nunez memo
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When Trump promised winning, who knew he meant he would sink the whole democrat party? Gosh I like this kinda winning.
Better to post the actual memo than rely on reporters to tell us what's in it.
Points to take from memo
-no warrant without dossier
-dossier paid by DNC/Clinton campaign
-Steele tells Ohr he doesn’t want Trump President
-Ohr’s wife works for Fusion GPS
If you change DNC to RNC and Trump for Clinton, those involved would have already been charged with some federal crime and we would be hearing every day that Trump sabotaged the political process.
But Trump colluded with the Russians.
-no warrant without dossier
-dossier paid by DNC/Clinton campaign
-Steele tells Ohr he doesn’t want Trump President
-Ohr’s wife works for Fusion GPS
If you change DNC to RNC and Trump for Clinton, those involved would have already been charged with some federal crime and we would be hearing every day that Trump sabotaged the political process.
But Trump colluded with the Russians.
Imagine if unelected Bush administration bureaucrats had done this to Obama in 2007....
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The epitome of the establishment swamp. Asshole.
Remember:
This report only scratches the surface of the various investigations (Inspector General, Uranium One, Clinton Foundation etc).
A lot of the people and actions in the dossier were well documented in alternative media for many months (and posted on this board).
So this isn't new information to a lot of us.
But its official verification and validation from brave congressman who are finally stepping up and doing their jobs.
This report only scratches the surface of the various investigations (Inspector General, Uranium One, Clinton Foundation etc).
A lot of the people and actions in the dossier were well documented in alternative media for many months (and posted on this board).
So this isn't new information to a lot of us.
But its official verification and validation from brave congressman who are finally stepping up and doing their jobs.
#4 page 3, all you need to know about what a sham this investigation is.
Maybe I'm missing something, but what I just read seems like an incredibly low bar to establish probable cause within the FISA court to begin spying on an American citizen.
To me, that is a big deal.
To me, that is a big deal.
I'll be honest, I thought this was going to be a big nothing burger. From the little I have read it is pretty damning. Sadly I think much of this will be glossed over by the MSM and beyond Fox News and some folks on twitter I don't think this will get near the play that it should.
Does anyone want to point out to me what the liberals think would harm national security in this memo?
National security=The corrupt Democratic Party political apparatus that clearly includes our nation's Justice Department
Hope that helps.
It's quite clear that Obama and the Democrats weaponized our federal government against any opposition. Federal agencies, the DOJ, the IRS, and almost the judiciary...
Anyone who believes this shit occurred because of Trump is living in a fantasy world. This level of corruption would have been used against any political opponent who ran against Hillary. Hillary was the person needed to pour the last layer of concrete over all of the corruption that had been installed during the previous 8 years. Trump only caused them to get extremely sloppy.
Anyone who believes this shit occurred because of Trump is living in a fantasy world. This level of corruption would have been used against any political opponent who ran against Hillary. Hillary was the person needed to pour the last layer of concrete over all of the corruption that had been installed during the previous 8 years. Trump only caused them to get extremely sloppy.
I'm still unclear of what about Page meeting with Pappadopoulos would trigger an investigation into Pappadopoulos. I don't know what normally triggers a counter intelligence investigation, was it just because Page was a volunteer on Trumps campaign pertaining to foreign relations? Were there other investigations into other individuals as well?
What the memo alleges:
- The dossier authored by Christopher Steele was "an essential part" of the FBI and the Justice Department's justification for conducting electronic surveillance of Carter Page. It also notes the dossier was funded by the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign.
- Steele said he was "desperate that Donald Trump not get elected."
- This "clear evidence of Steele's bias" wasn't reflected in any of the applications to authorize the electronic surveillance.
Hell I've been asking and screaming on here for weeks now... "What's the significance of the dossier? There was law enforcement wiretapping of Biff's inner circle waaay before the Steele dossier.
