Just curious

[MegaPoke]

Why is the hammer and sickle flag less publically intolerable for protesters than even the Confederate flag, and a million times less so than the swastika?

Why is punch a nazi more relevant than punching commies - which we did for a lot longer?

Not advocating anything here, just wondering out loud why communism seems to get such a social pass. I've read numbers as high as 100,000,000 murdered.

Why wouldn't someone with a commie flag be considered just as much of a dangerous pariah as a skinhead? Seems less dangerous somehow I guess.

Is it just harder to take them seriously? That's my guess. Either way. Piss on nazis and commies.

 

[GunsOfFrankEaton]

Why is the hammer and sickle flag less publically intolerable for protesters than even the Confederate flag, and a million times less so than the swastika?

Why is punch a nazi more relevant than punching commies - which we did for a lot longer?

Not advocating anything here, just wondering out loud why communism seems to get such a social pass. I've read numbers as high as 100,000,000 murdered.

Why wouldn't someone with a commie flag be considered just as much of a dangerous pariah as a skinhead? Seems less dangerous somehow I guess.

Is it just harder to take them seriously? That's my guess. Either way. Piss on nazis and commies.

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During the last century, communist monsters killed over 100 million people.

 

[NeekReevers]

The obvious difference in the groups you mentioned is the racial motivation behind the groups. It goes without saying that our country is sensitive about racism. If you murder someone to steal their wallet it's treated differently than if you murdered them because of their race. I think it all goes back to how our society views racism.

 

[MegaPoke]

The obvious difference in the groups you mentioned is the racial motivation behind the groups. It goes without saying that our country is sensitive about racism. If you murder someone to steal their wallet it's treated differently than if you murdered them because of their race. I think it all goes back to how our society views racism.

I guess. Seems like genicide is genocide

 

[MegaPoke]

Plus, we've fought two wars and a Cold War against it and outside of Islamic radicals our biggest state threat remains a murderous communist regime in NK. That's a constant state of conflict since the end of WW2.

Contextually it seems more relevant than a 4 year war against nazis or 150 years ago in our own history.

Obviously, not arguing in favor of nazis or slavery but I grew up in a time when the hammer and sickle wasn't a history lesson. Most of you did too.

 

[shortbus]

You've been watching Bill Burr haven't you?

 

[MegaPoke]

You've been watching Bill Burr haven't you?

Nope. I listen to his podcast sometimes but as far as I can tell, I haven't heard anyone ask this

 

[ThorOdinson13]

It all comes down to media. One is viewed as being a "right wing" ideology, the other a "left wing" ideology. The media is predominately left so the "opposite" is villianized far more than the other.

Doesn't matter that both are actually on the left of the American spectrum.

 

[squeak]

Communists should be jailed.

 

[windriverrange]

MEGA most people, especially the younger ones don't know jack shit about history. Instead of a historical discussion and all the factors leading up to great moments or not great moments. They want to vent their current frustrations within a black or white causation, and deeming that causation the root of all their current inequities they are not interested in a wider discussion....

Also it's how certain events are portrayed. For instance you almost never hear people criticize Clinton for the major FU in Somalia (early 90's) or Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs or FDR for interning Japanese Americans. But they scewer Bush for no WMD's and No blood for oil etc.

Then there is just the flat out lies that were promulgated back when (Duranty (sp) and The NYT extolling the virtues of Stalin and collectivization. Think he even one a Pulitzer for that work).

As someone who reads almost nothing but history (even taught history) makes me sad at how poorly people understand our past and are able to view it through "the context of the times." Instead it is viewed as a vehicle to blame nearly everyone for their own problems. Communism isn't near the in your face issue for people because they can't relate it to anything relevant in their existence and or, in some cases,misery.

Anyone who thinks removing statues, renaming schools, streets and building, because they are offensive, is somehow going to make everything all better is a certified moron.

 

[MegaPoke]

MEGA most people, especially the younger ones don't know jack shit about history. Instead of a historical discussion and all the factors leading up to great moments or not great moments. They want to vent their current frustrations within a black or white causation, and deeming that causation the root of all their current inequities they are not interested in a wider discussion....

Also it's how certain events are portrayed. For instance you almost never hear people criticize Clinton for the major FU in Somalia (early 90's) or Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs or FDR for interning Japanese Americans. But they scewer Bush for no WMD's and No blood for oil etc.

Then there is just the flat out lies that were promulgated back when (Duranty (sp) and The NYT extolling the virtues of Stalin and collectivization. Think he even one a Pulitzer for that work).

As someone who reads almost nothing but history (even taught history) makes me sad at how poorly people understand our past and are able to view it through "the context of the times." Instead it is viewed as a vehicle to blame nearly everyone for their own problems. Communism isn't near the in your face issue for people because they can't relate it to anything relevant in their existence and or, in some cases,misery.

Anyone who thinks removing statues, renaming schools, streets and building, because they are offensive, is somehow going to make everything all better is a certified moron.

Great take. All these SJW issues seem like purposeful distractions.

 

[davidallen]

Why is the hammer and sickle flag less publically intolerable for protesters than even the Confederate flag, and a million times less so than the swastika?

Why is punch a nazi more relevant than punching commies - which we did for a lot longer?

Not advocating anything here, just wondering out loud why communism seems to get such a social pass. I've read numbers as high as 100,000,000 murdered.

Why wouldn't someone with a commie flag be considered just as much of a dangerous pariah as a skinhead? Seems less dangerous somehow I guess.

Is it just harder to take them seriously? That's my guess. Either way. Piss on nazis and commies.

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I think Neek gets at it fairly well... Genocide is almost always ethnic based. There is no one group that symbolizes the crimes of authoritarians as concisely as the Nazi crime against the Jews (and of course others).

 

[JimmyBob]

MEGA most people, especially the younger ones don't know jack shit about history. Instead of a historical discussion and all the factors leading up to great moments or not great moments. They want to vent their current frustrations within a black or white causation, and deeming that causation the root of all their current inequities they are not interested in a wider discussion....

Also it's how certain events are portrayed. For instance you almost never hear people criticize Clinton for the major FU in Somalia (early 90's) or Kennedy for the Bay of Pigs or FDR for interning Japanese Americans. But they scewer Bush for no WMD's and No blood for oil etc.

Then there is just the flat out lies that were promulgated back when (Duranty (sp) and The NYT extolling the virtues of Stalin and collectivization. Think he even one a Pulitzer for that work).

As someone who reads almost nothing but history (even taught history) makes me sad at how poorly people understand our past and are able to view it through "the context of the times." Instead it is viewed as a vehicle to blame nearly everyone for their own problems. Communism isn't near the in your face issue for people because they can't relate it to anything relevant in their existence and or, in some cases,misery.

Anyone who thinks removing statues, renaming schools, streets and building, because they are offensive, is somehow going to make everything all better is a certified moron.

Ignorance of history and narrative driven victimization play well with the clueless masses.

 

[davidallen]

Great take. All these SJW issues seem like purposeful distractions.

Purposeful? This is where I get of the Mega boat - this smells of "global conspiracy"...

 

[MegaPoke]

Purposeful? This is where I get of the Mega boat - this smells of "global conspiracy"...

I think corporate international media enables SJW legitimacy and I think it's on purpose. Why? I'm open to suggestion but I think it's as simple as distraction.

 

[shortbus]

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