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Jeff Sessions testifies

Two things, Kamala Harris is a totally rude bitch and John McCain sounds like he's got a death rattle.

Outside of that I thought Senator Cotton nailed it. Total waste of time and money by congress, six months and they haven't produced one shred of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to change the election.
 
Two things, Kamala Harris is a totally rude bitch and John McCain sounds like he's got a death rattle.

Outside of that I thought Senator Cotton nailed it. Total waste of time and money by congress, six months and they haven't produced one shred of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to change the election.
Harris has to be among the top 5 contenders to be the next Democratic nominee for POTUS.
 
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Harris has to be among the top 5 contenders to be the next Democratic nominee for POTUS.
I have no doubt she is being a rude bitch in in these hearings to gain a following.

For crying out loud the Dems almost nominated a cranky, old, delusional, socialist and wound up with a lying career criminal. She's almost got the nomination wrapped up.
 
Two things, Kamala Harris is a totally rude bitch and John McCain sounds like he's got a death rattle.

Outside of that I thought Senator Cotton nailed it. Total waste of time and money by congress, six months and they haven't produced one shred of evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to change the election.

It was pretty easy to see what it was 6 months ago.
 
I have no doubt she is being a rude bitch in in these hearings to gain a following.

For crying out loud the Dems almost nominated a cranky, old, delusional, socialist and wound up with a lying career criminal. She's almost got the nomination wrapped up.
The Clinton's won't go away without a fight. They're grooming their buddy, Terry McAuliffe, for a run.
 
Which was? I don't recall you accepting anything about Russia involvement, yet now "everybody knows Russia tried to influence the election"...

1. My soapbox has been Trump collusion hysteria.

2. Seth was the email leaker IMO.

Beyond that...

3. I've said Russia has tried to influence our elections forever.

It's cute when you think you've gotcha'd me.
 
1. My soapbox has been Trump collusion hysteria.

2. Seth was the email leaker IMO.

Beyond that...

3. I've said Russia has tried to influence our elections forever.

It's cute when you think you've gotcha'd me.
I don't think it, I have lived it. Early in this whole thing you denied Russian hacking and coordinated influence to the benefit of Trump accusations. Collusion is your new qualification so you can try and hold on to some semblance of credibility.

If you don't mind - did Mannaforte attempt to influence Trump positions on Russia in the campaign? Did Flynn work to advance the interests of his clients during the campaign and his brief stint as a White House official? Should Trump have bothered to learn enough about the people around him to avoid this debacle?
 
I don't think it, I have lived it. Early in this whole thing you denied Russian hacking and coordinated influence to the benefit of Trump accusations. Collusion is your new qualification so you can try and hold on to some semblance of credibility.

If you don't mind - did Mannaforte attempt to influence Trump positions on Russia in the campaign? Did Flynn work to advance the interests of his clients during the campaign and his brief stint as a White House official? Should Trump have bothered to learn enough about the people around him to avoid this debacle?

Virtually every time I've addressed "Russia bullshit" it's been in direct response to collusion mythology. The only new qualification is now collusion isn't cool anymore so you are trying to pivot. It's awesome.
 
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Virtually every time I've addressed "Russia bullshit" it's been in direct response to collusion mythology. The only new qualification is now collusion isn't cool anymore so you are trying to pivot. It's awesome.
No mention of collusion in the following...

So it doesn't matter to you that no evidence whatsoever has been offered that Russia is involved?

You are that blindly loyal?
 
I don't think it, I have lived it. Early in this whole thing you denied Russian hacking and coordinated influence to the benefit of Trump accusations. Collusion is your new qualification so you can try and hold on to some semblance of credibility.

If you don't mind - did Mannaforte attempt to influence Trump positions on Russia in the campaign? Did Flynn work to advance the interests of his clients during the campaign and his brief stint as a White House official? Should Trump have bothered to learn enough about the people around him to avoid this debacle?


