Yeah but a significant segment of the left does in fact hate America.
I know you put the Winnie on there, but there are plenty on the right that wouldn’t.
On Antisemitism, Trump and Israel
- Thread starter Been Jammin
- Start date
I know you put the Winnie on there, but there are plenty on the right that wouldn’t.
Disagree. It’s abcnbccbscnnmsnbcnytwaponpr versus Fox News. If both did it equally Fox would have to have to be on the air 500 hours a day.
The divisions in this country are primarily the fault of the left media. I consume talking heads at an unhealthy rate, but I listen to lib news more than most libs.
I assume an argument is forthcoming? There isn’t a chance you’ve watched or listened to as much lib news as I have.
A nonsense statement doesn’t need much of a contrary argument.
Fox News has just as many viewers as CNN and MSNBC combined. You don’t factor in alternate media....which is as much responsible for the divide as MSM....at all.
That’s like holding The Beatles responsible for Charles Manson. There is no inverse correlation.
I’m certain of it. Maybe your obsessive focus on lib news skews your reality. Maybe it’s your viewpoint that the libs are the enemy that’s already made up your mind for you.
You purposely left off the three networks who get 10 million a night plus their web sights. What are your favorite conservative newspapers that whip shit up like the wapo and nyt? It’s not even close when it comes to main stream media. CNN is the equivalent to breitbart as far as bias. Equal in prominence?
Npr constantly talks about race. I mean all the freaking time. Some days I listen to it for six hours in the background. Almost always in the car. Is am 1020 with rush and Hannity the same thing?
You are way off on this and if you admit you haven’t done the empirical research like I have I will understand.
Libs are the enemy. I grew up in a dem family that has zero clue how or why the party has lost its marbles. Farmers, union iron workers, this is almost forty years of direct observation of these people. Talking listening. I’ve been obsessed before I knew I was obsessed. I watch cnn and msnbc because I got sick of the fox noise crap from people who couldn’t name anybody but Hannity and oreilly.
You’ve done “empirical research”? Lulz.
I listen to NPR a whole lot too. You characterization is dead wrong.
The fact is those on the left listen to the media sites that reinforce their confirmation bias and so do the MAGAers and extreme right.
Yes, Breitbart is equal in prominence for MAGAers....more so.
Think maybe your obsession is skewing your supposed “empirical” research?
Seems likely to me.
Just for the fun of it turned on kosu just now. Nazis are coming in the first 15 seconds. I’m not exaggerating.
Talking to my uncles who were so pro union they would literally fight rats and scabs in Las Vegas. They howled at George w bush and told me Clinton getting a bj was none of anybody’s business. They lived and breathed that party through the nineties and 2000’s. Both voted for Obama the first time, I’m not sure about the second time. It makes them sick to vote repub now but they do it based on the acceptance of the lunacy by the left.
There will be no condemnation of Farrakhan by dem leadership today. But yet I had to listen to how trump wasn’t fast enough with his one dozen condemnations of David Duke.
I’m applying an apt analogy. You my friend are ingesting toxic propaganda and trying to tell me that atusenetism is rampant and solely the responsibility of the GOP, because white supremacists exist. You are better than that.
No. I am telling you that antisemitism/white supremacists exist, in this country, and that almost all of them vote for republicans and are opposed to the Democratic party.
Why do you think they vote republican? How do you know this? And more importantly - why do they (assuming you are right)? Do they do it because they like republicans? The Pittsburgh shooter sure hated Trump/MAGA. Do you bother to plumb the question further?
Just because they hate democrats more than they hate republicans for whatever pointless reason, doesn’t make them the republicans’ problem. It’s bizarre that you still need this explained to you.
I’m not giving you 12 links.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...nald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/index.html
Oh, I don't know. Because it is common sense that White Supremacists would be in favor of a wall, ICE, ending birthright citizenship, the 2nd amendment, eliminating political correctness, etc.
This conversation started with discussion about why in the world Jews would support the Democratic party. I am explaining it to you.
You can argue as to whether or not the GOP should distance from White Supremacists, or are responsible for their actions, but that is a different topic than the one we started with.
