If you can't see the difference you're even more stupid than I thought. Yet you believe people should be able to riot, loot, set fires, attack police officers at their own discretion? And pay no consequences...
IRS Job Posting: Must Be Willing To Use Deadly Force
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There are 2500 investigators right now. I would expect a similar number of small business owners to open fire on approaching agents as now (probably somewhere close to 0). I would also expect those agents to return fire just like any other Federal law enforcement agent.
Sources of Criminal Investigations for IRS Special Agents
Criminal Investigations can be initiated from information obtained from within the IRS when a revenue agent (auditor), revenue officer (collection) or investigative analyst detects possible fraud. Information is also routinely received from the public as well as from ongoing investigations underway by other law enforcement agencies or by United States Attorneys offices across the country.
IRS Website
So how many more armed agents do you think they need? Do they say how many they want, and have they justified their number? I’m sure I live in a special bubble, but I don’t remenber any news reports of a $400k/year guy or a small business owner opening fire on approaching agents. How many more do they want, and have they said why they want that many?
I hate to beat a dead horse, but something else crossed my mind. These new agents supposedly will be armed and prepared to kill as they assist in an arrest. All we’ve been talking about is hand guns. But if you watch the news of the raid on Trump’s home those guys were toting exactly the type of weapon Beto and the rest of the gun confiscation crowd spend most of their time denouncing. And they weren’t there to arrest anyone, just gather up some boxes! The assumed perpetrator, Trump, wasn’t even there, and they knew he wasn’t there, that’s why they raided when they did. Were they expecting to come under fire from the butler and maids? The question is, if the IRS agents are armed and licensed to kill 007-style, will they show up at a small business outfitted like they’re going into battle? Am I the only one with these idiotic (David’s term) concerns? Will we start seeing bloodshed spill out into the streets at a strip mall as the IRS raids a nail salon?
Take your meds. Turn in your guns. Don’t drive. Stay home. Call your psychiatrist.
Lol at you taking up for your booster boy club member. Repeat after me, don't be a lab rat and decertify 2020
Dan...
#1 Where in the Democrat spending bill does it call for more armed IRS agents? I haven't seen anything indicating that the new 87,000 will be armed.
#2 You should do a little bit of research on the subject of armed IRS agents. They aren't what you think they are. I'll help you get started...
10, none, none, zero, no, meh, yeah,no plan needed - false premise.
Fvck it, I ever get into trouble with the irs I'll just call optima tax relief. I hear they're agents are arming themselves. 😉
Medic, I don't know where the bill calls for arming IRS agents; I've just read that the promotion put out asking for applications said applicants should be willing to employ deadly force, and then was quickly taken down. That suggests at least some of the new employees will be armed, and that is why I have asked anyone who is "for" having more armed IRS agents to say how many more they think would be needed and why. And I have never intended to imply I think all 87,000 new bureacrats will be armed. To be honest I did not know the IRS already had armed agents, I didn't know they needed to contract for 700,00 bullets for their human shaped target practice, it came as a surprise to me they exist. And I most certainly don't think there needs to be an "army" of armed IRS agents to hassle people making over $400K/year or small business owners, about which the government has obviously lied to us when they said those are the only people the 87,000 new agents (some of whom will be armed) are going to target. I think this is a disaster waiting to happen, I think the 87,000 number is astonishing and I think giving the IRS a small army of armed agents is dispicable. But like I said earlier no one in power has asked my opnion, nor do they care what it is. Finally - and I'll drop the whole thing with this last post on the subject - all I have intended to do with my comments is try and get someone to make sense of this senseless bill for me. So far no one seems to want to or be able to. The floor is yours! I'm done with it!Dan...
#1 Where in the Democrat spending bill does it call for more armed IRS agents? I haven't seen anything indicating that the new 87,000 will be armed.
#2 You should do a little bit of research on the subject of armed IRS agents. They aren't what you think they are. I'll help you get started...
I agree that adding 87,000 new IRS employees is asinine.
Dan, it's pretty routine for employers to be clear about the job/role in advertisements. Someone interested in that job should know up front what they're applying for.
What shape of targets do you think they should be training on? Square? Triangle? Cat shaped?
Why did you ask me questions? I was through talking about it! I thought I made it clear I don’t think the IRS should have *any* armed agents, and thus have no need for ammunition or targets of any shape. And I also think if they’re going to have agents who have permission to kill people they should make it equally clear it is possible they’ll run into someone who shoots back. That’s something I do have a modicum of experience with and I can tell you it changes your outlook on life with the first salvo.
Did you know that the National Park Service has SWAT teams? I hope you don't blow any gaskets thinking about that reality. Again, you should look into what the IRS CI agents actually do. It will calm those nerves.
And yeah, they do make it pretty clear that you might get shot at. Did you forget about the job advertisement you were JUT complaining about?
What I heard was the job advertisement talked about agents getting to use deadly force. I’ve heard nothing about the advertisement countering that by saying you could also be shot and killed yourself.
As for blowing any gaskets, don’t worry about me. I blew out my gaskets a looooong time ago!
Purposely obtuse? Or are you actually serious?
No, I’m telling you what I’ve read about it. And nothing I’ve read has mentioned the advertisement giving equal time to both sides of the “deadly force” equation. What have I said that seemed obtuse?
On a serious note, thank you for your service to this country. I didn't know you were a veteran.
