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Anyone have one? Are they worth the purchase? Or should I just get a Lenovo or HP laptop?
 
I’d buy a Dell if you’re looking at a business class laptop. Depends how much you want to spend. I would suggest a surfacebook if you’re going that route and would go with a surfacebook over the other two alternatives you listed.

I bought an XPS 13 with touchscreen and love it. If I was buying now I’d probably go with the new 7000 series.

One problem I have with Lenovo is the quality of charging adapter/port. A lot of my business customers have had issues with those.

We just won the 1:1 bid at Hennessey high school with Dell vs another vendor pushing Lenovo and that issue was a factor in the decision.
 
My wife runs a small at home business but all it requires is some excel files. Rest will be every day stuff.
 
Dell business class laptops are garbage. I work in a corporate environment with Dell's as our only provider and they have been nothing, but trash. We have received multiple units DOA, horrible BIOS revisions, terrible Pro Support. We have 5000 series and 7000 series units and both lines (regardless of models) have been problematic.

Lenovo business class laptops have always been my favorite with HP being not far behind in quality.
 
The HP envy seems like the best value. The surface is on sale right now but you have to buy the damn keyboard extra for another 160 bucks. And go figure that the damn Microsoft made computer does not include office
 
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One complaint I haven't had with Dell is there Surface equivalent Latitude 5285. We recently purchased several for testing and they are pretty slick.
 
Dell business class laptops are garbage. I work in a corporate environment with Dell's as our only provider and they have been nothing, but trash. We have received multiple units DOA, horrible BIOS revisions, terrible Pro Support. We have 5000 series and 7000 series units and both lines (regardless of models) have been problematic.

Lenovo business class laptops have always been my favorite with HP being not far behind in quality.

We just went from HP to Dell (7000 series). I got one of the last HPs before rolling out and I’m not disappointed. Nearly half of the first wave of 20 rolled out have had issues.
 
You’ve had a bad experience with the Lattitudes? I don’t care for the Inspirons but the Lattitude has been pretty consistently the best quality “PC” in my experience. I believe Apple makes the best quality laptop, but it’s a Mac and that doesn’t always work for some people, and you pay a premium for it.

(EvilPokes, you should be buying them from me! )


I do like the design of the HP spectre x360 though.


Also, get office 365 instead of buying office.
 
You’ve had a bad experience with the Lattitudes? I don’t care for the Inspirons but the Lattitude has been pretty consistently the best quality “PC” in my experience. I believe Apple makes the best quality laptop, but it’s a Mac and that doesn’t always work for some people, and you pay a premium for it.

(EvilPokes, you should be buying them from me! )


I do like the design of the HP spectre x360 though.


Also, get office 365 instead of buying office.
We have a corporate agreement with Dell. And, yes we have had a horrible experience with the Latitude series, particularly the 7000 series. We purchase a batch of 20 or so when we originally switched from the 5k to the 7ks. Out of the lot, I remember 5 or 6 being DOA .several others needed motherboards within 6 months and I remember one not even having the LCD plugged in to the MB...all that crap passed QC somehow. Then dealing with Pro Support is like pulling teeth, luckily we then went with Tech Direct and we're able to do many of the repairs ourselves .still a pain in the ass .

Now we are on the 7480s and so far they've been ok, although shit bios made the tpm take a shit and having to troubleshoot that was a giant hassle.
 
Anyone have one? Are they worth the purchase? Or should I just get a Lenovo or HP laptop?
Used HP at my previous employer and Dell at my current one and haven't had any major issues with either, although I'm not sure off the top of my head which series of Dells we use. I'll throw a vote for Asus into the mix though.

I'm no IT person so take this with a grain of salt, but I would definitely recommend Windows 7 over Windows 8 or 10 if you have a choice.
 
You’ve had a bad experience with the Lattitudes? I don’t care for the Inspirons but the Lattitude has been pretty consistently the best quality “PC” in my experience. I believe Apple makes the best quality laptop, but it’s a Mac and that doesn’t always work for some people, and you pay a premium for it.

(EvilPokes, you should be buying them from me! )


I do like the design of the HP spectre x360 though.


Also, get office 365 instead of buying office.

I just got an HP Spectre x360 13" at Christmas for home use. I love it.

My company is a Dell shop but I'm going to try and figure out how get one of those as my next business laptop. It won't be easy but priced just over $1k it's cheaper than most of the Dell options we have.
 
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We just got HP Elitebooks. Super fast and they weight nothing which is great for the traveler. Had a Lenovo Brick lad before. Nice computer but it weighed 75lbs
 
Dell business class laptops are garbage. I work in a corporate environment with Dell's as our only provider and they have been nothing, but trash. We have received multiple units DOA, horrible BIOS revisions, terrible Pro Support. We have 5000 series and 7000 series units and both lines (regardless of models) have been problematic.

