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Israel vs. Hamas

SUPERPOKES

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Basic facts that Ponca Dan doesn’t seem to get:

* Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth
* If Hamas could get away with it, it would kill all Jews
* Hamas does not care if Palestinian civilians die. In fact, it considers those people martyrs.
* Most Palestinians fully support Hamas and its actions against Jews
* Hamas leadership wants Palestinian civilians to die - and the more the better - because it turns people (especially Americans) against Israel
* Hamas will not give up the hostages they have unless they massively benefit from their release
* Hamas does not want a cease fire agreement, at least a lasting one. They will ALWAYS be looking to attack Israel. It has been that way since Israel’s creation in 1948.
* Hamas leadership will only negotiate when not doing so will lead to their death.
* Iran loves having Hamas being the bad guy and doing the dirty work with its attacks on Israel.
* The October 7 attacks are just the latest of a series of attacks against Israel by their Middle Eastern enemies. There is a long list of wars and terrorist attacks against Israel.
 
Basic facts that Ponca Dan doesn’t seem to get:

* Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth
* If Hamas could get away with it, it would kill all Jews
* Hamas does not care if Palestinian civilians die. In fact, it considers those people martyrs.
* Most Palestinians fully support Hamas and its actions against Jews
* Hamas leadership wants Palestinian civilians to die - and the more the better - because it turns people (especially Americans) against Israel
* Hamas will not give up the hostages they have unless they massively benefit from their release
* Hamas does not want a cease fire agreement, at least a lasting one. They will ALWAYS be looking to attack Israel. It has been that way since Israel’s creation in 1948.
* Hamas leadership will only negotiate when not doing so will lead to their death.
* Iran loves having Hamas being the bad guy and doing the dirty work with its attacks on Israel.
* The October 7 attacks are just the latest of a series of attacks against Israel by their Middle Eastern enemies. There is a long list of wars and terrorist attacks against Israel.
Sorry, @SUPERPOKES, I just saw this. I don't disagree with a thing you wrote about Hamas, maybe a small nitpick here and there, but basically, I think you nailed it. I'm sure where you and I part company is I maintain you could take virtually every bullet point you articulated, say Zionists where you say Hamas and Hamas where you say Israel and your argument would be just as compelling.
 
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