October Surprise.

[Headhunter]

It's very obvious.

President Obama will begin hammering ISIS in Syria in October with air power. It's the right thing to do but the sad part is he's doing it to boost his ratings and help Democrats avoid disaster in November.

Total Clinton move.

 

[Headhunter]

Okay, he didn't wait until October. Again this needed to be done but I don't have any doubt that public opinion is driving this.

 

[Headhunter]

Arab countries involved. I'm going to give the President credit on this, good job.

I didn't know about any of this until after my first post.





This post was edited on 9/22 8:35 PM by Headhunter

 

[windriverrange]

Headhunter, the problem with doing it now instead of back when, say 2012 is that they have consolidated their power and run amuck across the borders. He will never build the coalition that the laughed at "W" built and air power/missles alone won't denude them as much as will be needed. The irony is we are now helping Assad.....

Not sure how much this will help in November because hard core libs will loath this move. Might actually hurt Hilldabeast in the long run. We shall see though. What you absolutely know is that through whatever channels he needed to take he got permission from Syria, because they have a real air defense capability and without permission the US jets would suffer some losses. Something he absolutely can't afford to have splattered across the newspaper.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Head, can you please tell me which Arab countries are involved, and to what extent?

If you don't name them it is pointless to even state "Arab countries are involved".

 

[OSUDirt]

Originally posted by Tulsaaggieson:

Head, can you please tell me which Arab countries are involved, and to what extent?

If you don't name them it is pointless to even state "Arab countries are involved".

This is who Obama named:

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Bahrain and Qatar.

All but Qatar actually launched airstrikes. Qatar played a supporting role.

This post was edited on 9/23 1:44 PM by OSUDirt

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Thanks Dirt.

 

[gulfshorespoke]

That's all semantics. We are doing it all but they flew jets so I'll give them that. This thing is a joke. Troops on the ground and pounce them. When it is done leave some there like we have most everywhere to prevent this from happening again.

 

[Ostatedchi]

What will be the real mistake would be to start arming and training Syrian 'rebels'. As soon as we give them arms, they'll use them against our interests.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

I still think that arming the Kurds is the best possible solution. Tell them to take Syria to the Med, and Allepo, and give them Northern Iraq, and voila you have a country you can deal with. It wont be perfect, but its the best solution to a messy situation, and they have been moderate to Christians as well.

I would like for the Pentagon to lay out what exactly these Arab coalition member did, and how much they are helping. Jordan and Saudi have the most to fear from ISIS of any ME country, but I wouldn't trust the Saudi's to be competent enough to complete a mission. The Jordanians are capable enough, but Bahrain, and Qatar are not much better than Saudi if they are at all.

 

[JimmyBob]

Originally posted by Ostatedchi:
What will be the real mistake would be to start arming and training Syrian 'rebels'. As soon as we give them arms, they'll use them against our interests.


Sadly, this is a political response. Arming//training Syrian "rebels" at this stage is another "straw man", among the many. The world knows he'll cut and run after the first casualty, long before we'll get anyone trained.

 

[OSUIvan]

Originally posted by OSUDirt:

Originally posted by Tulsaaggieson:

Head, can you please tell me which Arab countries are involved, and to what extent?

If you don't name them it is pointless to even state "Arab countries are involved".

This is who Obama named:

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Jordan, Bahrain and Qatar.

All but Qatar actually launched airstrikes. Qatar played a supporting role.

This post was edited on 9/23 1:44 PM by OSUDirt

More specifically, SA, UAE, Jordan, Bahrain bombed sites with the USA, Qatar provided air support.

Another note, F22's were deployed in a combat role for the first time, that kind of surprised me but I guess we haven't needed air support since the start of the Iraq war.

 

[OSUIvan]

Originally posted by Ostatedchi:
What will be the real mistake would be to start arming and training Syrian 'rebels'. As soon as we give them arms, they'll use them against our interests.

There was an Admiral on TV yesterday morning saying that it will take 18 months to fully arm and train the rebels; not to mention they will mean that said rebels will have to be taken away from their fight to train. 18 months... so we're going to bomb them for a year and a half while we wait for rebels to be trained I guess.

 

[Tulsaaggieson]

Once again the Kurds pose the best solution as they are mostly trained and ready to fight.
This post was edited on 9/24 12:48 PM by Tulsaaggieson

 

[Syskatine]

Once again the Kurds pose the best solution as they are mostly trained and ready to fight.
This post was edited on 9/24 12:48 PM by Tulsaaggieson

So any sujpplement to this 5 years later?

 

[MegaPoke]

sujpplement

 

[Syskatine]

Oh man, a typo.

You finally got me man. Congrats.

 

[MegaPoke]

Oh man, a typo.

You finally got me man. Congrats.

It's a funny typo! Like covfefe.