Lenovo business class laptops have always been my favorite with HP being not far behind in quality.

I disagree, we just changed to HP at our enterprise and I wish I had my Dell back. We tested Lenovo a few years back and our enterprise rep support was crap and their support page/drivers are shit.
 
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At this point, I guess we can all agree this is "luck of the draw". All have their positives and negatives.
 
We have a corporate agreement with Dell. And, yes we have had a horrible experience with the Latitude series, particularly the 7000 series. We purchase a batch of 20 or so when we originally switched from the 5k to the 7ks. Out of the lot, I remember 5 or 6 being DOA .several others needed motherboards within 6 months and I remember one not even having the LCD plugged in to the MB...all that crap passed QC somehow. Then dealing with Pro Support is like pulling teeth, luckily we then went with Tech Direct and we're able to do many of the repairs ourselves .still a pain in the ass .

Now we are on the 7480s and so far they've been ok, although shit bios made the tpm take a shit and having to troubleshoot that was a giant hassle.

I’d lose my mind if my customer ordered Dell through me and had ANY of those issues.

I’d guess we are around 1,000 Dell client devices to date this year and knock on wood we haven’t had a single issue (save for my own XPS having an issue with DDPE that was a personal nightmare).

About to deploy 720 3189 chromebooks so we’ll have to see if anything pops up with those.
 
I’d lose my mind if my customer ordered Dell through me and had ANY of those issues.

I’d guess we are around 1,000 Dell client devices to date this year and knock on wood we haven’t had a single issue (save for my own XPS having an issue with DDPE that was a personal nightmare).

About to deploy 720 3189 chromebooks so we’ll have to see if anything pops up with those.

We dropped DDPE in favor of Bitlocker last year.
 
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And this is where our biggest issues with Dell have been, Bitlocker. We have had multiple BIOS revisions that either A.) upgrade the TPM to a level incompatible with the hardware, B.) Completely nullifies the ability to unsuspend Bitlocker after a BIOS update (with the only solution we have found being to remove the CMOS battery, which is a pain in the ass) and C.) knowingly breaking Bitlocker and/or TPM and then issuing the next BIOS revision as a "fix", but either doesn't fix the problem, or compounds it even more.

Their Pro Support, particularly with BIOS and Bitlocker issues, is very poor from my experience and that of my coworkers the past couple of years. Hell, our AM has screwed up a PO multiple times today.
 
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And this is where our biggest issues with Dell have been, Bitlocker. We have had multiple BIOS revisions that either A.) upgrade the TPM to a level incompatible with the hardware, B.) Completely nullifies the ability to unsuspend Bitlocker after a BIOS update (with the only solution we have found being to remove the CMOS battery, which is a pain in the ass) and C.) knowingly breaking Bitlocker and/or TPM and then issuing the next BIOS revision as a "fix", but either doesn't fix the problem, or compounds it even more.

Their Pro Support, particularly with BIOS and Bitlocker issues, is very poor from my experience and that of my coworkers the past couple of years. Hell, our AM has screwed up a PO multiple times today.

Interesting. I've installed so many Firmware updates on my precision 7510 I've lost count and the only issue is the total PITA it is that I can't install them without turning off bitlocker on secondary drives (I can't suspend, only decrypt and then re-encrypt).

There's that inconsistency problem again - one user is peachy and others are in a nightmare.
 
One complaint I haven't had with Dell is there Surface equivalent Latitude 5285. We recently purchased several for testing and they are pretty slick.

I have used the Latitude as my sole computer for 6+ months. Plug into some deal at my desk that allows me to use two monitors and my normal keyboard. It’s worked fine for me, and is nice to have something that has all of our security crap built in that I can take on vacation and work remotely.

Now it is probably worth mentioning that I just demonstrated all of my computer knowledge and 91.345% of my usage is email (which is why it’s nice to have the automatic encryption and bunch of other crap I don’t understand built in that I’m told is necessary and makes using a personal computer/tablet/phone a pain in the ass).
 
Interesting. I've installed so many Firmware updates on my precision 7510 I've lost count and the only issue is the total PITA it is that I can't install them without turning off bitlocker on secondary drives (I can't suspend, only decrypt and then re-encrypt).

There's that inconsistency problem again - one user is peachy and others are in a nightmare.
We are strictly on Latitude series, I don't know what differences there are between those lines. But, not saying people shouldn't use Dell's, just from my experience they haven't been the best.
 
Anyone have one? Are they worth the purchase? Or should I just get a Lenovo or HP laptop?

I've had the Surface Pro 3 now for 3-4 years.

Never regretted it. Love it, in fact.

Plenty of horsepower and never had an issue of any kind.
 
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