HS Recruiting News
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In Bo Nickals interview with Rogan he stated that the PSU coaches have a lot book of every single practice and how the guys performed since they took over the program. And they have used the history of poor performances to adjust training during those times. This will 💯 be what DT brings to the program. Good take!
Correct. Also heard there were eligibility issues. Not sure for certain what they were.
Were the eligibility issues the reason he did not crack the line up? OK State has always been successful with foreign wrestlers. Alan Gelogaev is the best one I can think of. Can not think of many other than him that have been so successful in the NCAA. I am probably missing quite a few in the last ten to twenty years.
Just beat Desmond not too long ago
Yojiro Uetake, 3 x NCAA champ. That was a few years ago though
This 2025 class is steadily becoming extremely stacked. I did not see this guy on the radar
He held his own against Luke L until the very end too.
This might be one of the situations with the right coaching you make it a big reward
He just won the Inland Ellte wrestling tournament at 132# with a fall in the finals. He ranked 5th at 120 in Flo'a latest poll. His father Camilo Ramirez is his coach. He looked dynamic in the 132# final.
Or he’s good as is. 🤷🏼♂️ I have heard real good things about him, he probably gets overshadowed by a crazy class.
He’s much less finished out than a guy like Lilledahl too imo. I really like him. He looks like a kid with a lot of upside.
Just watched Ramirez's match v. Desmond (along with several others). First time I've really watched him, and it was a fun watch. He had the same swagger all the way through 0-0, 0-5, 4-5, and walking off at 8-5. He can score from his or his opponents shot (he hit a goofy af go-behind off of a Desmond shot right at the end of the first that I watched like 10 times) and is good at managing space. He looks like someone who will definitely win some matches at the next level regardless, but the ceiling is sky high.
Would this mean we are not as interested in Jax?
I’d say it’s more likely that it has something to say about our chances with Blaze… or lack there of
I have 0 inside information, but I can confidently say, No, this does not mean that.
Who ever gets Blaze is getting an absolute freak
I watched 2 Ramirez matches in response to him committing to us. I wish I never watched the BO Bassett match because it was a folkstyle tech with complete domination. Ramirez could not even defend himself at all. He wrestled in the semi's against a wrestler from Gilroy where he won in a last period in overtime ride out. He did not get a takedown the whole match. He is a 2 time California State Champ and wrestling this next year for a 3rd but I am shocked that he stuck some with Lilledahl but I think we want Jax. I could not find a Lilledahl match.
Moving forward, we aren’t recruiting a lineup, we are recruiting kids that want to be the best in the world.
You’ll see us grab kids that looks like a logjam waiting to happen, when in reality, we’ll have a logjam all through the lineup.
It will allow freedom for the Program and some for the kids as well. Just like PSU having the ability to let Starocci jump from 65 to 84 or 97, without losing points at the weight vacated.
I agree. This is about kids that have a crazy desire to be great and alot of room before they hit their ceiling.
Also… don’t watch matches against Bo and make any kind of assumptions lol
But feel free to make all the assumptions in the world by the Lilledahl match 🤣🤣. I know I will
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That’s my point. Just reading between the lines and I wonder if it’s saying we don’t have a shot at the very top guys?
Since we were recruiting very good with the old staff if the new staff doesn't get some of the very top guys in the next 2 years, boy the pressure will jump on our new staff with the money they are making and the investments in the Program. The few moves they have made so far though very early would rate a C grade. That 2026 class will be very important for us.
That’s a fairly biased and leading opinion. They’ve taken 2 guys so far (late in the process I might add) and both are top 30 recruits. Ronnie was the top remaining prospect not named Marcus Blaze.
The grades on the new staff will come down to whether they can develop guys like Troy, Cael, Tagen, JWill and Plott. If those guys can jump a level then the rest will fall into place and they’ll be much more well thought of than John and crew were over the last decade.
Taking top classes and doing little with them means nothing.
