"At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores."
NSA records 80% of calls?
NSA records 80% of calls?
NSA -- Wow.
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Sys, I think we can all agree on this topic, which is crazy that it still goes on.
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If anything can unite the people (Dems, reps, libertarians, progressives, cons, libs, etc) it should be this. Unfortunately, sheep don't care. Bc, "why do I care if someone's listening? I'm not doing anything wrong."
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I think it's pretty easy to get if not approval, then at least acceptance of these privacy intrusions because the media and right wing has done such a good job of teaching fear. Old fashioned cool bravery used to be a virtue -- now alarmism and shrill anxiety at perceived threats are the norm in the media and political dialogue. Scared people agree to lots of things they wouldn't otherwise.
Take Iraq -- mushroom clouds! WMD's!! 911!! Read my signature -- that panicy reaction has been so taught and legitimized that it's common. I don't think a man in 1950 would publicly express that kind of fear, as we just used to be much tougher and not prone to anxiety attacks. I dunno-- I was just raised around a bunch of vets that wouldn't have acted so afraid and anxious over, well, anything. Maybe I'm just getting old and sensibilities have changed.
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Take Iraq -- mushroom clouds! WMD's!! 911!! Read my signature -- that panicy reaction has been so taught and legitimized that it's common. I don't think a man in 1950 would publicly express that kind of fear, as we just used to be much tougher and not prone to anxiety attacks. I dunno-- I was just raised around a bunch of vets that wouldn't have acted so afraid and anxious over, well, anything. Maybe I'm just getting old and sensibilities have changed.
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Sys, the GOP doesn't own a patent on fear mongering. Mediscare, war on women, etc is the way Dems campaign.
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No dispute here. The dems don't convince people to hoard guns and ammo and scream about revolution though. I think comparing the fears of getting vaporized with a nuclear weapon vs. a medicare cut are sure different in degree though.
I think you are greatly overestimating the men of the 1950's. We have and always will be a punch of idiots.
OK, a ray of common sense followed by more partisan team bullshit.
Do you really not understand that BOTH parties play fear politics toward the same end? More centralized power. Less personal freedom. Both use fear tactics to motivate people towards supporting a massive central federal government and then cry like little bitches when the other side does it - you know, to keep up appearances.
Hell I will even allow for the possibility that both liberals and neocons *think* they are doing something good by expanding the government the way they want to and not the way the other guy wants to - but you get a shitty president in office for 8 years at a whack followed by the other guys' shitty president for another 8 years and guess what? It grows in every conceivable direction.
Wise up. Your team sucks as much as theirs.
Do you really not understand that BOTH parties play fear politics toward the same end? More centralized power. Less personal freedom. Both use fear tactics to motivate people towards supporting a massive central federal government and then cry like little bitches when the other side does it - you know, to keep up appearances.
Hell I will even allow for the possibility that both liberals and neocons *think* they are doing something good by expanding the government the way they want to and not the way the other guy wants to - but you get a shitty president in office for 8 years at a whack followed by the other guys' shitty president for another 8 years and guess what? It grows in every conceivable direction.
Wise up. Your team sucks as much as theirs.
There times mega I just want to slap you on the back and just say right on. This is one of those.
I know what you mean. Sometimes I high five myself though, so consider my back slapped.
Naturally though, Sys has nothing left to say on this thread and has moved on. Oh well..
