Immigrate, enlist, serve, become a citizen? Sure. Until now.
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They discharge 'dozens' in a program of 'thousands'. I'll bet there's more to this story than "OMG, they're from Mexico".
And if I were a bettin’ fella, I might wager that if this turns out to be true, it’s probably been true for a least a prior presidential term or two.
That article is from September 2017, by the way.
Also, from said article:
Some anti-immigration sentiment has swirled in the Pentagon for years, former staffers have said, with personnel and security officials from the Obama administration larding the immigrant recruiting process with additional security checks for visa holders already vetted by the Departments of State and Homeland Security.
Hmm.
So the military has to hire foreign nationals to have a fully stocked military because libs would rather have mercenaries to fight and die in their place for them and the mercenaries are not even citizens. Seems unethical to have this practice when you are enforcing your borders, and how many families are being pulled apart? How hard are these people going to fight when they are not even a citizen of this country. Is their goal citizenship or defending this country?
So this is an employer pulling employment contracts, something the employer has a right to do, whether you like it or not.
Morally this seems wrong to me, we have no draft currently yet we are going to sign up foreign nationals to the military to possibly go die to become a Citizen. It would be safer when they cross the border illegally to pay them to build the wall, that will not get them killed.
So this is an employer pulling employment contracts, something the employer has a right to do, whether you like it or not.
Morally this seems wrong to me, we have no draft currently yet we are going to sign up foreign nationals to the military to possibly go die to become a Citizen. It would be safer when they cross the border illegally to pay them to build the wall, that will not get them killed.
The only thing I have heard from my military police son in law is the army has as a gang problem and that he thinks this is related.
So a few dozen foreign nationals get general discharges and now there is a conspiracy to end a policy that has pretty much existed since colonial days?
Can you say manufactured outrage?
Can you say manufactured outrage?
Of course CSCOTT’s TDS made him assume this was Trump being a racist. LOL. Carry on.
I’d be interested in seeing the actual proof of No One’s claims.
Or is this one of those “not verified, but reliable” posters on the interwebz I keep hearing about?
Yup, pretty much my point. There is contra “news” to pretty much everything the Trump wannabe murderer posts, but he always falls for the darkest side of the Trump fake news.
And you seem to fall for the brightest side of Trump fake news more often than not as well.
Just my opinion based upon my observation.
Tribe politics are awful...maybe don’t engage in it.
Again...my opinion.
And you seem afraid to form an opinion on about anything other then critiqueing everyone on the board and criticizing both sides of the aisle (which I agree with), but that is a nice safe space to carve out for oneself.
In case you have not noticed a political war is being waged in this country, sitting on the sidelines and being classy is not going to get it done. I have been hoping for about the last 15 years to see both party members voted out and decorum to return in this country, it is not happening anytime soon, if ever.
Trump’s personality although highly abrasive is highly effective dealing with government forces that was clearly intent on bringing him down shortly after being elected. So, as long as Trump does nothing illegal I say wipe out the extreme libs that I see as a serious threat to this country. