I was not aware of this
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-ame...oss/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-ame...oss/history/how-many-slaves-landed-in-the-us/
Less than 400,000 African slaves sent to North America
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Harry, I knew it was less than 500,000 (think I read that in Shelby Foote's trilogy on the war Between The States). Have no idea it was less than 400,000 though.
Isn't this the rodent in chiefs college prof that got arrested by the white officer in Cambridge and of whom the rodent in chief said, of the police officer, "he acted stupidly?"
Anyway, one of the other things that rarely brought up is slavery went on in some places long after the war. For example slavery didn't end in Brazil until 1877. Also conveniently forgotten in this discussion is that many of the slaves were actually captured and sold by other Africans and muslims. But as someone above said, doesn't fir the narrative.
Isn't this the rodent in chiefs college prof that got arrested by the white officer in Cambridge and of whom the rodent in chief said, of the police officer, "he acted stupidly?"
Anyway, one of the other things that rarely brought up is slavery went on in some places long after the war. For example slavery didn't end in Brazil until 1877. Also conveniently forgotten in this discussion is that many of the slaves were actually captured and sold by other Africans and muslims. But as someone above said, doesn't fir the narrative.
That was just the ones shipped in the trade. Still doesn't account for all the generations born into it, etc. A lot smaller than I expected.
The irony is that many have chosen to become voluntary slaves to the democrats and federal treasury.
Overall it was over 12 million that boarded ships to the western hemisphere. Most went to the Caribbean or South America. Probably has something to do with the labor productivity on sugar plantations versus cotton plantations.
Read James McPherson's 'What they Fought For'. Very interesting, a substantial number of Union soldiers (especially further north) didn't give a damn about slavery or blacks. Purely about preserving the union.
For that matter, most Confederate troops didn't care about it either as far as why they were fighting.
I've read that most Confederate soldiers did not own slaves. Many were poor dirt farmers who could barely make a living much less own and feed slaves.
Guns, that is true. Most confederates/southerners did not own slaves (have read numerous different accounts ranging from 14% to less than 8%). The war killed 1 in every 4 southern males so to think that the vast majority of those that died were fighting to preserve something they didn't participate in and probably never were going to participate in, continues to baffle me.
SMemmett, thanks for the suggestion on the book will have to pick that up. Number of years back I read Shelby Foote's trilogy which was very informative and looked way past the usual goal posts. If you get he time and can get access, go to public libraries that have scanned old news papers into the computer system and read what was said in the years running up to the war. Plus to read the written word from those days is very interesting.
I've been fortunate to go to nearly every major battle field in the US and they never cease to impress me. Those were some incredibly tough people all the way around. Its also worth noting that the majority of fatalities in that war, were from disease, exposure and generally poor health not from actual combat wounds.
Hoyt Axton sings a song called "I'm A Good Ole Rebel" probably on youtube, but not sure. Interesting lyrics for sure.
SMemmett, thanks for the suggestion on the book will have to pick that up. Number of years back I read Shelby Foote's trilogy which was very informative and looked way past the usual goal posts. If you get he time and can get access, go to public libraries that have scanned old news papers into the computer system and read what was said in the years running up to the war. Plus to read the written word from those days is very interesting.
I've been fortunate to go to nearly every major battle field in the US and they never cease to impress me. Those were some incredibly tough people all the way around. Its also worth noting that the majority of fatalities in that war, were from disease, exposure and generally poor health not from actual combat wounds.
Hoyt Axton sings a song called "I'm A Good Ole Rebel" probably on youtube, but not sure. Interesting lyrics for sure.
Found this on twitter. Kinda interesting. Wouldn't have guessed this.
Mega there were actual numerous freed black men that owned slaves, in numerous states. There were even a number of freedmen/ex-slaves who served in the ranks of the confederate army....and unlike the initial job regime for union soldiers that were black, they were in combat units.
From one of Shelby Foote's books also learned that the Emancipation proclamation only came about because of the union losses at Antietam (September 1862). The union generals understood that they were going to run out of soldiers if they did not include freed slaves as a resource pool. And even then the document only granted freedom to slaves in the areas still under "open rebellion."
I spent many years reading about The War Between The States......and like all complicated historical issues, it was not an entirely this or that proposition. Its just easier to teach it that way in school, if its even taught at all.
From one of Shelby Foote's books also learned that the Emancipation proclamation only came about because of the union losses at Antietam (September 1862). The union generals understood that they were going to run out of soldiers if they did not include freed slaves as a resource pool. And even then the document only granted freedom to slaves in the areas still under "open rebellion."
I spent many years reading about The War Between The States......and like all complicated historical issues, it was not an entirely this or that proposition. Its just easier to teach it that way in school, if its even taught at all.
