#Release the Applications

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

So we've seen the highly partisan House Intel Committee's best shot -- the shocking, Peter-King-nearly-stroked out, awful memo. It's that in one of four FISA applications to surveil Carter Page, a yahoo news article and the dossier were included. Right?

Page was already a player in a successful prosecution of Russian espionage, was a national security advisor to Biff and had been flying to Russia during the campaign. There are articles to anonymous sources that say he was surveilled during the 2014 investigation of Evgeny Buryakov.

Buryakov was arrested on January 26, 2015, and charged of "conspiracy to act in the United States as an agent of a foreign government. He pled guilty as part of a plea agreement and received a 30-month prison sentence and a $100,000 fine. Sporyshev and Podobnyy, however, fled the country and returned to Russia before they could be arrested.://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-spy-evgeny-buryakov-deported-united-states/story?id=46601947


So who's for transparency? Release all four applications? Right? Let's drain some swamps, right fellow patriots?

 

[long-duc-dong]

Absolutely. I don’t think anyone on here has said not to release them. Let’s find out what the court used to issue the warrant. Maybe the court is corrupt as well. While we’re at it let’s see the McCabe testimony if that hasn’t already been made public.

 

[DrunkenViking]

Agree, release them

That’s part of the strategy anyway.

And you’re wrong

It was used as one of the key pieces of more than one

* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias.
Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

* The four FISA surveillance applications were signed by, in various combinations, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rod Rosenstein.

* The FBI authorized payments to Steele for work on the dossier. The FBI terminated its agreement with Steele in late October when it learned, by reading an article in Mother Jones, that Steele was talking to the media.

The FBI knowingly submitted false information to obtain warrants and did not provide that info to the judge.

Didn’t that judge recuse himself later?

 

[PDT816]

You people are going to go ballistic when you find out that the FBI just sent in their kids crayon drawings for fisa warrants

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Absolutely. I don’t think anyone on here has said not to release them. Let’s find out what the court used to issue the warrant. Maybe the court is corrupt as well. While we’re at it let’s see the McCabe testimony if that hasn’t already been made public.

Well that gang of sickfat conservatives won't release those applications. They're so full of shit any reasonable person should be able to see it. That's who the WH constantly uses to try and squirrel out of this russia investigation.
That alone justifies a long, hard, deliberate, thoughtful look at this russia deal from every angle, along with the FBI, and this scheme to purge the FBI, depending on whether FBI actions were partisan motivated. I personally think Comey is just a linear-thinking, typical LE guy without a lot of political intuition. He really hurt the

Agree, release them

That’s part of the strategy anyway.

And you’re wrong

It was used as one of the key pieces of more than one

* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

* Andrew McCabe confirmed that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

* The political origins of the Steele dossier were known to senior DOJ and FBI officials, but excluded from the FISA applications.

* DOJ official Bruce Ohr met with Steele beginning in the summer of 2016 and relayed to DOJ information about Steele's bias.
Steele told Ohr that he, Steele, was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected president and was passionate about him not becoming president.

* The four FISA surveillance applications were signed by, in various combinations, James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Sally Yates, Dana Boente, and Rod Rosenstein.

* The FBI authorized payments to Steele for work on the dossier. The FBI terminated its agreement with Steele in late October when it learned, by reading an article in Mother Jones, that Steele was talking to the media.

The FBI knowingly submitted false information to obtain warrants and did not provide that info to the judge.

Didn’t that judge recuse himself later?

FBI investigations with Carter (and it looks like Fisa warrants if Washington Examiner and CNN are to be believed) predated the Steele dossier. Where do you get that McCabe said the dossier was essential? For how long?

What false information did the FBI knowingly submit?

You literally cannot figure out what happened from that memo. It is useless to determine what took place. If it contains the worst, then Nunes should be gibbeted. It is insane what a puffy, popcorn fart that memo is. It's even wrong on the law.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

Well that gang of sickfat conservatives won't release those applications. They're so full of shit any reasonable person should be able to see it. That's who the WH constantly uses to try and squirrel out of this russia investigation.
That alone justifies a long, hard, deliberate, thoughtful look at this russia deal from every angle, along with the FBI, and this scheme to purge the FBI, depending on whether FBI actions were partisan motivated. I personally think Comey is just a linear-thinking, typical LE guy without a lot of political intuition. He really hurt the


FBI investigations with Carter (and it looks like Fisa warrants if Washington Examiner and CNN are to be believed) predated the Steele dossier. Where do you get that McCabe said the dossier was essential? For how long?

What false information did the FBI knowingly submit?