You’re welcome, Medic, but it’s important for you to know my “service” was as an involuntary draftee slave to LBJ’s political agenda. My service consisted of being a completely expendable anonymous dot on the map, easily eliminated without remorse from my superiors and just as easily replaced with another involuntary draftee slave. So keep in mind my “service” was not with the usual honor the fantasy the government tries so hard to portray.
My friend, I wanted you to see the job qualifications for the Criminal Investigator - Special Agent positions.
There is no other job posting for IRS criminal investigation. The 300 position openings was posted in February 2022 and remains open through December 2022. The position requirements are extensive especially around accounting acumen, experience, and or education. No where in this posting does it mention firearms or willingness to use deadly force. However it does mention the following duties which might involve being armed.
- Conducts or participates in surveillance, armed escorts, dignitary protection, undercover operations, execution of search and arrest warrants, seizures, etc
I recognize this may not be the position type being mentioned within the thread but it does give people some idea of IRS criminal investigative roles.
I also think it is safe to assume Antifa or BLM participation as you suggested early on to me would not meet job qualifications, risk criteria, or especially background checks. Although given the recent FBI activity you never know how extensive the background review might be.
Here is an IRS link to the job posting
Criminal Investigator (Special Agent)
Click on "Learn more about this agency" button below to view <strong>Eligibilities</strong> being considered and other <strong>IMPORTANT</strong> information.<br> <br> For more information on each phase of the Special Agent assessment process, please visit the IRS Careers website at <a...
www.usajobs.gov
Dan, being drafted doesn't diminish your service to the country at all. Quite the opposite. You did what you were instructed to do even though you didn't volunteer for it. Asshat war mongers like Joe Biden and Dick Cheney took the chickenshit way out of serving the country. You didn't. Agree with Woody that's even more commendable.
I thank you for posting that, but our friend, Medic, posted a picture of several IRS agents standing in a group, each one of them with a sidearm strapped to his leg. I find that intolerable. I’m obviously in the tiny minority that feels that way (welcome to my world, minority viewpoint the common feature). I also find it intolerable that the government thinks its a good idea to add another 87,000 bureaucrats to its list of employees regardless of the duties to which they will be assigned. It is a slap in the face when they openly lie that these extra bureacrats will only go after rich individuals and small business owners. Sam Adams and our other revoltionary heroes must be shocked at our willingness to be so submissive, not to mention the shock they must feel as they watch so many Americans encourage the dismantling of the liberty they thought they had established in perpetuity. I wonder how many centuries it will be before another band of freedom-loving revolutionaries rises up and throws off the yoke of tyranny that is being clamped down over our necks as we meekly accept our fate. Our Founders handed to us the roadmap to social paradise and we are cheering as it gets ground into dust.My friend, I wanted you to see the job qualifications for the Criminal Investigator - Special Agent positions.
There is no other job posting for IRS criminal investigation. The 300 position openings was posted in February 2022 and remains open through December 2022. The position requirements are extensive especially around accounting acumen, experience, and or education. No where in this posting does it mention firearms or willingness to use deadly force. However it does mention the following duties which might involve being armed.
- Conducts or participates in surveillance, armed escorts, dignitary protection, undercover operations, execution of search and arrest warrants, seizures, etc
I recognize this may not be the position type being mentioned within the thread but it does give people some idea of IRS criminal investigative roles.
I also think it is safe to assume Antifa or BLM participation as you suggested early on to me would not meet job qualifications, risk criteria, or especially background checks. Although given the recent FBI activity you never know how extensive the background review might be.
Here is an IRS link to the job posting
Criminal Investigator (Special Agent)
Click on "Learn more about this agency" button below to view <strong>Eligibilities</strong> being considered and other <strong>IMPORTANT</strong> information.<br> <br> For more information on each phase of the Special Agent assessment process, please visit the IRS Careers website at <a...www.usajobs.gov
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- Carry/use a firearm. Maintaining firearm proficiency is mandatory. Ineligible for this position if ever convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, unless pardoned or conviction was expunged/set aside.
I appreciate the sentiment, Medic, I really do. But I don’t see it that way. I was a coward, pure and simple. Rather than join the anti-war/anti-draft protests and defy authoritarianism as every free person should do I allowed myself to be enslaved like the meek chikd I was. It has been a source of great shame I have lived with the rest of my life.
Sleepy and his handlers have only one agenda and that is to make the meek meeker. Unfortunate folks buy his bullshit. Trump 2024.
I know you mean well, but I’m here to tell you you are mistaken if you think Trump is the answer to our dilemma.
Our country is in a deep hole, only Trump can bring the prosperity we deserve in the near future. Trump 2024 and Desantis after. Imo sir.
This coming from someone who thinks Tulsi Gabbert is the answer
I will throw in that since he got thrown out by coup, he deserves to go in and finish his second term That he was duly elected for. If somebody after that is the answer or can beat him in 2024 then so be it. To have such trump derangement syndrome that you would want toLeave the shadow regime in place now is beyond comprehension.
No, as much as I admire and respect Tulsi Gabbard (primarily for her anti-regime change war attitude) I do not think she could pull the country out of the quicksand it has enmeshed itself into. No one person can do it, and none of us should look for one person to be our savior. Someone looking for a benign dictator would think that way. Because I’ve got news for you, my brother: there’s no such thing as a benign dictator.
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