency in our state is struggling with depleted resources from public education to corrections.

Some said the reason for our economic downtown is all because of the drop in the price of oil.

Others disagree.

The catastrophic budget crisis is all around us.

School districts are being forced to go to four-day weeks.

School programs are being eliminated.

Rural hospitals are closing.

Corrections officers are eligible for food stamps.

You can find experts on both sides of the aisle who blame the drastic cuts on plummeting crude oil prices.

“The recent declines most definitely are because we’ve seen almost a 70 percent drop in the price of oil,” said Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs President Jonathan Small.

But, others disagree.

“We’re suffering through a self-inflicted wound,” said David Walters.

Former governor and Harvard Business School graduate Walters said oil and gas prices are only a piece of the puzzle.

“The unfortunate decline in oil and gas rates has exacerbated this deficit, but it’s not responsible for the deficit. It’s responsible for 300 million, 400 million at most of a 1.3 billion dollar deficit,” Walters said.

The gross production tax is by far the biggest tax on oil and gas.

It goes directly to Oklahoma’s general revenue fund.

It’s about a quarter of the state’s budget.

In 2014, that was $664 million to the state.

In 2015, that was down to $541 million.

Our legislature gives tax credits to oil and gas companies who do business here.

It's a lot of money, even when oil prices are down.

According to figures from the Oklahoma Tax Commission, the oil and gas industry got over $600 million from the state last year between tax breaks and rebates.

“We’re at a point now where we are losing more from tax breaks than what we’re bringing in from the gross production tax. That scale has tipped,” said Oklahoma Policy Institute Executive Director David Blatt.

Two years ago, the legislature changed the way we tax oil and gas production.

Now, no matter what kind of well it is, it’s taxed at 2 percent the first three years then 7 percent after that.

That’s dramatically lower than other oil producing states, like North Dakota, where oil and gas is taxed at 10-11 percent.

“Those oil and gas riches are under our feet, it isn’t going anywhere and we should charge a fair price for pulling it out of the ground,” Walters said.

Those who want to keep oil and gas taxes low point to other industries also getting tax breaks from the state.

“If people are really concerned about some sort of subsidy, wind is actually the place to look for that, because it is actually a direct check that's being cut just for turbines spinning around in the wind,” Small said.

The Quality Jobs Act also provides $100 million to companies in various industries that provide jobs in Oklahoma.

Even the Oklahoma City Thunder gets millions from that.

“I think trying to do things to either raise taxes or change the current environment would just further hurt the most vulnerable who depend on those jobs that are still providing revenue in the state,” Small said.

Oil and gas subsidies aren’t going anywhere based on current budget proposals from Governor Fallin and Republican lawmakers, with the exception of one.

The Senate just passed a bill to eliminate a rebate for wells that don’t make a profit.

“Follow the money. You get a lot of contributions from the oil and gas community. Those companies come and ask for cuts and favors within state government and, as the numbers show, they’ve received a lot of what they’ve asked for,” Walters said.

The financial forecast is dire for Oklahoma.

State officials are projecting a budget shortfall for 2017 of $1.28 billion, just under the massive $1.3 billion shortfall this year.

“It’s an amazing giveaway we’ve gone through over the last 7, 8, 10 years of reducing our revenue, and something’s gotta give. Until we change that leadership, I don’t think we’re going to see much different policy,” Walters said.

The bill that passed the Senate to eliminate the rebate for at-risk wells is now headed to the House.

If passed, that rebate alone could save our state more than $100 million next year.
 
Are Oklahoma taxpayer dollars being wasted on too many tax breaks for oil, gas companies?
POSTED 10:00 PM, MAY 16, 2016, BY ABBY BROYLES, UPDATED AT 10:31PM, MAY 16, 2016


OKLAHOMA - Right now, every agency in our state is struggling with depleted resources from public education to corrections.

Some said the reason for our economic downtown is all because of the drop in the price of oil.

Others disagree.

The catastrophic budget crisis is all around us.

School districts are being forced to go to four-day weeks.

School programs are being eliminated.

Rural hospitals are closing.

Corrections officers are eligible for food stamps.

You can find experts on both sides of the aisle who blame the drastic cuts on plummeting crude oil prices.

“The recent declines most definitely are because we’ve seen almost a 70 percent drop in the price of oil,” said Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs President Jonathan Small.

But, others disagree.

“We’re suffering through a self-inflicted wound,” said David Walters.

Former governor and Harvard Business School graduate Walters said oil and gas prices are only a piece of the puzzle.

“The unfortunate decline in oil and gas rates has exacerbated this deficit, but it’s not responsible for the deficit. It’s responsible for 300 million, 400 million at most of a 1.3 billion dollar deficit,” Walters said.

The gross production tax is by far the biggest tax on oil and gas.

It goes directly to Oklahoma’s general revenue fund.

It’s about a quarter of the state’s budget.

In 2014, that was $664 million to the state.

In 2015, that was down to $541 million.

Our legislature gives tax credits to oil and gas companies who do business here.

It's a lot of money, even when oil prices are down.

According to figures from the Oklahoma Tax Commission, the oil and gas industry got over $600 million from the state last year between tax breaks and rebates.

“We’re at a point now where we are losing more from tax breaks than what we’re bringing in from the gross production tax. That scale has tipped,” said Oklahoma Policy Institute Executive Director David Blatt.

Two years ago, the legislature changed the way we tax oil and gas production.

Now, no matter what kind of well it is, it’s taxed at 2 percent the first three years then 7 percent after that.

That’s dramatically lower than other oil producing states, like North Dakota, where oil and gas is taxed at 10-11 percent.

“Those oil and gas riches are under our feet, it isn’t going anywhere and we should charge a fair price for pulling it out of the ground,” Walters said.