You literally cannot figure out what happened from that memo. It is useless to determine what took place. If it contains the worst, then Nunes should be gibbeted. It is insane what a puffy, popcorn fart that memo is. It's even wrong on the law.

that’s it. stay optimistic. this congressional memo probably won’t lead to any indictments yet.

 

[NZ Poke]

that’s it. stay optimistic. this congressional memo probably won’t lead to any indictments yet.

Sys went inmediately from guarateeing Hillary would win the election --- into "Russia."

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

Sys went inmediately from guarateeing Hillary would win the election --- into "Russia."

they all did. well programmed. very useful.

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

this seems totally reasonable. unfortunately for dingleberry this is not yet the kind of country where you get “locked up” for exposing police state crimes.

 

[Ponca Dan]

Well that gang of sickfat conservatives won't release those applications. They're so full of shit any reasonable person should be able to see it. That's who the WH constantly uses to try and squirrel out of this russia investigation.
That alone justifies a long, hard, deliberate, thoughtful look at this russia deal from every angle, along with the FBI, and this scheme to purge the FBI, depending on whether FBI actions were partisan motivated. I personally think Comey is just a linear-thinking, typical LE guy without a lot of political intuition. He really hurt the


FBI investigations with Carter (and it looks like Fisa warrants if Washington Examiner and CNN are to be believed) predated the Steele dossier. Where do you get that McCabe said the dossier was essential? For how long?

What false information did the FBI knowingly submit?

You literally cannot figure out what happened from that memo. It is useless to determine what took place. If it contains the worst, then Nunes should be gibbeted. It is insane what a puffy, popcorn fart that memo is. It's even wrong on the law.

Sys, I see you repeatedly talking about the “Russia investigation” as if you believe it is a legitimate process. The investigation began purportedly to seek out evidence of collusion, and has now transformed into claims of obstruction. I have no doubt you believe the investigation will discover electoral crimes by the Trump team. My question for you is what do you see as the final outcome of the investigation? You seem to be following the minutia on a daily basis - certainly much more closely that me. What collusion crime do you think took place? And what obstruction do you think can be proved? Are you hoping to see Trump be charged, tried and convicted? Are you wanting to see your President put in prison? I’m curious if that’s what you want to see, or if you just enjoy watching the Trumpsters go into an indignant rage?

 

[Alpha Poke]

Well that gang of sickfat conservatives won't release those applications. They're so full of shit any reasonable person should be able to see it. That's who the WH constantly uses to try and squirrel out of this russia investigation.
That alone justifies a long, hard, deliberate, thoughtful look at this russia deal from every angle, along with the FBI, and this scheme to purge the FBI, depending on whether FBI actions were partisan motivated. I personally think Comey is just a linear-thinking, typical LE guy without a lot of political intuition. He really hurt the


FBI investigations with Carter (and it looks like Fisa warrants if Washington Examiner and CNN are to be believed) predated the Steele dossier. Where do you get that McCabe said the dossier was essential? For how long?

What false information did the FBI knowingly submit?

You literally cannot figure out what happened from that memo. It is useless to determine what took place. If it contains the worst, then Nunes should be gibbeted. It is insane what a puffy, popcorn fart that memo is. It's even wrong on the law.

Why did Democrats not want it released?

 

[HanAholeSolo2.0]

Sys, I see you repeatedly talking about the “Russia investigation” as if you believe it is a legitimate process. The investigation began purportedly to seek out evidence of collusion, and has now transformed into claims of obstruction. I have no doubt you believe the investigation will discover electoral crimes by the Trump team. My question for you is what do you see as the final outcome of the investigation? You seem to be following the minutia on a daily basis - certainly much more closely that me. What collusion crime do you think took place? And what obstruction do you think can be proved? Are you hoping to see Trump be charged, tried and convicted? Are you wanting to see your President put in prison? I’m curious if that’s what you want to see, or if you just enjoy watching the Trumpsters go into an indignant rage?

he doesn’t have a plan for any outcome beyond Flynn flipping and snitching on trump because of his low character.

what he fails to understand is:

1. russian collusion is fabricated and was what strock referred to as the insurance policy.

2. meuller is not going to ignore ancillary findings of wrong doing of people who aren’t donald trump or his campaign team. meaning, be careful what you ask for, meuller may well determine something unexpected.

3. either by design or circumstance (depending on if you still think trump is a lucky idiot or a brilliant strategist) the left and it’s corporate media propagandists have virtually deified meuller msking his eventual charges and recommendations unimpeachable (no pun intended).

