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Marine Le Pen just won the French election

I like the stories about how Manchelle Obama was a hero in 2015 for refusing to cover up for Saudi royalty but Le Pen is an Islamophobe for refusing. The poor media doesn't realize we have memories longer than yesterday.
 
I like the stories about how Manchelle Obama was a hero in 2015 for refusing to cover up for Saudi royalty but Le Pen is an Islamophobe for refusing. The poor media doesn't realize we have memories longer than yesterday.

Screw the Muslim pigs that think women need to cover up in front of them, arrogant SOB's can go wear a towel and hump their camels in the desert.
 
I like the stories about how Manchelle Obama was a hero in 2015 for refusing to cover up for Saudi royalty but Le Pen is an Islamophobe for refusing. The poor media doesn't realize we have memories longer than yesterday.


Well that settles it, By NZ's logic, M. Obama 2020.
 
Well that settles it, By NZ's logic, M. Obama 2020.
This might just be a good idea. She's definitely got the balls Obama lacked.

That's funny, but no. The good thing about trump getting elected is that I think it will both open the door for, and maybe force dems to think outside of the box for the next go around.
 
That's funny, but no. The good thing about trump getting elected is that I think it will both open the door for, and maybe force dems to think outside of the box for the next go around.
I hope so. The identity politics isn't getting traction. I'd love to see them move more centrist and have a platform that doesn't alienate white working class folks. Plenty of us are on board with a lot of the liberal ideals but didn't like the "hate whitey" tone the party took on.
 
That's funny, but no. The good thing about trump getting elected is that I think it will both open the door for, and maybe force dems to think outside of the box for the next go around.
I hope so. The identity politics isn't getting traction. I'd love to see them move more centrist and have a platform that doesn't alienate white working class folks. Plenty of us are on board with a lot of the liberal ideals but didn't like the "hate whitey" tone the party took on.

Yeah and that's not a difficult platform to get to...or get back to
 
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I hope so. The identity politics isn't getting traction. I'd love to see them move more centrist and have a platform that doesn't alienate white working class folks. Plenty of us are on board with a lot of the liberal ideals but didn't like the "hate whitey" tone the party took on.

The next Dem presidential candidate will be Oprah Winfrey. She fits the identity politics narrative and has the celebrity appeal and like Obama (and unlike Hillary or Bernie) will mobilize the African American vote. This is why the Dems are trying to be as obstructionist as possible. The only way she loses is if Trump is excessively successful.
 
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oprah can win 5 states

I assume you mean 5 states that Hillary didn't win? She'd make Georgia be in play, would flip Michigan and Pennsylvania back and secure all the states Hillary already won. She'd motivate and drive the Democrat's welfare base and African American base to the polls as she is beloved by those crowds. Just look at this year's election. While exit polls are somewhat dubious, they clearly showed that African American turnout was down from 2008 and 2012. If they had maintained their same turnout levels, HRC would be in the White House right now.
 
The next Dem presidential candidate will be Oprah Winfrey. She fits the identity politics narrative and has the celebrity appeal and like Obama (and unlike Hillary or Bernie) will mobilize the African American vote. This is why the Dems are trying to be as obstructionist as possible. The only way she loses is if Trump is excessively successful.
I don't see Oprah giving up her empire for politics, even the office of President. If she could win the office without a presidential campaign, I might tend to agree.
 
The next Dem presidential candidate will be Oprah Winfrey. She fits the identity politics narrative and has the celebrity appeal and like Obama (and unlike Hillary or Bernie) will mobilize the African American vote. This is why the Dems are trying to be as obstructionist as possible. The only way she loses is if Trump is excessively successful.
The dems would then be saying how qualified she is because she created a business empire and had so much appeal they gave her a tv show.
 
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