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Inside What Even an Ally Calls Trump's “Reality Distortion Field”

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Inside What Even an Ally Calls Trump’s ‘Reality Distortion Field’

From nonexistent riots to conspiracy theories about migrants to false claims about his popularity and job-creating record, the president has offered a litany of falsehoods in the midterm campaign.

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President Trump at a campaign rally in Murphysboro, Ill., last week.CreditCreditDoug Mills/The New York Times

By Peter Baker and Linda Qiu

  • Oct. 31, 2018
As he barnstorms the country trying to help Republican allies, President Trump has offered voters this fall a litany of misleading statements and falsehoods that exaggerate even legitimate accomplishments and distort opponents’ views beyond the typical bounds of political spin.

In the past couple of weeks alone, the president has spoken of riots that have not happened, claimed deals that have not been reached, cited jobs that have not been created and spun dark conspiracies that have no apparent basis in reality. He has pulled figures seemingly out of thin air, rewritten history and contradicted his own past comments.

The catalog of inaccurate claims ranges from the weighty to the head-scratching.

He has asserted that construction has begun on his border wall (it has not), that he is one of the most popular American presidents in history (he is not), that he “always” opposed the Iraq war (he did not), that the stock market reopened the day after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 (it did not), that his tax cut was the largest in history (it was not) and that the United States is the only country that guarantees citizenship to those born here (it is not).

As he embarks on a final eight-state, 11-rally blitz before Tuesday’s midterm elections, Mr. Trump has hammered Democrats — not just for their actual policy positions but for some they have not taken. He accused them, without proof, of helping to orchestrate a caravan of Central American migrants; complained that Democrats had opposed opioid legislation when in fact they universally voted for it; and asserted that they would not protect patients with pre-existing conditions — even though that was the heart of President Barack Obama’s health care program.

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Mr. Trump’s penchant for prevarication has been a well-documented hallmark of his presidency. He dismisses journalists who point out his falsehoods as nit-pickers who do not understand that he is speaking a larger truth that resonates with many Americans. Supporters at his rallies across the country tell reporters that they understand he may not be strictly accurate in his roaring stump speeches, but they see him as a champion of their values.

Still, even some in Mr. Trump’s orbit acknowledge that this campaign season has brought out a torrent of untruths that, they worry, distracts from a record he should be proud to outline factually. “If you want me to say he’s a liar, I’m happy to say he’s a liar,” said Anthony Scaramucci, who served a highly abbreviated 11-day stint as White House communications director last year and says he remains an enthusiastic supporter.


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Speaking on CNN last week as he promoted a new book, Mr. Scaramucci was invited to offer his advice directly to the camera as if he were addressing Mr. Trump. “You should probably dial down the lying,” Mr. Scaramucci said, “because you don’t need to do it. You’re doing a great job for the country.”

Mr. Scaramucci said the president created his own truth for the purposes of storytelling. “He definitely has a reality distortion field around himself where he curves facts toward himself,” Mr. Scaramucci said on NBC’s “Today” show. “He’s living in that bubble.”

Here are 15 of Mr. Trump’s most egregious falsehoods since Oct. 22, fact-checked by category.

Too long to past the whole thing, read the rest here.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/us/politics/fact-check-trump-distortion-campaign.html
 
Just keep lying. After a while, the morons believe it unquestionably and everyone else has become numb to it.
 
It's a great conversation, the psychological deconstruction of MAGA. It is the craziest thing. The double standard about dishonesty is like a Monty Python skit. They were so crazed about anything Obama did -- spun everything like it was dishonest and Biff can lie to their faces every day and everyone KNOWS he's lying but it doesn't matter.

You watch Trump and he's child like with the constant self contradictions and lies. One tiny, random example: Michael Cohen is a great guy, now Michael Cohen is the worst lawyer ever. He'll totally contradict himself on the daily and... they could care less.

At the end of the day, I think they kind of want to see it all burn due to frustration and anxiety of their own lives. That and they are just.... so dumb that it's easy to pretend their positions are conclusions of thought when it's really just like Trump -- a child like, emotional reaction to whatever they like or don't like.
 
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I think they both have been calling plays from the exact same playbook, hoping for different results.

That is not an answer. Unless you are saying that they both tell an equal number of lies.
 
That is not an answer. Unless you are saying that they both tell an equal number of lies.

You asking about the number of lies or the number of times the lie has been repeated? Example; If you like your Dr. you can keep your Dr or maybe; you will get/see a $2,500 reduction..

The first one was said by Obama hundreds of times.
 
Bet it wasn't. Probably not even 100 times, much less hundreds of times.

