Just 3 years ago...

[imprimis]

The liberal media was ballyhooing the virtues of the economic miracle in Venezuela.

Now, the true reality of socialism is occurring there. A once prosperous nation brought to its knees. Bernie Sanders or Hillary will do the same here.

It's little wonder Obama praised the likes of Chavez, Castro and other dictators. He is one of them.

 

[windriverrange]

Unlike the clown in Honduras (Zelaya sp?) I'm thinking the clown in Venezuela ends up dead at the hands of the military.

The rodent in chief probably had a tattoo that says " I (heart sign) Che."
Amazing the utter damage the lefties have done in these countries.

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

Im going to email this douchebag and ask him when I can expect the follow-up to this article. I encourage others to do the same. His email is at the end of it.

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/06/hugo_chavezs_economic_miracle/

 

[imprimis]

Here's a reply to the original article.

http://teaparty-news.com/56025/just...lled-economic-miracle-in-socialist-venezuela/

 

[imprimis]

And reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Ca.../david_sirota_author_of_the_saloncom_article/

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

Hahaha that's some funny stuff. That douchebag from Salon has deactivated his Twitter now.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

You're 25 years too late and you don't have to use some banana republic as an example. I remember Rush screaming economic collapse was imminent when Clinton was elected. It was gonna happen any day now all through the nineties. As it turns out, the closest we came to it was at the end of Dumbya's 8 years. Unless you count McVeigh -- he was also worried about socialism, wasn't he?

 

[squeak]

As it turns out, the closest we came to it was at the end of Dumbya's 8 years.

The root cause, ironically, being the "good" intentions of the government to put poor people and minorities in homes they couldn't afford.

 

[07pilt]

The root cause, ironically, being the "good" intentions of the government to put poor people and minorities in homes they couldn't afford.

Completely false.

 

[Medic007]

So socialism is working in Venezuela?

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

About like libertarianism is working in Somalia.

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

About like libertarianism is working in Somalia.

That's a direct reflection of Somali "culture", which is ass-backwards in every way possible. The most ridiculous talking point of the "progressives" is "all cultures are equal." Complete and utter nonsense. Somalia is ass-backwards because Christians never colonized the place.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

Completely false.

"Completely" false?

 

[07pilt]

That's a direct reflection of Somali "culture", which is ass-backwards in every way possible. The most ridiculous talking point of the "progressives" is "all cultures are equal." Complete and utter nonsense. Somalia is ass-backwards because Christians never colonized the place.

Both Italy and Britain colonized Somalia.

You are thinking of Ethiopia/Abyssinia.

 

[07pilt]

"Completely" false?

Yes. It is nonsensical on its face.

 

[squeak]

Gather around children. Dad is about to teach us something.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

Yes. It is nonsensical on its face.

Ok, can you fill us as to why you think so, or do we have to just take your word for it?

 

[squeak]

Ok, can you fill us as to why you think so, or do we have to just take your word for it?

Agree. I'm always looking for knowledge. I have an open mind.

 

[BIGOSUFAN]

Both Italy and Britain colonized Somalia.

You are thinking of Ethiopia/Abyssinia.

Very briefly, not even for a full generation. Certainly not long enough for Christiandom to gain a foothold in their lives.

 

[anon_xl72qcu5isp39]

Agree. I'm always looking for knowledge. I have an open mind.

Me too. Sounds like more right wing propoganda. Squeak, cite please?

 

[07pilt]

Agree. I'm always looking for knowledge. I have an open mind.

Gather around children. Dad is about to teach us something.

 

[07pilt]

Very briefly, not even for a full generation. Certainly not long enough for Christiandom to gain a foothold in their lives.

What about Honduras?

 

[07pilt]

Ok, can you fill us as to why you think so, or do we have to just take your word for it?

Maybe squeak can fill us in as to why he thinks ""good" intentions of the government to put poor people and minorities in homes they couldn't afford" caused the financial collapse.

How much effort would put into refuting CUP's claim that Bill Clinton's intervention in Kosovo caused the dot com boom?

 

[squeak]

Me too. Sounds like more right wing propoganda. Squeak, cite please?

You seriously have never heard this argument?

There are a number of factors that lead to the Great Recession. No one truly knows what the "root" cause is. I'm arguing that it was relaxed standards to get more people to purchase homes. A number of things contributed to the recession after, but I think that is the root cause.

The people on the titanic who didn't survive didn't die because the ship hit an iceberg.

 

[07pilt]

Step 1: Government relaxed standards to get more people to purchase homes. (Since we know that your loan officer is actually the government)
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Great recession

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

Step 1 is beyond dispute.

 

[07pilt]

Step 1 is beyond dispute.

I am excited to hear Step 2 and Step 3.

Did your loan officer work for HUD or the Treasury?

 

[squeak]

Step 1: Government relaxed standards to get more people to purchase homes. (Since we know that your loan officer is actually the government)
Step 2: ??????
Step 3: ??????
Step 4: Great recession

Do you understand what a root cause is?

 

[07pilt]

Do you understand what a root cause is?

Do you understand what cause is?

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

I am excited to hear Step 2 and Step 3.

Did your loan officer work for HUD or the Treasury?

No, I did.

 

[squeak]

(Since we know that your loan officer is actually the government)

Did the government encourage this behavior?

 

[07pilt]

No, I did.

As a loan officer?

 

[squeak]

Do you understand what cause is?

So you don't think there is any relation?

 

[07pilt]

So you don't think there is any relation?

You have yet to establish one.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

You have yet to establish one.

Why is that exactly? You have yet to establish that there isn't ANY relationship, which is your stated position.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

As a loan officer?

How many loan officers work for HUD or treasury?

 

[squeak]

Isn't it obvious? People encouraged to purchase homes they couldn't afford, the government enabling and encouraging it, prices/values inflated, HUD/Freddie/Fannie buying more subprime loans, banks with excess cash needing a place to put it, creation of synthetic CDOs, etc, housing bubble bursts, recession.

 

[07pilt]

Why is that exactly? You have yet to establish that there isn't ANY relationship, which is your stated position.

Prove there isn't any relationship between the Kosovo intervention and the dot com boom.

 

[07pilt]

How many loan officers work for HUD or treasury?

Must be a lot since the government sets the standards for loans.

 

[Marshal Jim Duncan]

Prove there isn't any relationship between the Kosovo intervention and the dot com boom.

I haven't stated there isn't a relationship.

Did Congress impose affordable housing standards on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac beginning in 1992? Then did they increase the quota of loans those GSE's must purchase that were under the "affordable housing " umbrella multiple times in the early part of this century?