Russia didn't try to influence the election so Trump would win, they were like the rest of us that voted for Trump, anyone but that lying, corrupt old bitch.
 
Nah, less fun than I thought it might be. Pretty clear you dismissed Russia involvement from the beginning. QED.

Involved how? Be specific. I don't even know what you think I've changed my tune on, so if you are going to accuse me of that it would be nice if you could at least articulate what you are suggesting.

You and Sys are so far 0 for 2 in trying to use quotes to support incorrect statements about things I've said on this board.
 
1. My soapbox has been Trump collusion hysteria.

2. Seth was the email leaker IMO.

Beyond that...

3. I've said Russia has tried to influence our elections forever.

It's cute when you think you've gotcha'd me.

A respectful question...in an attempt to understand and define some terms you are using...

When you say "Trump collusion", are you referring to:

1. DJTJr....the individual...himself...colluding with Russia to influence the election on his behalf;

Or

2. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from Russian reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards Russia or Russian objectives/desires;

Or

3. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from ANY foreign government (not just Russia...like Turkey) reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards that foreign government's desires;

Or

4. Something else?

Personally, I find:

#1 Highly, HIGHLY unlikely....
#2 Possible (Manafort, Page, Flynn)....
#3 Very possible, bordering on likely (Flynn and Turkey).

Thanks in advance.
 
I'm on the "tin hat" bandwagon for anyone thinking Russia influenced the election. The truth isn't dictated by what everyone thinks, it's proved by empirical evidence.

This cluster-f*k isn't about truth; it's a conjured narrative being perpetuated by the left/some right? to undermine Trump's presidency with the end game being removal from office.
 
I honestly don't know what we are investigating anymore. This is what's wrong with this kind of stuff. I read, I'm fairly informed and not of the twitter generation but if I can get burned out and loss interest what do you think that the majority of Americans are doing? Simply drag something out and eventually the public outrage dwindles, move on to the next TV drama. There have been no smoking guns revealed, no security guard calling in a suspicious, no stained dress. Nada. There were leaked emails (most likely done by the Russians) but it's not like the Russians typed up all the horrible crap in the emails, not like they made HRC have a private server nor made her delete a crap load of emails. Or make her one of the least like politicians ever.

Wake me when someone finds something, anything.
 
I honestly don't know what we are investigating anymore. This is what's wrong with this kind of stuff. I read, I'm fairly informed and not of the twitter generation but if I can get burned out and loss interest what do you think that the majority of Americans are doing? Simply drag something out and eventually the public outrage dwindles, move on to the next TV drama. There have been no smoking guns revealed, no security guard calling in a suspicious, no stained dress. Nada. There were leaked emails (most likely done by the Russians) but it's not like the Russians typed up all the horrible crap in the emails, not like they made HRC have a private server nor made her delete a crap load of emails. Or make her one of the least like politicians ever.

Wake me when someone finds something, anything.
I was traveling today so I ended up listening to every minute of the Session testimony. I would estimate there were less than 10% of the questions were really on topic.

If Sessions states he did not collude with Russians, he didn't do anything about impacting election, he didn't know anyone or talk to anyone about effecting the election, and the group who organized the Mayflower event put out a detailed statement that they invited the Russian ambassador along with others ... what in the world are they asking about?
 
A respectful question...in an attempt to understand and define some terms you are using...

When you say "Trump collusion", are you referring to:

1. DJTJr....the individual...himself...colluding with Russia to influence the election on his behalf;

Or

2. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from Russian reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards Russia or Russian objectives/desires;

Or

3. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from ANY foreign government (not just Russia...like Turkey) reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards that foreign government's desires;

Or

4. Something else?

Personally, I find:

#1 Highly, HIGHLY unlikely....
#2 Possible (Manafort, Page, Flynn)....
#3 Very possible, bordering on likely (Flynn and Turkey).

Thanks in advance.

