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Academia would rank one of their own fairly high. Shocking!
I've worn the same pair of underwear for longer than William Henry Harrison was actively President. The guy had like one official act in office. And he beats 5 others on the list.
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@HighStickHarry, too early to start?
Sorry pilt. I know this is a typo but the game is the game.
If the ranking is legit, I have a hard time understanding how trump has been able to cause so much trouble in such a short amount of time...I figured obamas legacy and greatness would have simply steamrolled all the racist, misogynist, Russia loving bs a novice could throw at it in a month.
As someone in the article pointed out, I guess time will tell...hopefully for America's sake #12 ends up being accurate.
As someone in the article pointed out, I guess time will tell...hopefully for America's sake #12 ends up being accurate.
On my meds tonight... a cran walnut coconut cookie. Should be more mellow.
He's ranked right below Wilson, who was an awful President and an even worse human being.
#3 on that list put American citizens in internment camps, i.e. prisons, because of their race. Think about that.
#3 on that list put American citizens in internment camps, i.e. prisons, because of their race. Think about that.
#2 on that list made slaves out of people because of their race. And not out of some misguided "national interest," but because it made him money.
In the 18th century, in a system of living he was born into. His will freed every slave that he was legally permitted to free.
FDR, conversely did his deed post slavery, just before mid 20th century.
Though he was wrong, FDR was at least trying to protect a nation.
#2's emancipation instincts manifested at the exact moment the slaves were of no more economic use to him.
So freaking hilarious to sit here and watch you justify internment of Japanese Americans but scream about the EO putting in place an immigration ban on individuals from certain countries.
What about "he was wrong" is subject to subjective interpretation? There you go -- just ignore the qualifier to establish a narrative. I'm no more guilty of "justifying" internment camps than Glove is of "justifying" slavery. Is it possible to have a civilized debate of Glove and my topic (FDR vs GW's relative shittiness) without being labeled as endorsing the behavior?
It's not hilarious for you to glibly breeze through the fact with FDR we were in the middle of A FREAKING WORLD WAR and now we are living in peace, fwiw. There's a little different sense of urgency.
Obama tightened up the immigration too -- he just did it without calling a presser, waving a flag and politicizing it, and he didn't %$#@ it up. I'm not against a POTUS taking a look and cinching down who comes in. But Biff grandstanded the EO, called a presser and took pictures, and unnecessarily perpetuated a stereotype (E1 from ___________ is a dangerous lunatic) of a large number of people, the vast majority want to be here, to enhance his popularity. I detest that to the point I'm even irritating myself.
I'm sorry you think radical Islam is of no threat.
Your position has been
FDR's internment of Japanese Americans = wrong but trying to protect the nation is well intentioned.
Trumps EO expanding immigration ban = Racism and bigotry, literally Hitler
It's a completely dishonest position. Trumps intention is the same as FDR's, trying to protect the nation and American lives.
I'm fine with a discussion over intent and the right or wrong. But the hyperbole we see over everything Trump and the hypocrisy you just displayed is hilarious. Sorry.
Again, you're putting words in my mouth. Everything from rabies, to killer bees, to radical islam, to prostate cancer poses a threat. It's not the same collective threat as a state of war against Nazi Germany and Japan.
That's where we disagree. His intention was to make a big splash and show that he's kicking ass just like a Biff would do. If his intent was truly to tighten it up and not grandstand, he would have taken his time and gotten it right. He undeniably emphasized optics over efficacy.
Frankly, the very idea that FDR is even an apt comparison to Biff's situation is laughable to me.