Right? Like, if facts come to them in broad daylight and they're publicized they're not supposed to consider them. That runs afoul of the time-honored wingnut strategy that the bigger and more widely spread the lie, the more apt it will be believed. Shame on them for not ignoring obvious information right in front of them.
Might of missed it sys but where does it say Page was being wire tapped in 2014 in the memo? If it's there I really didn't see it but I easily could have missed it.
The problem I have with them using the Yahoo article as justification is how little verification (or no verification since they knew where the lies were coming from). It would be like Trump hitting the nuke button based on just the Hawaiian moron who just sent out the wrong info.
Not sure it does anything to the Russian probe but I do think it's pretty daming to the folks involved in the FISA warrants and more than likely the whole Russian probe never happens and wastes all our time. The Russian probe to this point has been a big ball of nothing.
The problem I have with them using the Yahoo article as justification is how little verification (or no verification since they knew where the lies were coming from). It would be like Trump hitting the nuke button based on just the Hawaiian moron who just sent out the wrong info.
Not sure it does anything to the Russian probe but I do think it's pretty daming to the folks involved in the FISA warrants and more than likely the whole Russian probe never happens and wastes all our time. The Russian probe to this point has been a big ball of nothing.
Probable cause isn’t an exceedingly high standard of proof.
Yahoo got their information from Steele, the guy who told the FBI he was "desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president."
You stated that, but I just wanted to repeat it because of how absurd that reality is.
There was one factual representation in the dossier...they spelled Trump's name correctly.
Nothing at all. It's a press release, nothing.
It totally ignores what facts were actually presented, what was discovered, and years of prior years of the the FBI was investigating Page and Manaforte.
It doesn't. The memo completely leaves out any other information or background on Page. I don't have time to research it, but here's a blurb from slate (which is iffy source, imo) Summer 2014. The FBI [URL='https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.47dde52d85e0']begins monitoring Page’s communications under a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant, owing to his 2013 contacts with Russian operatives.[/URL]
That cites to the WaPo (credible, imo):
Three years before Page became an adviser to the Trump campaign, he came to the attention of FBI counterintelligence agents, who learned that Russian spy suspects had sought to use Page as a source for information.
In that case, one of the Russian suspects, Victor Podobnyy — who was posing as a diplomat and was later charged by federal prosecutors with acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government — was captured on tape in 2013 discussing an effort to get information and documents from Page. That discussion was detailed in a federal complaint filed against Podobnyy and two others. The court documents in that spy case only identify Page as “Male 1.’’ Officials familiar with the case said that “Male 1’’ is Page.
://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.0285f3f8e196
The slate article says it, but their source to the WaPo says there were recordings that implicated Page (and interviews of him) but it doesn't specifically say that PAGE was the TARGET back then. I've seen that somewhere but don't have time to nail it down.
Point is, that "memo" is pretty brazen in leaving out all the intel and suspiciion Page attracted before Biff ever entered the picture.
Worse than Watergate. Only difference now is the press is carrying water for the Dems.
Lol...mmmkay. Conservatives be whiny little babies in this thread. There is nothing in that memo haha.
Carry on.
Well, hitting a nuke button based on hearsay would be a bit much... but probable cause to see if a Russian agent has compromised the U.S. government or a presidential campaign is a different analysis for pretty obvious reasons.
Edit: I read the memo. LOL what a puff piece. It doesn't say what else was provided or considered. Why does it focus on solely that one slice of the information presented in support? There were apparently 1 original and 3 subsequent applications presented, what else was tendered?
Why would they not just release all of the entire FISA applications for a warrant against Page? Are they for transparency or not? Talk about incomplete and selective....
I can't believe the dumbasses stoked this up and then released that. WIle E. Coyote part XVII
Keep telling yourself that fatso.
I'd be furious at what these criminals have been doing to the Democratic party if I were you.
If you presume this is the application in it's entirety. Does that seem right to you?
