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Portland deadliest year on record

I don’t feel bad for them. They voted for the policies that created the mess, now they can live with the consequences. Sadly the voters up there are stupid and will continue to vote for the same BS, expecting different results. As far as I’m concerned areas like Portland are a lost cause, let it burn to the ground.
 
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Many voted for them I'm sure, but I believe elections have been stolen in this country for decades. Our biggest weakness in this country is tolerance, We tolerated the left taking over in California and if we called them out we were considered politically incorrect.

We let 2020 get stolen and are scared to rise together and say we have to fix it. We've allowed George Soros to buy all these district attorney officers who let theCriminals back out on the streets. We let California be taken over by the white, Marxist, left. We continue to let the left kill the country, obviously they're killing the world it is not just in the good old USA
 
No need to visit the city anymore. Luckily those asshats can’t make it out to wine country or Bandon.
 
Portland by design- flood the country with illegals, corrupt DA let criminals out for mayhem in all the cities, stop the food and product supply lines, all
Small biz gone, only big woke corporations left in cahoots with a ONE.....WORLD.....GOVERNMENT.......ie the New World Order....ie the Great Reset. Elites are rich and powerful and control- rest of us are peasants and own nothing- we rent from them.

Don't believe me? Look up New World Order and the great reset....look up Blackrock How they're buying up rental houses, Bill Gates buying up farmland to control us.

Us conspiracy theorists are shrinking as it's all known as truth now. They Shredded Alex Jones (I had doubted him bc they tarnished him) but that's dudes been right on everything? Look at who they demonize- that's a good sign those people are telling truths
 
Yikes, maybe they should defund the police if they can't keep the homicide rate down.
 
Yikes, maybe they should defund the police if they can't keep the homicide rate down.
From Bari Weiss’ Substack site comes a plea by a progressive for his fellow progressives to stop with the idiocy.



 
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I was surprised to hear Bari Weiss call herself a progressive. I did not know she thought of herself as such. Taking her at her word here’s an article by a progressive begging her fellow progressives to wise up.


Dan, That does not seem to be written by Bari Weiss, just hosted on her substack.

Seems to be long on anecdotes and short on data.
If defund the police were really the cause of this wave of violence it sure wouldn't be hard to prove at least a correlation.
 
Dan, That does not seem to be written by Bari Weiss, just hosted on her substack.

Seems to be long on anecdotes and short on data.
If defund the police were really the cause of this wave of violence it sure wouldn't be hard to prove at least a correlation.
Yes, I caught my mistake after I posted it. It has now been revised!
 
Dan, That does not seem to be written by Bari Weiss, just hosted on her substack.

Seems to be long on anecdotes and short on data.
If defund the police were really the cause of this wave of violence it sure wouldn't be hard to prove at least a correlation.
Again, Democrats and Progressives can wait for data, but when fellow Progressives point out the mistakes it would be wise to listen to them. Waiting for the data may be too late. The people living the data may not take kindly to being experimental toys.
 
Interesting paper on the "Ferguson Effect"
That's way too long for my limited attention span. I notice it says it covers the years 2010-2015. That was a lifetime ago. Can you give me an edited version of what it says?
 
Again, Democrats and Progressives can wait for data, but when fellow Progressives point out the mistakes it would be wise to listen to them. Waiting for the data may be too late. The people living the data may not take kindly to being experimental toys.
The data is not hard to come by Dan. We know police budgets and we know the homicide rates.
 
That's way too long for my limited attention span. I notice it says it covers the years 2010-2015. That was a lifetime ago. Can you give me an edited version of what it says?
Dan the first thing on that page is an abstract. Read it.
 
The data is not hard to come by Dan. We know police budgets and we know the homicide rates.
I thank God I don't live in a crime-ridden neighborhood. Not yet, anyway. But if I did I would say the hell with the data, don't defund the police.
 
Dan the first thing on that page is an abstract. Read it.
I read the first page. I didn't read the study. The abstract doesn't really say anything much different from what the link I posted said. The difference as I see it is the link I posted was written by a guy that lived only a few blocks away from a neighborhood being shot up while his friend and her family were ducking for cover, while the paper you posted is data provided by academics whose neighborhoods have not been shot up. Sometimes it is best to go with lived reality, not the other way.
 
I read the first page. I didn't read the study. The abstract doesn't really say anything much different from what the link I posted said. The difference as I see it is the link I posted was written by a guy that lived only a few blocks away from a neighborhood being shot up while his friend and her family were ducking for cover, while the paper you posted is data provided by academics whose neighborhoods have not been shot up. Sometimes it is best to go with lived reality, not the other way.
The guy who got shot up lived in a city that increased police funding!

You missed this part? " We use structural equation modeling to estimate the simultaneous relationship between arrest and homicide rates between 2010 and 2015 in 53 large cities. We find no evidence of an effect of arrest rates on city homicide rates for any offense category for any year in this period, including 2015, the year of the spike in homicide levels."
 
The guy who got shot up lived in a city that increased police funding!

You missed this part? " We use structural equation modeling to estimate the simultaneous relationship between arrest and homicide rates between 2010 and 2015 in 53 large cities. We find no evidence of an effect of arrest rates on city homicide rates for any offense category for any year in this period, including 2015, the year of the spike in homicide levels."
If only "arrest rates" were the sole variable...
 
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If only "arrest rates" were the sole variable...
If the hypothesis is "The Ferguson riots reduced police interaction with criminal suspects which lead to an increase in homicides" I think arrest rates may not be the sole variable but it is certainly is sufficient to disprove the hypothesis.
 
If the hypothesis is "The Ferguson riots reduced police interaction with criminal suspects which lead to an increase in homicides" I think arrest rates may not be the sole variable but it is certainly is sufficient to disprove the hypothesis.
Is that actually the hypothesis?
 
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on what basis? gut feel?
Yes, gut feel. It would take only one time to see my family at risk to know I wouldn’t want to defund the police. I’m all for reform of things like qualified immunity and confiscation of property. But if I lived in a crime riddled neighborhood I would want the police to be on every street corner. So, yes, it’s a gut feel.
 
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