NFL-TNF and National Anthem

[aix_xpert]

I live in Tampa so I've been watching the pre-game of tonight's football game. I noticed they went to commercial break during the National Anthem and came back from break just as they were refolding the field sized flag. Has this always been the case, or is this an adjustment to avoid the controversy (either the protests and the counter-protests/boos).

 

[osu_orangestreak]

That is the norm. Other networks have recently started showing it because of the controversy.

I am hearing that Nick Folk took a knee, spit on the flag and then burned one before the game.

 

[JonnyVito]

The NFL just made it policy or the TV networks just made it policy that they will not show the national anthem on TV before the games. They basically took a cheap way out of all this controversy.

 

[aix_xpert]

The NFL just made it policy or the TV networks just made it policy that they will not show the national anthem on TV before the games. They basically took a cheap way out of all this controversy.

I guess that's what I was asking. Did they figure if they don't show it on TV then they can ignore it? Its actually an interesting dilemma for the league. On one hand, they have their employees (the players) who are mostly united on the 'it's ok to kneel' side, whereas their primary customer (the fans) have a lot of alignment to things like MAGA, support the troops and the troopers, etc. But before I judged if they took the 'easy' way out and just avoided showing it, I was curious if other recall if it was normally showed on TNF? I don't always watch TNF, but I thought it was usually showed on the different primetime broadcasts, but I noticed that it hadn't been last night. So was looking for a other's recollection about whether showing or skipping was the 'normal' broadcast behavior.

 

[JonnyVito]

I guess that's what I was asking. Did they figure if they don't show it on TV then they can ignore it? Its actually an interesting dilemma for the league. On one hand, they have their employees (the players) who are mostly united on the 'it's ok to kneel' side, whereas their primary customer (the fans) have a lot of alignment to things like MAGA, support the troops and the troopers, etc. But before I judged if they took the 'easy' way out and just avoided showing it, I was curious if other recall if it was normally showed on TNF? I don't always watch TNF, but I thought it was usually showed on the different primetime broadcasts, but I noticed that it hadn't been last night. So was looking for a other's recollection about whether showing or skipping was the 'normal' broadcast behavior.

I know for sure this is a new policy because I just heard either on the radio or by news articles that they just implemented this policy. Last night was the first game since they came out and said they wouldn't broadcast the anthem.

 

[wino]

That is the norm. Other networks have recently started showing it because of the controversy.

I can't recall many regular season national anthems being televised prior to last year outside of the Thanksgiving games. Maybe opening night? Usually you get the studio show right up to game time, then to the announcers in the booth, then to kickoff.

Same for NBA/MLB, they historically haven't televised it unless it's the All-Star game or the playoffs.

 

[aix_xpert]

I can't recall many regular season national anthems being televised prior to last year outside of the Thanksgiving games. Maybe opening night? Usually you get the studio show right up to game time, then to the announcers in the booth, then to kickoff.

Same for NBA/MLB, they historically haven't televised it unless it's the All-Star game or the playoffs.

Sunday night football usually shows it, or I seem to recall that they did. Wasn't sure if Thursday or Monday night football did. That was actually the gist of my original question. Whether TNF not showing it was normal or changed behavior.

 

[CowboyUp]

America's team--Jones ups the ante

http://newsok.com/jerry-jones-gives...nd-for-anthem-or-sit-for-game/article/5567290

Must be pissed they got beat

Now what happens if players say "we'll be taking a knee--each holding a small flag--all of us"...?

Could go nuclear real fast

 

[imprimis]

The past several Sundays, as well as MNF and TNF, without NFL football has fried up lots of time for me to whittle down my "to do" list.

 

[Headhunter]

America's team--Jones ups the ante

http://newsok.com/jerry-jones-gives...nd-for-anthem-or-sit-for-game/article/5567290

Must be pissed they got beat

Now what happens if players say "we'll be taking a knee--each holding a small flag--all of us"...?

Could go nuclear real fast

Pretty sure he was saying he'd be willing to cancel the game if the team protests. Let these guys start missing game checks and you'll see a whole new attitude.

 

[OKSTATE1]

The owners and the league pay for the air time, so they can tell the networks to cover whatever they want.

If the players have some sort of representative voice that is meaningful to people in this country, then the networks and their advertisers should have no problem paying for press conferences on the players time and dime, than on the owners time and dime. This is what I do not understand, the owners are paying for football to be televised, not protests. Owners deserve what they got because they are weak sticks. Jerry Jones gets it.

 

[07pilt]

The owners and the league pay for the air time, so they can tell the networks to cover whatever they want.

If the players have some sort of representative voice that is meaningful to people in this country, then the networks and their advertisers should have no problem paying for press conferences on the players time and dime, than on the owners time and dime. This is what I do not understand, the owners are paying for football to be televised, not protests. Owners deserve what they got because they are weak sticks. Jerry Jones gets it.

Owners pay to have football televised? This is news to me.

 

[OKSTATE1]

Owners pay to have football televised? This is news to me.

They owners are the league, correct? The league contracts with the networks, correct? You telling me these owners that have millions
invested in their franchise signed over television rights with no intention of football being televised? Or knew nothing on content?

I hope that was in blue.

 

[wino]

They owners are the league, correct? The league contracts with the networks, correct? You telling me these owners that have millions
invested in their franchise signed over television rights with no intention of football being televised? Or the content?

I hope that was in blue.

That's called owners GETTING PAID to televise their games...not PAYING FOR their games to be televised.

Didn't realize it was that complicated.

 

[07pilt]

They owners are the league, correct? The league contracts with the networks, correct? You telling me these owners that have millions
invested in their franchise signed over television rights with no intention of football being televised? Or knew nothing on content?

I hope that was in blue.

My understanding is that the networks pay the owners, not the other way around.

 

[wino]

My understanding is that the networks pay the owners, not the other way around.

You'd be correct, AFAIK.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

The owners and the league pay for the air time,

And Donald Trump wants to serve.

 

[OKSTATE1]

My understanding is that the networks pay the owners, not the other way around.

There is consideration in the contract from both sides or you do not have an enforceable contract.
I can guarantee they have some control over content, and they can also enforce this bad behavior thru their player contracts and league rules, the owners just have been weak sticks.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

The owners and the league pay for the air time, so they can tell the networks to cover whatever they want.

If the players have some sort of representative voice that is meaningful to people in this country, then the networks and their advertisers should have no problem paying for press conferences on the players time and dime, than on the owners time and dime. This is what I do not understand, the owners are paying for football to be televised, not protests. Owners deserve what they got because they are weak sticks. Jerry Jones gets it.

LOL now we see how these conservative opinons are formed. Start with making up a fact because it fits in with the desired narrative....

 

[07pilt]

There is consideration in the contract from both sides or you do not have an enforceable contract.

You are right here. But, I believe the consideration the owners provide is the right to broadcast NFL games.

 

[wino]

There is consideration in the contract from both sides or you do not have an enforceable contract.
I can guarantee they have some control over content, and they can also enforce this bad behavior thru their player contracts and league rules, the owners just have been weak sticks.

Current contract runs through 2021-22. Can't imagine there's a clause in the current deal specifying what the TV partners can or cannot televise, so long as it happens inside the stadium in full view of the cameras. I could see locker rooms being off limits for certain periods without individual team approval. So, good luck with that.