Nanny State Campus Madness Expanding Apace
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Goes along with the article posted in another thread about USCal mandating that students answer questions about their sexual activities/history before being allowed to register for classes.
Would love to have had that job reviewing the responses.
Would love to have had that job reviewing the responses.
I had a third-year medical student under my watch (who was also enrolled in and almost done with a MBA program) in April of 2015. Great guy and student. He had met a first-year medical student in August 2014. They had hung out twice that month and had sex both times. After that they did not hang out again but would text each other a couple of times a month. In May of 2015 he was notified that the girl had brought charges of sexual assault against him before the university's council of student conduct that month. She did not file charges with the police. He had a "hearing" shortly afterwards and was expelled from the university, meaning he was kicked out of med school and the MBA program. He described the hearing as a "kangaroo court." His life is literally ruin as he has well over $150,000 in student loans. The motive for this girl's complaint against him appears to be that she flunked a couple of classes in med school and used this excuse to not be kicked out and to have the opportunity to repeat her first year of medical school. She reportedly was very open about telling people that she flunked because she was "assaulted."
The guy has a lawyer and is going to sue but that will take a lot of money and likely years.
Just a really messed up situation.
The guy has a lawyer and is going to sue but that will take a lot of money and likely years.
Just a really messed up situation.
That's just sick, but sadly fits the "victim mentality" that permeates our society. He's screwed, period; she lives in la-la-land and has no conscience about her actions.
It's a definite must to do some study before pursuing relations with a lady. I happen to agree with this guys assessment.
How does it work when both are the same gender? Who gets to claim the victim role?
NOW he lawyers up?!? Why would an MBA and medical student not have a lawyer when there's a hearing to kick him out of school?
These campus courts don't allow the defendant to have a lawyer. Crazy right? Her word against his and that's it.
Some universities are hiring retired judges to run these hearings: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/06/30/colleges-turning-judges-campus-sexual-assault-cases.
Under Title IX, schools are required to have their own grievance process. Administrators fear that allowing attorneys into the process would cause them to violate the Title IX requirement for a prompt reaction to sexual assault. The Title-IX-mandated grievance process also only requires reasonable evidence, a much lower bar than criminal court cases.
Sexual assault is a serious issue on campus--it's not just people being sensitive. But the current grievance procedure probably isn't helping things on most campuses.
Under Title IX, schools are required to have their own grievance process. Administrators fear that allowing attorneys into the process would cause them to violate the Title IX requirement for a prompt reaction to sexual assault. The Title-IX-mandated grievance process also only requires reasonable evidence, a much lower bar than criminal court cases.
Sexual assault is a serious issue on campus--it's not just people being sensitive. But the current grievance procedure probably isn't helping things on most campuses.
The notion that sexual assault on college campuses is a more significant problem than in society as a whole was made up wholly out of cloth by the Salem Witch Trial like frenzy whipped up by an entirely false story in the Rolling Stone about a made up incident on the UVa campus, leading to numerous other false stories and grandstanding by (mostly) Democrat elected officials and spineless administrators within the academy.
The idea that someone should be able to have their life ruined without due process simply as a result of their status as a college student and gender is wholly abhorrent on its face.
How is any reasonable person either "for" sexual assault or "against" due process of the accused?
I was unaware this topic has degenerated into a partisan issue. Who has made it a partisan issue?
You don't get out much, do you? Or pay attention to the subject matter in threads you post in.
And your comment as to how is someone " "for" sexual assault" is a complete non-sequitur.
I thought you guys were against government getting involved in private commerce? TU is private, now you want some gub'mint regulation over TU?
Are you suggesting that TU isn't already highly regulated by the federal government?
Good. The only thing, if any, that might get these politically correct nimrods attention is a severe monetary penalty. Too bad this person didn't sue the professor/administrators individually. It seems like it's a daily occurrence that we read about other educational institutions trampling on the civil rights of students or their free speech rights.
I would assume they are. So you're for or against more regulation of that private institution? Specifically, they have to also honor the 1st amendment?
No. I want TU to follow their established procedures and rules or face financial consequences. As an institution of higher learning they should, as a matter of course, adhere to a standard (at least) as high as that which is applicable to society as a whole. There should be a duty to ensure that any disciplinary situation isn't dealt with in an arbitrary and capricious manner.
I agree with that, Glove. But they're obviously not going to do that. So are you for or against government intervention with UT, telling them they have to provide constitutional protections as a private entity?
