Kevin McCarthy on Benghazi

[JimmyBob]

I couldn't find the link to his appearance on Fox this evening "trying" to clarify his dumb-ass remarks from two days ago; it doesn't matter, he failed/made it worse. If this jack-off-idiot is the answer to replacing John Boy, the R's are in deep doo-doo.

 

[imprimis]

McCarthy is John Boehner with silver hair.

 

[windriverrange]

Yep, why is it that simple people, such as posters here, would know not to say something like this....even if you thought it. Yet one of the allegedly smartest 500+ people in the US doesn't? If they aren't investigating Benghazi to find out why those four Americans died and how to prevent it from happening again, then they need to shut the whole deal down.

 

[wyomingosualum]

What has he accomplished that he can point to and say, "Look at what I did when I was in congress"?

Anything?

 

[CowboyPhil]

What makes you think he's one of the 500 smartest people in the US?

 

[hollywood]

Windriverrange,

Do you not think the previous 7 Benghazi investigations weren't enough to learn what went wrong and how to avoid such things in the future?

Here's the reality of the situation (all of this info is from the prior investigations)

1. Libya is/was a very dangerous country - you can't protect every American diplomat everywhere at all times.

2. The attack occurred some 400+ miles away, as the crow flies and about 700 miles by land, from our Embassy (in Tripoli) which is the place where security is the heaviest.

3. On at least 2 occasions in the previous 2-3 weeks prior to the attack, African Command had offered Amb. Stephens additional security and he turned it down.

4. Amb. Stephens is the one who made the decision to take such a small security detail with him when he traveled to the consulate office in Benghazi. I actually understand the reasoning, showing up with a convoy was actually likely to draw too much attention to him and his people and put them in more danger, than trying to go low-key and avoid detection by the more radical elements operating in the city. Unfortunately, this tactic did not seem to work.

5. Nearly every witness who testified about security, indicated that although every Embassy is protected by Marines, virtually no consulate office is. And in fact, the second attack which killed two US security operatives (2 of the 4 victims), happened at a distance well over a mile from the consulate office.

6. The leader of the attack was identified and was captured by US forces in Libya in 2014. He has testified that the attack was planned in response to the controversial video which was then causing spontaneous riots across the Arab world. (never know if these guys are lying or not, but I can't think how that claim helps his cause.)

The investigation into Benghazi is now the longest running investigation in US History. Much more time has been spent on this topic than 9-11. What do you figure Trey Gowdy is going to turn up that the previous 7 other Congressional hearings/investigations didn't?

 

[hollywood]

Wyomingosualum,

Here's the OFFICIAL record of what legislation/resolutions that McCarthy has introduced that became law. Of 48 items he introduced, only 3 have actually "become law."

1. A resolution establishing the opening date for the House to begin conducting business in 2014.
2. A resolution renaming a govt building for Neil Armstrong; and
3. A resolution renaming the Post Office in Bakersfield, CA for Buck Owens

That seems to the limit of his solo accomplishments.

https://www.congress.gov/member/kevin-mccarthy/M001165?q={"sponsorship":"sponsored"}

Now, I'll admit that Buck Owens definitely deserved having some Fed facility in Bakersfield named for him as I'm a bit of a Buckeroo, but that's not a record one would hang their hat on in order to qualify for the Speaker's position. That's just not the record of someone who has shown the ability to get things done in the House.

 

[windriverrange]

Cowboy Phil I said one of the "allegedly" smartest...I seriously doubt any of those clowns are among the smartest 500 people in this country, probably not even in The District of Corruption.

Wood guess I'll have to believe all you wrote, except the claim about the video which I think is bullshit. Witnesses said the attackers practiced fire and cover (or maneuver) tactics which a spontaneous mob wouldn't do. That screams military training...now maybe they moved their timetable up because of that, who knows.

Will also agree that Libya is a dangerous place, but it wasn't dangerous before we overthrew the clown ruler.

Lastly it is my understand that the ambassador requested extra security right before the attack. Is that false?

 

[windriverrange]

Wood I'll also add that with that lying winch having tried to scrub her hard driver who knows what really happened from her end.

If they do recover emails that show she was selling influence then the longest investigation is worth it.

 

[hollywood]

Windriverrange,

The attack was definitely pre-planned and carried out by a group which was an al-quada affiliate.

