If we say it often enough maybe we’ll begin to believe it,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-admitted-it-conducts-illegal-no-knock-raids/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-admitted-it-conducts-illegal-no-knock-raids/
Repeat After Me: America Is Not A Police State
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I had an employee who spent a little over 20 years in prison for shooting a cop that entered his home under these same circumstances. The cop he shot testified he and the other officers had announced themselves, when they had not. Once he got out of prison he was visited by the cop who admitted they had not announced themselves, but said he was upset that he had been shot and felt the man deserved to be in jail for shooting him. Justice prevailed! (Blue)
They were entering his house to give him an outstanding citizen award I assume?
Betton has sued the members of the task force, along with the jurisdictions that the task force serves. In March, all of the cities and counties associated with the DEU except for the city of Myrtle Beach settled with Betton for a total of $2.75 million. His lawsuit against Myrtle Beach — and Myrtle Beach police officer Dave Belue, who served on the task force — continues.
Gee....good think there was some government, state entity for the victims to seek redress eventually coming to a settlement with several of the perpetrators and a means to get justice from the recalcitrant few.
Without that, the guys with all the guns would have had nothing and nobody to answer to.
Gee....good think there was some government, state entity for the victims to seek redress eventually coming to a settlement with several of the perpetrators and a means to get justice from the recalcitrant few.
Without that, the guys with all the guns would have had nothing and nobody to answer to.
No, he’ll no, he was fresh out of high school, selling MJ. He thought he was being very careful, never kept it or sold it in his house. His house had been broken into a couple of weeks earlier, and when the cops kicked in his door unannounced he thought it was someone trying to rob him, so he shot at the first person he saw.
But that does beg the question, doesn’t it? Is it OK for agents of the state to kick in someone’s door unannounced if they’re giving them an outstanding citizen award?
I’ve read your response a couple of times now, and I’m not real clear what your point is.
The police illegally raided the man’s house, shot him multiple times without provocation, crippled him for life, and denied their actions.
The settlement was for $2.7 million, while the estimates for the care he’ll need for the rest of his life is near $10 million.
Not one officer involved in the illegal breaking and entering, or involved in shooting the man and destroying his life has suffered a single negative consequence, not even increased/improved training so they will never do it again. Not one consequence. The taxpayers got stuck with the bill. The criminal cops have gone unscathed.
So who answered to anything? Nobody, that’s who.
You know exactly what the point is. It’s the same one you ignore, dodge, and avoid consistently.
In your anarchistic, idealistic utopia....might ultimately makes right and these perpetrators would have zero, zilch, incentive and the victim would have had zero opportunity to get any compensation from anywhere.
Your utopia fundamentally requires humans to be honorable and play by the rules...the natural laws...as you see them....they don’t. They won’t.
But the natural laws don’t seem to be honored by the agents of government, do they? They have illegally raided a man’s home (his castle), shot him multiple times, making him a cripple, perjured themselves in their reports, lied to the officials investigating, left it to the taxpayers to take the hit and pay the settlement (you know, those people they have vowed to protect and serve), and have continued on their merry way unencumbered by any punishment to themselves, free to do it again any time they want. Yeah, this way is so much better for society.
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We’re not a police state, we’re not a police state, we’re not a police state. Come on, everybody, say it with me: we’re not a police state, we’re not a police state ...
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-.../supreme-court-gives-police-green-light-shoot
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-.../supreme-court-gives-police-green-light-shoot
No, we’re definitely not a police state.
And, yet ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ms-took-it-without-charging-him-with-a-crime/
And, yet ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ms-took-it-without-charging-him-with-a-crime/
It’s worse than that. We’re a police state with militarized weaponry.
But hey, whatever it takes for the failed War on Drugs. War on Terror. War on Poverty. What will be the next unwinnable war our overlords create out of thin air? Gotta keep that gravy train flowin’.
But hey, whatever it takes for the failed War on Drugs. War on Terror. War on Poverty. What will be the next unwinnable war our overlords create out of thin air? Gotta keep that gravy train flowin’.
No, they weren’t....but the social compact of society eased the sting.
Society we have = victims got some compensation as a result of the social compact.
Society you want = those with the biggest guns do whatever they want and zero compensation as a result of a social compact. When you get down to it might makes right...always....with now higher governmental authorities to refer to in an attempt to see, redress.
I’ll take the present, flawed, system and work to improve it.
You continue to advocate for your ridiculous system that assumes and requires the cooperation, agreement, and fundamental good nature of you fellow man...you’re never gonna get that. It’s a fool’s paradise.
That’s what it all comes down to.
It’s mind-blowing that people “Resisting” Trump, seem to have forgotten what the DNC (along with their corporate media operatives) did to Bernie Sanders.
And with *zero* sympathy for Americans who donated their hard earned dollars to Bernie. Bernie got a *lot* of small donations from his supporters.
Say what you want about Bernie, but at least his support was organic, from real people (however misguided in their socialism fantasies).
We get to find out in the coming months, how many good people are left inside our government — with the OIG reports, Huber etc.
I’m quietly optimistic but my expectations are tempered.
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That’s what it all comes down to.
It’s mind-blowing that people “Resisting” Trump, seem to have forgotten what the DNC (along with their corporate media operatives) did to Bernie Sanders.
And with *zero* sympathy for Americans who donated their hard earned dollars to Bernie. Bernie got a *lot* of small donations from his supporters.
Say what you want about Bernie, but at least his support was organic, from real people (however misguided in their socialism fantasies).
We get to find out in the coming months, how many good people are left inside our government — with the OIG reports, Huber etc.
I’m quietly optimistic but my expectations are tempered.
they are desperate to pin anything of substance possible on trump
the more you see turds like brennan throwing shade in the name of the flag
the more desperate they become
You’re right — they’ve been desperate to take him down for two years.
At least going back to that first GOP primary debate when Megyn Kelly was tasked with giving Trump a question (probably from Rupert Murdoch) that would sink Trump’s candidacy, then and there.
Literally sink it at this very specific moment — and nobody else (probably on the planet) would have been able to respond effectively to this question — but Trump managed to hit a home run.
Eventually after that, Rubio’s backer started doing the Fusion GPS stuff — which eventually was handed off to Hillary’s team, and became “Russian collusion” — though the real action was happening in London.
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And the senile whore-dog crawls out from under cankle's rock; perfect, and so relevant......