4. the ig report will be devestating to both the swamp and it’s tapestry of lies (Russia)

5. sys likes to ask why putin wanted trump to win. he didn’t. if he wants anything it would be exactly what is happening with trump derangement syndrome crippling political discourse with fairytale accusations and secret police actions trying to influence elections.

further and further out in the limb he climbs.

 

[DrunkenViking]

Well that gang of sickfat conservatives won't release those applications. They're so full of shit any reasonable person should be able to see it. That's who the WH constantly uses to try and squirrel out of this russia investigation.
That alone justifies a long, hard, deliberate, thoughtful look at this russia deal from every angle, along with the FBI, and this scheme to purge the FBI, depending on whether FBI actions were partisan motivated. I personally think Comey is just a linear-thinking, typical LE guy without a lot of political intuition. He really hurt the


FBI investigations with Carter (and it looks like Fisa warrants if Washington Examiner and CNN are to be believed) predated the Steele dossier. Where do you get that McCabe said the dossier was essential? For how long?

What false information did the FBI knowingly submit?

You literally cannot figure out what happened from that memo. It is useless to determine what took place. If it contains the worst, then Nunes should be gibbeted. It is insane what a puffy, popcorn fart that memo is. It's even wrong on the law.

They started using 702 about inquiries before a warrant was granted.

Once they got the Dossier in July they applied for the warrants retroactively in October.

McCabe’s testimony to Congress will end up being released and it’s in there.

The only Putin puppets in this country are all of you with TDS.

That’s the cause of instability.

You’ve been spoon fed a lie

This will be bigger than watergate.

This is just the beginning of the storm

Schiff is a crooked ass shit

You’re on the wrong side on this issue

Grassley memo next

Then Mueller (I think you’re going to be disappointed)

Then the IG report.

The level of corruption is so great they have to report it in small prices with each bomb getting a little bigger because releasing it all could cause a lot of civil unrest.

It’s coming

Obama admin most corrupt in US history.

 

[DrunkenViking]

I owe a correction

In the HPSCI outline it specifically notes the targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page was NOT a FISA Title VII search request.

Title VII is FISA(702), the incidental collection of U.S. person information as it relates to National Security or Counterintelligence operations targeting foreign individuals.

The FISA ‘warrant’ request, against Carter Page, was made October 21st, 2016, under Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Meaning the surveillance application was specifically stating, to the court, the U.S. individual was likely an actual agent of a foreign government, ie. “a spy.”

Legal commentary thread on #Memo by Robert Barnes:

It is important to remember that FISA courts are not like other courts; there needs to be specific evidence of a particular national security threat to circumvent regular federal courts.

It is a HIGHER standard because its jurisdiction is LIMITED
FISA courts have LIMITED jurisdiction because the scope of the invasive tools of the NSA is far more INVASIVE than regular wiretaps, due to the SECRET nature of such courts, and from the risk of forum shopping with the limited number and deferential nature of FISA Judges.

That is why Congress imposed SPECIAL RESTRICTIONS on access to FISA courts and use of FISA evidence. To access FISA courts, only the highest ranking FBI officials must vet and approve, a high ranking DOJ official must authorize, and they must re-vet and re-approve every 90 days.

To spy on Americans through a FISA court, the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power. The law makes it difficult to show someone is an “agent of a foreign power” to make sure it is not misused to spy on Americans.

The law does not allow the FBI to call an American an “agent of a foreign power” unless they can show the person “knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power” AND the nature of their activity is criminalized.

Claiming someone is an “agent of a foreign power” is a difficult standard to ever show, and should never happen to a domestic political opponent in a domestic political campaign. That is why the FBI had to cook the books — put a bogus informant on their team & lie to the courts.

Trump’s winning caused a problem for Comey & Comey’s firing caused a problem for Rosenstein. Both Comey & Rosenstein signed off on the bogus affidavits to the FISA court to continue spying on Trump team members post-election and post-inauguration. They needed Mueller to cover up.

Key fact about Mueller: he is very close friends with Comey, and was the mentor and close friend of Rosenstein. Mueller is also expert at covering up for lawless law enforcement: see his role with Whitey Bulger, BCCI, HSBC, Waco, Noriega, IRS/Tea Party & Fast & Furious.

FISA law protects Americans from lawless spying by masking & deletion of intercepted data. If an American’s conversations are intercepted, his identity must remain hidden, and if no p/c of a crime, his conversations deleted. Hence, the importance of @Cernovich Susan Rice story.

FBI turned over their NSA spying capacity to a private lobbying company in order to promote a smear campaign against a domestic political opponent. Fearing being caught, they appointed a special counsel (Mueller) to cover for them by accusing the man (Trump) who might expose them (link)