Religion of peace in Australia.

[Headhunter]

Christians in Sydney, Australia told to hide their crosses in public. These people of peace better put an end to this kind of crap because another religion of peace is one day going to grow tired of this acts of "peace" and maybe not be so peaceful in return.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/10/australian-beaten-cross-beaten-muslim-gang-shouting/

 

[07pilt]

 

[NZ Poke]

Christians in Sydney, Australia told to hide their crosses in public. These people of peace better put an end to this kind of crap because another religion of peace is one day going to grow tired of this acts of "peace" and maybe not be so peaceful in return.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/10/australian-beaten-cross-beaten-muslim-gang-shouting/

Until the last decade or two, Australia was such a nice, safe country with a very high standard of living. Outside of America, Canada and NZ, Aus was at the top of the pyramid in best places to be. (Like the other countries, plenty of open space, low population density, high IQ people, geographically isolated, western mindsets)


But they too have embraced suicidal "cultural enrichment" immigration policies and a big injection of cultural Marxism (self loathing), and are reaping the consequences.


This utopian idea that you could mix various unrelated tribal societies into a big salad bowl, mix them up, and society would "perfect" them -- well, we all know how that's working. (The elites behind them never believed it)


"Tolerance" just doesn't exist in most of the world --- tribalism, Islam, and family kinship rule (enforced by the patriarchy).

 

[NZ Poke]

Highly suggested:

 

[FalseGod]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Indigenous_Australians

 

[Headhunter]

Stay on topic, we're talking Australia, pretty sure that's probably Mississippi or Alabama or Perkins. Somewhere like that.

 

[FalseGod]

Definitely a dark stain on Aus!

I was in Melbourne (considered Australia's cosmopolitan cultural capital, a very European-esque city) back in about 2010.

I heard very "progressive" Australians say things about Aborigines that would never fly in cosmopolitan societies here. (Quite racist)

They were also very anti-American. I received more anti-American sentiment per capita in Melbourne (was there about a week) than I ever felt in NZ (was there six years). Very noticeable difference between Melbourne and anywhere in NZ.

I partially blame cultural Marxism - under cultural Marxism (and post Iraq war), anything "American" (and especially WASP American) became completely uncool (in the eyes of pop culture and media) in the era of Obama - toward the end of Obama (with BLM, it got worse).

I just spent 3 weeks in Australia (5 days in Melbourne). As an American everyone was very nice and generous to me, but I also often got comments along the lines of me being the first American they have met that they didn't want to punch in the face. I do agree with the racism aspect. It is subtle, but if you pay attention you'll see it, not just towards the native peoples, but towards others as well.

I even had the pleasure of meeting some native Australians one evening. They were very welcoming and nice, but also could tell there was a bit of a defensiveness about whose land it was. Melbourne and Brisbane were my favorites, but I traveled over 3500km while I was there and everything was enjoyable.

 

[squeak]

Stay on topic, we're talking Australia, pretty sure that's probably Mississippi or Alabama or Perkins. Somewhere like that.

He's likening the cross to the confederate flag and Muslims to blacks.

 

[FalseGod]

Nice! Business trip or pleasure?

I felt the people in the rest of Aus would be a lot friendlier than Melbourne (at the time) --- Melbourne is pretty snobby / elitist to the rest of Australia as well. (being a beautiful city that consistently is ranked as one of the world's best)

Did you like Melbourne? I liked it a lot, just not some of the attitudes.

Where were your favorite places in Aus?

I've always wanted to go to Perth (the world's most isolated large city), and to Shark Bay.

All pleasure. I loved Melbourne. No issues with their attitudes, but I live in Austin, so it really wasn't any worse than anything I'm already used to here. Victorians did have a higher opinion of everything Victorian, but that was no where as bad as the high horse that Texans ride on. I was most surprised by how many people I met from Melbourne who had never been to Sydney ever and vice versa. I can't imagine someone from Dallas never having been to Houston. It was about 30-40 minute $50 one way flight between the two!

I met up with local acquaintances in Melbourne and Apollo Bay, who showed me around those places a bit. Melbourne reminded me of Montreal. Loved all the little alley way bars and shops.

I drove the great ocean road all the way around to Adelaide, flew to Port Lincoln in a prop plane and then back to Melbourne to Fly to Sydney and then drive through the Blue Mountains and Gold Coast on the way to Brisbane. Brisbane was my second favorite city there as well, but alas that's where I departed back to Texas.

I actually know a few people from Perth and they all told me to not bother because it is pretty boring as a whole out there. If you have a specific place you are looking to check out, certainly I'm sure it would be worth it, but it is a pretty long hike from east to west there and you would need to have either time or reason to do it.

 

[Headhunter]

He's likening the cross to the confederate flag and Muslims to blacks.

Get the analogy just thought it was worthy of a joke instead of a serious response.

 

[squeak]

Get the analogy just thought it was worthy of a joke instead of a serious response.

Do you think he was joking?

 

[Headhunter]

Do you think he was joking?

No, maybe my response should be classified "sarcastic" rather than a "joke".

 

[windriverrange]

NZ, Perth is a great place, with super nice folks. I spent a small amount of time in Wollongong and Sydney 9Both in NSW) as well. Never had an issue, just couldn't believe how dam expensive Sydney was. Perth was very laid back and I even took a full day tour out to wave Rock and some other aboriginal places. Saw a very cool dog cemetery, parts of the old rabbit fence they tried to run the north south length of WA to stop the rabbits moving west, saw a town with a bank for one customer and so on. Beautiful country but very isolated, as you might expect.

