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Indoctrinating the kids

Clinton's Surgeon General already tried this indoctrination approach. Joycelyn Elders advocated teaching beginning elementary school students to masturbate.
 
Clinton's Surgeon General already tried this indoctrination approach. Joycelyn Elders advocated teaching beginning elementary school students to masturbate.
Outrageous.
At a 1994 United Nations conference on AIDS, Elders was asked if she thought teaching children about masturbation might reduce unsafe sex. Yes, she replied, "I think that is something that is a part of human sexuality, and it's a part of something that perhaps should be taught. But we've not even taught our children the very basics."
 
Outrageous.
At a 1994 United Nations conference on AIDS, Elders was asked if she thought teaching children about masturbation might reduce unsafe sex. Yes, she replied, "I think that is something that is a part of human sexuality, and it's a part of something that perhaps should be taught. But we've not even taught our children the very basics."

I guess the basics now start with confusing kids over gender identity.
 
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I guess the basics now start with confusing kids over gender identity.
Such a little China Doll on these issues... I don't know about you but I can convince my kids of simple things like keeping their room clean let alone their gender identity.
 
Such a little China Doll on these issues... I don't know about you but I can convince my kids of simple things like keeping their room clean let alone their gender identity.

I am not proposing this, are you a proponent of teaching kids gender identity? Simple yes / no. I find this all sad and hilarious at the same time. Evidently you are a china doll if you are unable to parent better then that.
 
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I am not proposing this, are you a proponent of teaching kids gender identity? Simple yes / no. I find this all sad and hilarious at the same time. Evidently you are a china doll if you are unable to parent better then that.
You're a China Doll if you think that video is anything of consequence.

"Teaching kids gender identity " - what does that mean? If you mean acknowledgement that some small percentage of the population identify themselves contrary to their hardware then yeah go ahead and acknowledge reality. Do you mean something else?
 
My kids went to a private Catholic school in their elementary years. Now they would be at one through high school or homeschooled.
 
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You're a China Doll if you think that video is anything of consequence.

"Teaching kids gender identity " - what does that mean? If you mean acknowledgement that some small percentage of the population identify themselves contrary to their hardware then yeah go ahead and acknowledge reality. Do you mean something else?

If you pull prayer and religion out of the class room you need not take away the rights of parents to teach about the hardware. Religion is not science, people that identify themselves differently then their DNA is outside of known science. Science knows your exact gender, the known science should be taught, straight to the facts and over. It should be a parents right to teach identifying other then what your DNA is no differently then religion. Some may feel gender identity is a religious issue, and you may disagree with that but it does not give anyone the right to throw religion out of the class room under sacred parenting rights and replace it with this. Once you open the door...give an inch and take a mile. We see teachers at the college level teaching their personal extreme political views, it should not start with young kids and taking away the rights of parents to have this discussion. Young kids can be extremely mean, just opening this can of worms when perhaps they are too young to comprehend and be given proper parental direction and potential brain washing different then the beliefs of a parent is wrong. We do not need kids thinking at a young age that choosing a gender is as easy as picking out a pair of shoes and that is ok when they are unable to properly process the implications. I believe you have someone gay in your household? I seem to remember that, could be wrong. So, do not take this personal and respect the rights of parents to parent and teach their kids no differently then what has happened in the class room over prayer and religion.
 
If you pull prayer and religion out of the class room you need not take away the rights of parents to teach about the hardware. Religion is not science, people that identify themselves differently then their DNA is outside of known science. Science knows your exact gender, the known science should be taught, straight to the facts and over. It should be a parents right to teach identifying other then what your DNA is no differently then religion. Some may feel gender identity is a religious issue, and you may disagree with that but it does not give anyone the right to throw religion out of the class room under sacred parenting rights and replace it with this. Once you open the door...give an inch and take a mile. We see teachers at the college level teaching their personal extreme political views, it should not start with young kids and taking away the rights of parents to have this discussion. Young kids can be extremely mean, just opening this can of worms when perhaps they are too young to comprehend and be given proper parental direction and potential brain washing different then the beliefs of a parent is wrong. We do not need kids thinking at a young age that choosing a gender is as easy as picking out a pair of shoes and that is ok when they are unable to properly process the implications. I believe you have someone gay in your household? I seem to remember that, could be wrong. So, do not take this personal and respect the rights of parents to parent and teach their kids no differently then what has happened in the class room over prayer and religion.
Parents can parent however they like, no argument there. Pride celebrations don't infringe on your ability to teach whatever you like as to the morality of life choices.

