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Important re the left's embrace of violence and Antifa

And which culture is that?
Islam. Until the left acknowledges Islam's problem with gays and women and democracy its moralistic lectures to Middle America will continue to fall on deaf ears and it will continue to suffer horrendous consequences at the polls.
 
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And how has the left made "common cause" with Islam?
The left refuses to drop it's obsession against conservative christians long enough to face the fact that a disproportionately high percentage of islam's adherents are committed to a rigid view of seventh-century Islam, and their constant and deadly actions confirm their desire to instigate an apocalyptic confrontation with the west. President Obama wouldn't even use the words radical Islamic terrorism. There seems to be an underlying kinship at play, and that is probably because, with these islamists, the left has found a large group of people who hate the west and the United States as much, if not more so, than it does. The mayor of London cannot even acknowledge that the huge presence of islamists in that city raises the risk of radical Islamic terrorism. He says that is just the cost of living in a huge, international metropolis. The deal that the left has made with Islam lies in the fact that it can not call by name the realities associated with it.
 
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And how has the left made "common cause" with Islam?

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The left refuses to drop it's obsession against conservative christians

I don't know what you mean by this. If you mean that the left opposes discrimination against homosexuals and supported legalizing homosexual marriage (something traditional Muslims would not support btw), that is not an obsession against conservative Christians. If you mean that the left supports freedom of religion and opposes our government favoring one religion over another, that too isn't an obsession against conservative Christians.

President Obama wouldn't even use the words radical Islamic terrorism.

Yes, because it is not helpful. It doesn't help accomplish our international goals.

This doesn't mean though Obama or the left had "common cause" with Islam. To make such a leap is absurd.

There seems to be an underlying kinship at play, and that is probably because, with these islamists, the left has found a large group of people who hate the west and the United States as much, if not more so, than it does.

So support for religious freedom and opposition to religious discrimination indicates an underlying kinship with Islam? Supporting a religious pluralistic society indicates an underlying kinship with Islam? Seeking to build bridges with the international Muslim community indicates an underlying kinship?

That is what the left supports. If you think somehow this indicates an underlying kinship with Islam, I really don't know what to say. I would argue that these positions indicate an underlying kinship with the United States Constitution.

btw, the left doesn't hate the west or the United States. I am a leftist, and I don't hate the United States. I am proud to be an American. Are there people on the left who hate the United States? Sure. But there are people on the right who hate the United States! Does this mean that "the right" hates the United States just because some on the right do?

Just because those on the left don't share your vision of the United States doesn't mean they hate the U.S.

The deal that the left has made with Islam lies in the fact that it can not call by name the realities associated with it.

The left has not made any "deal" with Islam.

No offense Guns, but you sound a lot like the Know-Nothings who use to claim certain political leaders were making "deals" with and sharing a "common cause" with those evil Catholics. What it looks like you are really advocating is nativism.

If that is the case, then yes, the left is not nativist. I believe that is a positive though, not a negative
 
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I don't know what you mean by this. If you mean that the left opposes discrimination against homosexuals and supported legalizing homosexual marriage (something traditional Muslims would not support btw), that is not an obsession against conservative Christians. If you mean that the left supports freedom of religion and opposes our government favoring one religion over another, that too isn't an obsession against conservative Christians.

Yes, because it is not helpful. It doesn't help accomplish our international goals.

This doesn't mean though Obama or the left had "common cause" with Islam. To make such a leap is absurd.



So support for religious freedom and opposition to religious discrimination indicates an underlying kinship with Islam? Supporting a religious pluralistic society indicates an underlying kinship with Islam? Seeking to build bridges with the international Muslim community indicates an underlying kinship?

That is what the left supports. If you think somehow this indicates an underlying kinship with Islam, I really don't know what to say. I would argue that these positions indicate an underlying kinship with the United States Constitution.

btw, the left doesn't hate the west or the United States. I am a leftist, and I don't hate the United States. I am proud to be an American. Are there people on the left who hate the United States? Sure. But there are people on the right who hate the United States! Does this mean that "the right" hates the United States just because some on the right do?

Just because those on the left don't share your vision of the United States doesn't mean they hate the U.S.



The left has not made any "deal" with Islam.

No offense Guns, but you sound a lot like the Know-Nothings who use to claim certain political leaders were making "deals" with and sharing a "common cause" with those evil Catholics. What it looks like you are really advocating is nativism.

If that is the case, then yes, the left is not nativist. I believe that is a positive though, not a negative
Note the Clemson professor who recently advocated violence against Republicans but stands silent in the face of actual, real and regularly committed violence and terrorism from islamists and from the likes of left-wing groups such as antifa. The left will suffer veritable bloodbaths in upcoming elections in this country. Maybe this will help you understand why.
 
Note the Clemson professor who recently advocated violence against Republicans but stands silent in the face of actual, real and regularly committed violence and terrorism from islamists and from the likes of left-wing groups such as antifa. The left will suffer veritable bloodbaths in upcoming elections in this country. Maybe this will help you understand why.

You are silly.

I have never seen you post anything negative about the Nazi party or the KKK. Therefore (based on your logic), you strongly support those groups.
 
Nothing about the Clemson professor who is advocating violence?

I thought it was blatantly obvious that no one should advocate violence in a civilized democratic society. Do I have to spell it out to prove that I don't support such actions?
 
I thought it was blatantly obvious that no one should advocate violence in a civilized democratic society. Do I have to spell it out to prove that I don't support such actions?

Extending that assumption and goodwill to people you disagree with culturally and politically is not the modus operandi of modern leftists.

So...yes, if you play by leftist rules, you do need to spell it out.
 
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