 

[NZ Poke]

@windriverrange --- from my recollection, you've been a lot of places?! Would you ever want to live anywhere outside America? And if so, where?

When I was in Aus, I was younger and single -- and much more interested in nightlife and cutting edge culture.


Melbourne definitely has that (super trendy), as @FalseGod said --- and I too have been to Montreal (one of my favorite cities) and definitely felt the comparisons between it and Melbourne...


Now I'm recently married and finished with bars and nightlife (have been for a few years).

With that in mind, Perth sounds like a jewel (I too heard it was slow before -- "slow" sounds better now).





Also have heard really great things about Adelaide (garden city):




I hope Australia remains safe, seems like it has the best chance to. (Isolated, historically strict immigration)

 

[windriverrange]

NZ, interesting question......if I ever lived outside of the US and could chose a place it would be either Adelaide (actually further up the coast near the Barossa Valley), somewhere in eastern Belgium (Ardennes Forest area near the German Border & Luxembourg) or The State of Minas Gerais, Brazil (north of Belo Horizonte in Bonito) and only if we could buy a business there. Bonito is awesome and has lots of outdoor activities with caves to explore, rivers to float and mountains to climb.

I am taking my wife to Greece in May, where we are spending two days in Athens, then flying down to Crete and renting a car to drive around for 8 days. Have heard awesome things about Crete so that might hit the list as well.

Second tier would be Bratislava or Perth. I'm not really big on huge cities and like you the bar scene and nightlife has passed me by. Perth was super laid back, actually the people reminded me of western Oklahoma, some parts of Texas or Wyoming. Genuine people, who are not in a hurry to get anywhere and when you got into the farming areas of WA was fantastic, just very isolated.

 

[Medic007]

NZ, interesting question......if I ever lived outside of the US and could chose a place it would be either Adelaide (actually further up the coast near the Barossa Valley), somewhere in eastern Belgium (Ardennes Forest area near the German Border & Luxembourg) or The State of Minas Gerais, Brazil (north of Belo Horizonte in Bonito) and only if we could buy a business there. Bonito is awesome and has lots of outdoor activities with caves to explore, rivers to float and mountains to climb.

I am taking my wife to Greece in May, where we are spending two days in Athens, then flying down to Crete and renting a car to drive around for 8 days. Have heard awesome things about Crete so that might hit the list as well.

Second tier would be Bratislava or Perth. I'm not really big on huge cities and like you the bar scene and nightlife has passed me by. Perth was super laid back, actually the people reminded me of western Oklahoma, some parts of Texas or Wyoming. Genuine people, who are not in a hurry to get anywhere and when you got into the farming areas of WA was fantastic, just very isolated.

You may not know this yet, but you are taking me with you. Yes I'll ride in your luggage. Just need a Lunchable with a juice box for the flight.

 

[FalseGod]

i spent only 1 night in Adelaide, but I did like that city too. It definitely reminded me of OKC or Tulsa, so if you like that kind of pace it is a good place for you to pick to live there. I personally would have to live in Melbourne or Brisbane for my lifestyle, but I can see the appeal of the other cities. My good mate in Perth is younger and likes to enjoy more exciting lifestyles than Perth. He mainly complained that everything shuts down pretty early there, which isn't his style. I found the nightlife outside of the cities to be pretty much in line with that though. The smaller cities are much more limited in excitement in general, but there are always people anywhere that are like minded no matter what city you go with, so that's just a matter of finding the right people. He's a big metal head and his biggest complaint was that international bands rarely bother coming to Perth on tours because of the fact that you pretty much have to fly there because of the distance. And since it is such a sleepy town it doesn't have a great local scene either.

 

[windriverrange]

Medic, no worries man, I'll send you our flight schedule later . Actually if this goes off well, we are definitely going to go back so I'll keep you posted maybe you can bring the wife along and we do a cruise through the islands. Only reason we aren't doing that this time, is because I'm bringing my mom along (a thank you for putting up with me) and on many of the islands you have lots of up and down walking, which at 84 she would have lots of trouble doing.

FalseGod, I really didn't go out much in Perth except in the vicinity of the convention center and most of those places were small pubs with no live music. A huge draw there is the wineries on The Swan River (and another place that escapes my mind). On the tour we took, we had to bring box lunches for our last stop (dinner at 6pm) because all the restaurants in the town were already closed, which cracked me up. I loved the laid back lifestyle though.

 

[Medic007]

Medic, no worries man, I'll send you our flight schedule later . Actually if this goes off well, we are definitely going to go back so I'll keep you posted maybe you can bring the wife along and we do a cruise through the islands. Only reason we aren't doing that this time, is because I'm bringing my mom along (a thank you for putting up with me) and on many of the islands you have lots of up and down walking, which at 84 she would have lots of trouble doing.

Sounds awesome. I'm expecting to see plenty of pictures on the book of faces. The only vacationing I'll be doing in the foreseeable future is to exotic gymnastics gyms.

 

[mseabolt]

Sounds awesome. I'm expecting to see plenty of pictures on the book of faces. The only vacationing I'll be doing in the foreseeable future is to exotic gymnastics gyms.

oh, the smells

 

[Medic007]

oh, the smells

Exactly.