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Fresh take, Dan.

sys, I’m starting to get concerned about you. Your demeanor has taken a sideways turn lately. Your rhetoric has become mean, vitriolic. You seem to be trying to pick fights with almost everyone on this board. Your new favorite word appears to be “wingnut,” which you apply to anyone whose opinion does not correspond with your own. It’s a term that says the other person’s opinion is not to be taken seriously, not to be listened to, addressed only as something to belittle and insult. This attitude seems to have come out of nowhere. To be honest I’m worried about you. In the past your comments/insults have seemed to be good natured attempts at humor. The sys we have been seeing lately is not good. Are you OK? Is everything alright with you?
 
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sys, I’m starting to get concerned about you. Your demeanor has taken a sideways turn lately. Your rhetoric has become mean, vitriolic. You seem to be trying to pick fights with almost everyone on this board. Your new favorite word appears to be “wingnut,” which you apply to anyone whose opinion does not correspond with your own. It’s a term that says the other person’s opinion is not to be taken seriously, not to be listened to, addressed only as something to belittle and insult. This attitude seems to have come out of nowhere. To be honest I’m worried about you. In the past your comments/insults have seemed to be good natured attempts at humor. The sys we have been seeing lately is not good. Are you OK? Is everything alright with you?

Dan, that wasn't mean or vitriolic. You repeat the same perspective, constantly, over and over. The volume of the same messaging and worldview is fair game.

I'm concerned about your passive aggression. I have been attacked so frequently on here with mean and vitriolic things and you never commented then. Why not? Another poster identified you as very passive aggressive and while I didn't see it then I think he was right, the more I think about it. It's hard to believe that you would label anyone as uniquely mean or vitriolic given the constant comments on here. They make fun of people's socioeconomic status, careers, jobs, and nary a peep from you? Huh. Probably just didn't notice it, right?
 
Dan, that wasn't mean or vitriolic. You repeat the same perspective, constantly, over and over. The volume of the same messaging and worldview is fair game.

I'm concerned about your passive aggression. I have been attacked so frequently on here with mean and vitriolic things and you never commented then. Why not? Another poster identified you as very passive aggressive and while I didn't see it then I think he was right, the more I think about it. It's hard to believe that you would label anyone as uniquely mean or vitriolic given the constant comments on here. They make fun of people's socioeconomic status, careers, jobs, and nary a peep from you? Huh. Probably just didn't notice it, right?
Hard to discern good spirited ribbing from hate around here lately....
 
Dan, that wasn't mean or vitriolic. You repeat the same perspective, constantly, over and over. The volume of the same messaging and worldview is fair game.

I'm concerned about your passive aggression. I have been attacked so frequently on here with mean and vitriolic things and you never commented then. Why not? Another poster identified you as very passive aggressive and while I didn't see it then I think he was right, the more I think about it. It's hard to believe that you would label anyone as uniquely mean or vitriolic given the constant comments on here. They make fun of people's socioeconomic status, careers, jobs, and nary a peep from you? Huh. Probably just didn't notice it, right?

No, that particular comment was neither mean nor vitriolic. I pondered starting a new thread but decided against it. I probably should have.

It is surprising you find the fact that I repeat the same perspective, constantly over and over as something to criticize. We all have our own perspectives, and we all repeat our perspectives over and over. I don’t think I am unique in that regard. You certainly don’t shy away from giving your perspective over and over! Nor should you. What is a person supposed to do, make comments he doesn’t believe in order to have diversity?

Mainly I try to be polite and respectful to others. You choose to call it passive aggressive. I think I’ll stick to being polite and respectful. A few days ago you said you were going to put me on ignore. That might be a good policy for you.

I recognize you are repeatedly attacked on this board. You often are seriously outnumbered, and some of the things said to you are outrageous. But you seem to be unable to let it go. You seem determined to have the last word. It’s hard to have the last word when you are exchanging insults with four or five others.

I have always liked you, found you interesting (though frequently misguided), and have said so several times. I don’t think I’m the only one who has observed you becoming so caustic. Something about your personality on this board has changed, and not for the better. I wish you well. Please put me on ignore. Maybe it will help to lighten your mood.
 
Great stuff.

"No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person.”

I like that one a lot. And the type of people who think they are that grand or wise or perfect are usually extremely attracted to power. "Live and let live" kind of people see politics as an endeavor they would never, ever choose to pursue. That is why capital cities everywhere are filled with the worst kind of busy-body control freaks, insecure, ridiculous bureaucrats with an insatiable desire to control others.
 
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I recognize you are repeatedly attacked on this board. You often are seriously outnumbered, and some of the things said to you are outrageous. But you seem to be unable to let it go. You seem determined to have the last word. It’s hard to have the last word when you are exchanging insults with four or five others.

That takes me back to my original point. I think that your concerns are really a pretty transparent double standard. That's just one guy's opinion, I'm sorry if I make you uncomfortable, I'm just trying to be polite and courteous. It's best not to be offended by someone being courteous, otherwise courteous people won't understand how they've made somebody mad for no reason!

Mainly I try to be polite and respectful to others. You choose to call it passive aggressive. I think I’ll stick to being polite and respectful

Being polite and courteous isn't passive aggressive. My pretending that you've been attacked for being polite and respectful, you amplify the concerns about passive aggression. I would hope that all people are polite and respectful, even if it infuriates passive aggressive people. Wouldn't you agree with that?

A few days ago you said you were going to put me on ignore. That might be a good policy for you.

I wish you well. Please put me on ignore. Maybe it will help to lighten your mood.

Thank you, Dan, and I wish you and your family happiness and good health. I feel that maybe you should put me on ignore if merely writing "Fresh take" seems to trigger so much passive aggression. Sometimes when we just repeat the same thing over and over with evangelical zeal we have to be prepared for other posters commenting on it, even if we think it's really, really important or smart. I would suggest that you can repeat yourself to your hear's content with zero issues from me if you just put me on ignore. It's totally your call and I don't think anybody will blame you or say anything too mean regardless of what you do. I hope your memorial day is a great one, and don't eat too many hot dogs!
 
sys, I’m starting to get concerned about you. Your demeanor has taken a sideways turn lately. Your rhetoric has become mean, vitriolic. You seem to be trying to pick fights with almost everyone on this board. Your new favorite word appears to be “wingnut,” which you apply to anyone whose opinion does not correspond with your own. It’s a term that says the other person’s opinion is not to be taken seriously, not to be listened to, addressed only as something to belittle and insult. This attitude seems to have come out of nowhere. To be honest I’m worried about you. In the past your comments/insults have seemed to be good natured attempts at humor. The sys we have been seeing lately is not good. Are you OK? Is everything alright with you?

he suffers from chronic trump derangement syndrome. It’s progressive - just like him. we are simply observing his slow inexorable descent into madness.
 
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