Those who want to keep oil and gas taxes low point to other industries also getting tax breaks from the state.

“If people are really concerned about some sort of subsidy, wind is actually the place to look for that, because it is actually a direct check that's being cut just for turbines spinning around in the wind,” Small said.

The Quality Jobs Act also provides $100 million to companies in various industries that provide jobs in Oklahoma.

Even the Oklahoma City Thunder gets millions from that.

“I think trying to do things to either raise taxes or change the current environment would just further hurt the most vulnerable who depend on those jobs that are still providing revenue in the state,” Small said.

Oil and gas subsidies aren’t going anywhere based on current budget proposals from Governor Fallin and Republican lawmakers, with the exception of one.

The Senate just passed a bill to eliminate a rebate for wells that don’t make a profit.

“Follow the money. You get a lot of contributions from the oil and gas community. Those companies come and ask for cuts and favors within state government and, as the numbers show, they’ve received a lot of what they’ve asked for,” Walters said.

The financial forecast is dire for Oklahoma.

State officials are projecting a budget shortfall for 2017 of $1.28 billion, just under the massive $1.3 billion shortfall this year.

“It’s an amazing giveaway we’ve gone through over the last 7, 8, 10 years of reducing our revenue, and something’s gotta give. Until we change that leadership, I don’t think we’re going to see much different policy,” Walters said.

The bill that passed the Senate to eliminate the rebate for at-risk wells is now headed to the House.

If passed, that rebate alone could save our state more than $100 million next year.


Ok, that's a state of OK program that you clearly just did a Google search to uncover. Your original post referencing kickbacks and subsidies to oil companies was clearly talking about federal tax subsidies. That program is a drop in the bucket really and indicative of a general culture of special interest tax breaks for all types of corporations.
 
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Ok, that's a state of OK program that you clearly just did a Google search to uncover. Your original post referencing kickbacks and subsidies to oil companies was clearly talking about federal tax subsidies. That program is a drop in the bucket really and indicative of a general culture of special interest tax breaks for all types of corporations.


BS and you know it. Living in a state that's 50 out of 50 in teachers pay, it should bother you as a human being that oil and gas is so profitable while the rest of the state mires in debt and budget cuts. I guess that's the liberal part of me ringing out tho huh? Capitalism has to have its limitations, man.
 
Trump will win. He will have the biggest victory in an election since Reagan. Friendly wager, Trump loses and you get to pick my avatar for 30 days, Trump wins and I get to pick yours. Nothing inappropriate but it will be a fun bet.
You are exactly right. Republican voter turnout is at historic highs, even higher than when Reagan ran for office other time. Democrat voter turnout is at historic lows. The polls are close, showing that Hillary cannot shake Trump for anything. The Democrats are panicked, as well they should be. They have to get out the black vote in record numbers to have any chance of winning against Trump. That is why you are seeing all of the violent protests. They are trying to gin up support. These protests are the farthest thing from organic as anything I have ever seen. They are completely orchestrated for the sole purpose of revving up support for the Democrat nominee for president.
 
You are exactly right. Republican voter turnout is at historic highs, even higher than when Reagan ran for office other time. Democrat voter turnout is at historic lows. The polls are close, showing that Hillary cannot shake Trump for anything. The Democrats are panicked, as well they should be. They have to get out the black vote in record numbers to have any chance of winning against Trump. That is why you are seeing all of the violent protests. They are trying to gin up support. These protests are the farthest thing from organic as anything I have ever seen. They are completely orchestrated for the sole purpose of revving up support for the Democrat nominee for president.


LOL...wow. You're telling me Hillary started Black Lives Matter so people would be pissed at Trump? LOL, pass the good stuff man.....
 
My aging mind is struggling with whyTF I ever took this d-bag off ignore; NOOO PROBLEMMOO - BOOM!!!
 
My aging mind is struggling with whyTF I ever took this d-bag off ignore; NOOO PROBLEMMOO - BOOM!!!

Because you're a big pussy? LOL I've never ignored anyone no matter how much I disagree with them. Funny how conservatives always talk about the overly-sensitive liberal, yet can't back it up for sh!t haha!
 
The vast majority were either employees or prospective employees of Fox News or the RNC. Don't act like ONE makes a damn bit of difference, and you know it.

Who is Kathleen Willey? You have no clue but you speak anyway. Kind of like a toddler. A stoned bipolar sexually confused toddler.

Did you change your meds or something? Why this explosion of toontown political throw up all over the wall recently?
 
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Who is Kathleen Willey? You have no clue but you speak anyway. Kind of like a toddler. A stoned bipolar sexually confused toddler.

Did you change your meds or something? Why this explosion of toontown political throw up all over the wall recently?

Haha...someone's bitter over the night stick joke everyone likes lol
 
Because you're a big pussy? LOL I've never ignored anyone no matter how much I disagree with them. Funny how conservatives always talk about the overly-sensitive liberal, yet can't back it up for sh!t haha!


A big pussy? From the social equivalent of screech from saved by the bell who pissed down his leg when he agreed to meet Clayton for a fist fight? One of the greatest stories ever on the corral and no amount of name calling or lols or "I'm right and you know it" posts will ever fill the void that is your ineptness at being interesting.
 
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A big pussy? From the social equivalent of screech from saved by the bell who pissed down his leg when he agreed to meet Clayton for a fist fight? One of the greatest stories ever on the corral and no amount of name calling or lols or "I'm right and you know it" posts will ever fill the void that is your ineptness at being interesting.

Personal attacks because I owned you in political debate...talk about pissing down your leg lol
 
Great! How bout we get back to POLITICS now?

Does it really matter what you talk about? Maybe you could tell us more candy striper stories or how you smoke so much killer kush?

I guess there is that one thing you are good at. Virginity.
 
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