But, I would count that as 1 lie. I would count any lie that Trump repeated as only 1 lie also.

Fair enough, but then he lied and said "I didn't day Dr. I said plan" so make the number x2.

In all seriousness, coming up with a number for most any politician could not be done and even if it could it would just piss me off more.

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES , yep...
 
No. I believe Obama told more lies.
In my lifetime no president lied more than Bill Clinton. Bill - and Hillary, too - are pathological liars. I don’t know if either one of them are psychologically capable of telling the truth.

That being said, I would argue that DJT is in the same ballpark. The article in the OP is exhibit A. The man seems incapable of being honest.

That being said I argue that Obama, who didn’t lie as often as Trump does, told far more serious, more meaningful, more destructive lies.

Ultimately it must be said they are all politicians, and politicians lie. Frequently, and with no compunction and no shame.
 
Fair enough, but then he lied and said "I didn't day Dr. I said plan" so make the number x2.

In all seriousness, coming up with a number for most any politician could not be done and even if it could it would just piss me off more.

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES , yep...
Shovel ready jobs...
 
Fair enough, but then he lied and said "I didn't day Dr. I said plan" so make the number x2.

In all seriousness, coming up with a number for most any politician could not be done and even if it could it would just piss me off more.

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES , yep...
The 1980s wants its foreign policy back.
 
Fair enough, but then he lied and said "I didn't day Dr. I said plan" so make the number x2.

In all seriousness, coming up with a number for most any politician could not be done and even if it could it would just piss me off more.

@CSCOTTOSUPOKES , yep...
ISIS is the JV team.
 
What a stupid thread. We talkin bout politicians lying...lying? GTFO with this shit. Ohhhhhh he lied, she lied, they lied, someone lied. Jeez.
 
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Donald Trump would be an interesting psychological study. It seems he wants what he says to be true. He so badly wants it to be true that he convinces himself he believes it. He seems to believe that if he says something with enough power, enough force, enough sincerity that he can make it true by the sheer force of his will, and everyone else will believe it too. The interesting thing is he has a need to lie about some of the most inconsequential things, like the size of the crowd at his swearing in.

On the other hand I always had the opinion that Bill Clinton lied for the sheer joy of lying. He seemed to have an unquenchable need to "put one over" on whomever he spoke to, the more the better. As if he just needed to see if he could get away with it. He knew he was lying, that he was lying on purpose. Of course he was given free rein by the media, which only seemed to spur him on.

That is the difference between Trump and Bill Clinton. Trump lies because he wants what he says to be true and hopes that by saying it, it will become true. He was quoted in a recent interview that he "tells the truth when he can." That would be laughable if it weren't so disgusting. Clinton lied because he simply couldn't help himself. It was pathological. The act of lying to the public seemed to bring him an unsurpassed joy.
 
Donald Trump would be an interesting psychological study. It seems he wants what he says to be true. He so badly wants it to be true that he convinces himself he believes it. He seems to believe that if he says something with enough power, enough force, enough sincerity that he can make it true by the sheer force of his will, and everyone else will believe it too. The interesting thing is he has a need to lie about some of the most inconsequential things, like the size of the crowd at his swearing in.

On the other hand I always had the opinion that Bill Clinton lied for the sheer joy of lying. He seemed to have an unquenchable need to "put one over" on whomever he spoke to, the more the better. As if he just needed to see if he could get away with it. He knew he was lying, that he was lying on purpose. Of course he was given free rein by the media, which only seemed to spur him on.

That is the difference between Trump and Bill Clinton. Trump lies because he wants what he says to be true and hopes that by saying it, it will become true. He was quoted in a recent interview that he "tells the truth when he can." That would be laughable if it weren't so disgusting. Clinton lied because he simply couldn't help himself. It was pathological. The act of lying to the public seemed to bring him an unsurpassed joy.

Despite decades of lying, trump isn’t a pathological liar? Huh?
 
Despite decades of lying, trump isn’t a pathological liar? Huh?
William Safire once called Hillary Clinton a congenital liar. I don't fully understand the difference between "congenital" and "pathological." But, yes, I would say Donald Trump would fit one of those descriptions. The difference I see between the Clintons and Trump is minor, I recognize. The Clintons lie because they glory in the act, it gives them a rush, it's a game they play to see how easily they can slip the noose. They are incredibly good at the game. I don't think they give a damn that they are lying. They know what they say isn't true, and they don't care. Where Trump differs from them, as I see it, is he wants what he says to be true, even though he knows it isn't. Again, it's a small difference, but that's how I see it.
 
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