Taking top ranked guys no matter roster need and then trying to make tweeners find a way to fit isn’t/wasn’t ideal.
Taking Ronnie because we don’t have an “in” with Blaze isn’t some huge loss
I think keeping Lockett and the majority of our wrestlers and previous recruits, is a solid start. Getting Routledge to flip was big. Carroll leaving stung for sure. I like the Ramirez get, I just don’t know what it means. It could be as simple as the desire to have as many arrows in our quiver as possible or it could mean we are focusing our efforts in other areas, in case we don’t land the biggest fish. Or, did the staff see something in Ramirez that other’s didn’t? The old staff, we could see the reason behind most recruits. Time will tell, I guess.
I would love to see our wrestlers jump a level in next year's results. That would really indicate something very good about our coaches but to compete with Penn. St. you have to recruit and get commitments from the top guys. It is not a biased view, our coaches are unproven, and time will indicate how good they are. Obviously great potential is there with our coaches but at this point nobody knows how good they are. They will be competing against an outstanding staff and everyone on this forum knows what my goal is for the Cowboys and that is winning 35. Are we closer to 35 with Taylor as our head coach versus Coleman, time will tell. Yes, development will be a big part of that answer but we need to recruit at a super high level because Penn. St. will. I stick with my point that the 2026 class will be very important for us and if we don't get a top wrestler in 2026 we aren't getting number 35 for quite a few years.
It’s true. Coaching and development, I’m pretty confident this staff can do. They’ve been doing it their entire career. Being organized and making contacts and getting high level recruits into the room, that takes time and experience. I think this staff can do it. Well, time will tell.
I’m just saying that you’re creating a line in the sand for no reason. There is zero point in bringing up Coleman at this point. He didn’t get the job. Trying to set up hypotheticals where DT and co. come up short when all they’ve done is land two top 30 kids that the old staff passed on is suspect imo. It feels like you’re unhappy with the hire and you’re trying to build a case. We all know that the staff would’ve taken Blaze, Bo and Jax if they could so what does signing Ronnie say about Bo and Jax? Nothing
The old staff wasn’t taking Kody and OSU wasnt on Ronnie’s radar. He was all set to go wrestle for Pendleton.
So with the disadvantage of starting a full year into the ‘25 class… all they’ve done is flip Routledge and sign the top rated uncommitted prospect not named Blaze (who everyone with knowledge said is staying home).
I believe that you want 35… we all do! But you’re also still tilting at windmills regarding CS.
I think Merrill will have a better career at 197
You are correct in that nobody really knows yet how good the staff will be and time will tell so.... why have you already assigned a C grade to them? A grade of C indicates that you have already judged them to be an average staff. It's FAR too early to grade this staff.
If they are a C at development then that would put them on par with the past staff. 
Far to early to judge them on anything.
Far to early to judge them on anything.
LOL! I would say a C is about right, or maybe a little generous. With pretty good talent, we were finishing consistently out of the top ten. We were circling the drain into a mediocre oblivion. It was definitely time. The future was bright for us with either coach. Just because Taylor is a new head coach for a D1 program, someone like him probably has been preparing mentally and hypothetically for years, being around and watching some of the best coaches in history. It may be a little rocky at first, but I have great confidence in him.If they are a C at development then that would put them on par with the past staff.
Far to early to judge them on anything.
y'all got a commitment from #27 and flipped #16 and it got your dobber down?
what am i missing?
what am i missing?
From what I saw from freestyle this summer. Merrill (should)be a better fit for 197. Carrol will have a rough time maintaining that weight for 4 years.
The fact that you negatively react to the comment of one poster and generalize the entire fan base based on that.
It should be of note that the poster in particular is rated at #1 in the fan base as being negative, critical and overall just considered the “get off my lawn guy.”
This is the second time you’ve done this in the last month. I will say it was more than one person on the other subject, but it wasn’t the entire fan base like you try to make it.
If you’re going to be a pot stirrer, do it somewhere else.