You can’t honestly in your heart think Donald trump is a wannabe member of the Kkk. Have you not seen the pictures of the awards he won from the naacp and Jesse Jackson? You are pretty anti tinfoil but you think his racism just laid in wait so he could become president and carry on the klans wishes? It’s such a joke.
I support all those things and I loathe white suprenacists. See how that works? There is no inverse relationship. Period.
Once again. The question was, "Why would American Jews support the Democratic party over the GOP?" I have explained to you one compelling reason (there are other reasons).
Your personal views are irrelevant. I never said that all GOP are White Supremacists. I never said that all GOP embrace the White Supremacists.
I am a Democrat. I loathe Antifa. Does that mean that you and your compadres are going to stop whipping with us with "But Antifa !" posts from now on?
Upcoming story. How white supremecists are targeting video gamers. This story probably impacts tens of people.
I heard the music for the next show through my headphones so I plugged in kind of forgetting our back and forth and it took ten seconds this time.
Bet Angela Davis, members of The SLA or the Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and members of other such groups never voted Republican.
This is an argument that could go on on forever....do white suprimisist vote R (and to know at what levels is impossible as I would be shocked if they voted at all) because their beliefs align with the GOP? If you think they do then probably nothing I say past that will change your perspective.
Conversely does ANTIFA, communist/socialist, hard core liberals and the likes vote D because their beliefs align with the Deocratic party? Again without any empirical evidence how can one know/assume it’s true in one case but not see the same dynamic in the other.
News is not news anymore, as portrayed by the imbeciles on the tube. It is virtually all commentary with twists and spin to prove your opinion is just, righteous and how it outta be while the other side are a bunch of crazed, out of touch and dangerous interlopers. Both sides do this and politicians are the lowest form of this culture.
I stated originally about the YouTube vid. That lady acted like knowing some of the deceased gives her some type of unique insight, but where does her radar fall on those of us killed in flyover country (an area they disdain)? Well we’re just a bunch of redneck hillbillies so not her, not Bill M, nor the NYT or anyone else cares when we get popped, we’ll unless it’s a white cop shootings a minority. She is an opinion writer for the NYT, right? Is her opinion valid because you agree with it or is it not valid because I don’t? Here is one fact....the NYT never sent an opinion writer to the airwaves when Mollie Tibbits was murdered by an illegal, nor did they send one on the airwaves when Kate Steinle (was murdered by an illegal), nor do they write articles or send people to the airwaves when this came out,
PJ Media obtained a never-before-released copy of a Texas DPS report on human smuggling containing the numbers of crimes committed by aliens in Texas. According to the analysis conducted by the Texas Department of Public Safety, foreign aliens committed 611,234 unique crimes in Texas from 2008 to 2014, including thousands of homicides and sexual assaults.
Hers and her employers selective outrage is pretty sad, but it’s worse they don’t treat every death like she treated those at the synagogue by native born losers which there is virtually no way to stop and illegal criminal committed which there is. Do people mourn more because the killed are by a so called right wing nutcase but less so because an illegal nutcase killed someone else? Her article/appearance was too timely, too one sided and a veiled campaign punch for everyone who believes what she said. Yet over half the country doesn’t see it that way.
Just don’t see how Trumps election has resulted in a need to refresh “the tree of liberty,” of how suddenly everyone is not treated “fairly under the law,” etc.
There are people on this board that are extremely good at turning the ball around to look at things from all different angles. But the reality is until we hold “our own” to the standard we hold the “other guy,” The newspapers masquerading as news and the politicians are going to continue to throw us bones to pick over and fight about and nothing will change.
Now I’m going to go hold all my dogs paws and sing Kumbya.
Last edited:
Turned it back again...no Nazis. Musician interview on KOSU. Turned NPR on my satellite radio...no race talk or Nazis.
Again....here is what you claimed your “empirical research” has shown you.
And again, you are wildly exaggerating.
Did you buy extras to give away as X-mas gifts?
I'm just kidding.
Edit: I read your post as "on sale right now". My bad.
Last edited:
I honestly don’t get offended on this forum. Not hardly ever, but the fact that you think you have to tell me you are just kidding really pisses me off.
Just kidding, but come on know your audience.
Mainly, I didn't want others accusing me of calling you a Nazi. I reserve that for only 1 member of this forum. Didn't want to dilute the message.
