Quite a bit more than Obama did, no?
For me, need more info on what it means. “Comprehensive” is a term thrown out a lot by pols to make it sound big. I have no reason to think bump stocks should be legal.
Libs, your thoughts?
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Quite a bit more than Obama did, no?
For me, need more info on what it means. “Comprehensive” is a term thrown out a lot by pols to make it sound big. I have no reason to think bump stocks should be legal.
By signing the 2017 resolution rolling back background checks on the mentally ill, he’s done less so far, no?
Also, you do realize Democrats tried to pass gun control post-sandy hook. The NRA blamed video games.
More #fake news. Dems did nothing. A few said words but that is it. Obama did nothing in the 2 years of complete control.
I’m gonna assume “chirac” was actually meant to be Chicago, in which case, you do know the latest trends in gun violence there?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/01/us/chicago-crime-drop/index.html
Curious what you consider “complete” control?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/senate-bill/843/all-info
The Senate dems will hold out for a total ban on any weapon other than a bolt action rifle especially if it looks menacing. They will then blame the GOP/NRA cabal for thwarting any gun control measures. Similar to what they did on immigration.
1. Criminalize (regulate) sales of bump stocks and oversize magazines
2. Criminalize (regulate) sales of ARs to anyone under age 21
3. Impose a federal gasoline tax mandating local school districts to hire state/local police to provide armed guards for every school in America.
2. Criminalize (regulate) sales of ARs to anyone under age 21
3. Impose a federal gasoline tax mandating local school districts to hire state/local police to provide armed guards for every school in America.
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Not to play meaningless semantic games (more accurately...just to play meaningless semantic games), but criminalization of possession is kind of the ultimate in regulation.
Don't disagree with that at all, but what he's suggesting isn't clear. Does he want possession of those things criminalized or have the sale of them regulated. Guess I should have included that question.
I'd like to see bump stocks just go away. There's no reason for them to exist other than to simulate automatic fire, and I can't buy an automatic weapon unless it was made prior to 1983 and I have thousands of dollars.
I could get behind making large capacity magazines, anything larger than 20 ish rounds, NFA class 3 items provided a single tax stamp would be good for the purchase of multiple magazines.
I can get behind regulating the sale of larger capacity magazines as stated above. Hell no to criminalizing their sales. The ATF should rescind their approval for any crank/bump stock that they've aporoved.
How about if we just let the judicial system run it's course and punish Cruz for the crimes he committed?
At least the Sheriff in this instance felt inclined to follow the law and not provide sanctuary for the criminal, despite the fact the Sheriff's office had contact with this man 39 times, too bad the Sheriff did it do his job instead of politicizing the issue.
Not my intent. But arguing against the "let's do it for the kids" isn't exactly easy either when people are going to call you a insensitive monster.
Which is why people use it in the first place.
Deputies called to suspected shooter’s home 39 times over seven years
By Yaron Steinbuch
February 16, 2018 | 8:49am
Before Nikolas Cruz carried out his mass killing at a Florida high school this week, police responded to his home 39 times over a seven-year period, according to disturbing new documents.
Details about the calls to the Broward County Sheriff’s Office — obtained from police records by CNN — were not immediately available and it was impossible to determine if all involved Cruz.
But the nature of the emergencies at his Parkland home included “mentally ill person,” “child/elderly abuse,” “domestic disturbance” and “missing person,” KTLA reported.
And a schoolmate, Brody Speno, told the network that cops were called to Cruz’s home “almost every other week.”
“Something wasn’t right about him,” Speno told CNN. “He was off.”
Speno said he knew Cruz from elementary school and described him as “an evil kid” who was “always getting in trouble.”
Cruz — who posted images of himself on Instagram posing with guns and knives — has confessed to killing 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland and made an alarming online comment about a recent mass shooting.
“Man I can do so much better,” he wrote.
To not ****ing do this:
Or this:
You know, for starters maybe?
Nah, we should load up these incompetent assholes with more ****ing laws they can’t ****ing enforce. That will fix it.
I understand that it's very embarrassing for the LEOs involved, but what do you think changes the end result if they had acted differently?
It's a big "if" game.
It's a big "if" game.
Not sure. Dude was pure evil and intended to kill. There were opportunities to make it impossible to purchase his firearm legally, although he likely would have still found a way.
If he was stopped from buying his gun, maybe he uses a vehicle and drives over a group of students as school lets out...even more difficult to stop than a shooting.
The coward officer at school possibly could have stopped it in the act, reducing the number of casualties.