What I relayed was what the leader of that group said was one of the primary motivating factors that caused them to attack. Ahmed Abu Khatallah, the ringleader and apparent mastermind behind the attacks, who was with the group Ansar al-Shariah. He was captured in 2014 and brought to the US and he currently sits in Jail in DC, awaiting trial.

He was the one, who while still under military custody said that the videos were part of the reason why they attacked.

Gen Carter Ham testified before Congress that Amb Steven's had been offered additional security at the Annex and Consulate just weeks before the attack and had turned down both offers. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/05/15/official-amb-stevens-refused-additional-security.html

From other details that I've read, Stevens previously had asked for additional security for the annex and consulate numerous times previously and there was no budget for it. The original plan was to provide some 5 US "Contractors" to be available to defend the annex and consulate building in Benghazi as the agreed upon number, but there were seldom 5 there at any given time. In addition to those contractors (most ex-Seals), there was, just like nearly every other country where a US consulate is located, the US Govt had contracted with local security forces who were supposed to provide the bulk of the fighting.

That day/night, the local forces did actually show up and help fight the attackers. They are the ones who retrieved Stevens from the building and took him to the hospital and apparently later brought his body to US officials.

But bottom line, Stevens knew full well that Benghazi was becoming a much more dangerous place and the provisional Libyan government did not have a full handle on the city and security was eroding. Yet, he turned down the additional security measures African central command offered and traveled to Benghazi when he knew it was a dangerous decision. Some times, brave men make brave decisions, that they end up paying with their lives.

 

[Headhunter]

If Hillary and the State Department did nothing wrong and didn't distort and mislead to protect their asses they would of both handed over everything immediately. But no, they have fought tooth and nail to keep witnesses and documents from the committees. Anyone that is even mildly objective can see that something stinks to high heaven.

I'm no Kevin McCarthy fan but all he said was that the investigations have hurt Hillary politically, not that they were politically motivated. He stated a fact, she has been hurt by these investigations, it is all from her own dishonesty. The media has twisted it and the weak stick Republicans have failed to defend what he said.

 

[long-duc-dong]

If Hillary and the State Department did nothing wrong and didn't distort and mislead to protect their asses they would of both handed over everything immediately. But no, they have fought tooth and nail to keep witnesses and documents from the committees. Anyone that is even mildly objective can see that something stinks to high heaven.

I'm no Kevin McCarthy fan but all he said was that the investigations have hurt Hillary politically, not that they were politically motivated. He stated a fact, she has been hurt by these investigations, it is all from her own dishonesty. The media has twisted it and the weak stick Republicans have failed to defend what he said.

Guy should have kept his mouth shut. Regardless if his statement was fact he shouldn't have said anything. These blowhard politicians/attorneys like to listen to themselves talk. They think they're the smartest one's in the room when in fact they constantly show their ignorance with statements like these. Why give Hillary an out? Shut the F up and let her stew in her own s**t!

 

[hollywood]

So, what you're saying is that the Republican's in Congress are so damned incompetent that it takes them at least 8 tries to do anything right? (and even so, you're still not certain they are actually going to uncover anything.)

Well, I guess that's something we can agree on.

 

[pokemagain]

There is still a lot of unanswered questions...https://sharylattkisson.com/unanswered-benghazi-questions-first-in-a-series/

http://politichicks.com/2015/09/ben...ater-unanswered-questions-unanswered-prayers/

 

[NeekReevers]

The Republicans had their chance on Benghazi and effed it up, as usual. They need to just move on and focus on beating Hillary on the basis of her being an incompetent, elitist political and corporate hack that can't figure out how to charge an ipad or drive a Honda. I mean she's losing the NH Democratic primary to a guy who isn't even a Democrat! She's terrible and if you're a Democrat and can't admit that then at least admit you'd vote for whatever garbage they throw up on that side as long as they have a D after their name.

 

[Headhunter]

So Hillary and the State Department haven't stone walled and have given congress everything they've requested?

The very people feigning rage about these investigations are the ones causing them to drag out.

 

[JimmyBob]

So Hillary and the State Department haven't stone walled and have given congress everything they've requested?

The very people feigning rage about these investigations are the ones causing them to drag out.

Good grief, she's the most transparent since the last transparent liar made that claim. Hell, one more beer and I'm shedding my glasses and using her cankles for a magnifying glass.