Great question. Gimme a bit to properly answer and hopefully clarify my overall stance so as not to be quoted out of context by misguided ideologues.
 
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A respectful question...in an attempt to understand and define some terms you are using...

When you say "Trump collusion", are you referring to:

1. DJTJr....the individual...himself...colluding with Russia to influence the election on his behalf;

Or

2. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from Russian reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards Russia or Russian objectives/desires;

Or

3. Anyone in the Trump election and/or administration (with or without DJTJr knowledge) taking benefits from ANY foreign government (not just Russia...like Turkey) reps/officials with either an implicit or explicit expectation/intention that they would attempt to influence DJTJr favorably towards that foreign government's desires;

Or

4. Something else?

Personally, I find:

#1 Highly, HIGHLY unlikely....
#2 Possible (Manafort, Page, Flynn)....
#3 Very possible, bordering on likely (Flynn and Turkey).

Thanks in advance.
#3
 
This cluster-f*k isn't about truth; it's a conjured narrative being perpetuated by the left/some right? to undermine Trump's presidency with the end game being removal from office.
I like and approve of this message. Will add his adversaries are aided and abetted by DJTs ego....
 
And one more thing... It is utterly delicious to see Trump undone by tactics he himself attempted on BHO and failed with.

In the end there will be just enough to Russian interference aided by the likes of Flynn combined and Trump's own hubris, substantive and symbolic, to at least neuter him until the midterms....
 
Involved how? Be specific. I don't even know what you think I've changed my tune on, so if you are going to accuse me of that it would be nice if you could at least articulate what you are suggesting.

You and Sys are so far 0 for 2 in trying to use quotes to support incorrect statements about things I've said on this board.
Just so we are clear you still see no likliehood of Russian interference via disinformation, leaking information and active cyber attacks in the 2016 election?
 
Just so we are clear you still see no likliehood of Russian interference via disinformation, leaking information and active cyber attacks in the 2016 election?

You are conflating several things here. Settle down. I'll lay it out for you shortly.

However - disinformation is not the same thing as hacking or colluding (the two terms that have been used until just now) and I've never claimed there was no likelihood of disinformation. I would be shocked if they like us, didn't engage in propaganda. Influencing elections is an entirely different argument. Fetch a quote to prove me wrong.

I wondered what the spin would be a few days ago. Has it really come to this for you? Disinformation? Can you even define that specifically?

Also. Do you find Saudi and Qatari influence similarly objectionable?
 
You are conflating several things here. Settle down. I'll lay it out for you shortly.

However - disinformation is not the same thing as hacking or colluding (the two terms that have been used until just now) and I've never claimed there was no likelihood of disinformation. I would be shocked if they like us, didn't engage in propaganda. Influencing elections is an entirely different argument. Fetch a quote to prove me wrong.

I wondered what the spin would be a few days ago. Has it really come to this for you? Disinformation? Can you even define that specifically?

Also. Do you find Saudi and Qatari influence similarly objectionable?
Many quotes provided. That work is done.

Scope, reach, and effect of Russia render any comparison to Qatar as ludicrous. Take your time on this one...
 
I would like to know how Russia influenced one single vote, one. No one has the answer. The biggest danger is that Russia is trying and will continue to try to hack our voting systems. What if they simply eliminated all voting records? Think that would cause a problem, who is eligible to vote on voting day? It would slow it down, and perhaps influence the vote based on the knowledge of Rep or Dem districts and slow down the voting of one party. This is the real Russian threat, no one cares. Let's worry about stupid stuff that has been going on for 6 months with no solid lead.

Meanwhile back in the US we are practicing political masturbation while North Korea sends an American citizen back to the US in a coma, while trying to figure out how to put a nuke on a missile and plant it on Washington.

Oh, and terrorists continue to do what they do while Washington creates the next political porn show to masturbate to.
 
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so is it more likely cankles capped seth rich

or


russia hacked the election
 
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