That some people's software disagrees with their hardware is a reality. Who is advocating for convincing kids to "pick a gender"?

We went through this with some friends of ours when their daughter strongly identified with more masculine traits about 5 years ago. They struggled with how to proceed, opting for supporting the kiddo as she explored different ways of dress, shortened her name, got a crew cut, etc. Good loving parents IMO help their kids find their way rather than shaming them into compliance with norms. As a 15 year old now she is a tom girl going by her short name who is well adjusted and doing fine.
 
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Parents can parent however they like, no argument there. Pride celebrations don't infringe on your ability to teach whatever you like as to the morality of life choices.

That some people's software disagrees with their hardware is a reality. Who is advocating for convincing kids to "pick a gender"?

We went through this with some friends of ours when their daughter strongly identified with more masculine traits about 5 years ago. They struggled with how to proceed, opting for supporting the kiddo as she explored different ways of dress, shortened her name, got a crew cut, etc. Good loving parents IMO help their kids find their way rather than shaming them into compliance with norms. As a 15 year old now she is a tom girl going by her short name who is well adjusted and doing fine.

No one is suggesting shaming anyone and certainly you are not suggesting pride celebrations in school so that point is meaningless.

If you have no problem with this being taught in school good for you, but understand many parents will disagree strongly and that does not suggest those parents would shame anyone and sad you even bring it up. Surely you are not suggesting a school’s role is to anticipate shaming on this topic only and to “fix it” before such a theoretical problem actually exists.

If you believe religion has no place in school over a parent’s right to control religious messaging, to suggest this is acceptable is extremely inconsistent IMO. It is not the school’s role to parent or for a teacher to have dialogue that can raise more questions then answers and for a teacher to play Monday morning therapist and inject themselves in to answering questions that is under the domain of the parent.

Do you believe schools should teach traditional judeo Christian literature as an acceptable form of identity identification and to have Christian prayer in school? Or any other religion to identify with? Fact is people identify to it, so what is the big deal? I mean maybe this should be done before kids are shamed to be devil worshippers.
 
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No one is suggesting shaming anyone and certainly you are not suggesting pride celebrations in school so that point is meaningless.

If you have no problem with this being taught in school good for you, but understand many parents will disagree strongly and that does not suggest those parents would shame anyone and sad you even bring it up. Surely you are not suggesting a school’s role is to anticipate shaming on this topic only and to “fix it” before such a theoretical problem actually exists.

If you believe religion has no place in school over a parent’s right to control religious messaging, to suggest this is acceptable is extremely inconsistent IMO. It is not the school’s role to parent or for a teacher to have dialogue that can raise more questions then answers and for a teacher to play Monday morning therapist and inject themselves in to answering questions that is under the domain of the parent.

Do you believe schools should teach traditional judeo Christian literature as an acceptable form of identity identification and to have Christian prayer in school? Or any other religion to identify with? Fact is people identify to it, so what is the big deal? I mean maybe this should be done before kids are shamed to be devil worshippers.
Pride celebrations in schools? Why not? If the gay student association wants to hold a mini parade - go for it!

As to shaming, that still happens sadly. As you alluded to I observed a 10 year ordeal from denial to shaming to grudging acceptance to embracing people for who they are. Good people coming to grips with the choices of their amazing daughter and her just as amazing partner. It pained me to see the needless suffering on both sides.

Prayer in schools? No thanks. FCA as a club activity - sure no problem. Acknowledging, even teaching, about the wide array of religions/philosophies is absolutely within a schools domain.

Any other questions I can answer?
 
Outrageous.
At a 1994 United Nations conference on AIDS, Elders was asked if she thought teaching children about masturbation might reduce unsafe sex. Yes, she replied, "I think that is something that is a part of human sexuality, and it's a part of something that perhaps should be taught. But we've not even taught our children the very basics."

"Should be taught"

Who on here was taught?
Who should teach it?
 
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This just happened — thank God for the rescued children.

These types of stories have happened a LOT throughout Trump’s entire presidency — mass raids and arrests like this, throughout the country, and quite often.

They usually only make local news stations, and only for a short time. How a story like this is not the leading story of our nation defies the imagination — with the incomprehensible number of children who were rescued.


 
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Bullshit. Gay pride parades have just as much a place in public schools as a parade celebrating the ascension of Jesus.

Fact is it’s “cool” to be anything but heterosexual with many youth today due to indoctrination.

What do you know.

Progressives preaching progress and evolution.

Tell, me. How is preaching a decrease in the expansion of a species evolving toward progress of said species?

Pussyhats
 
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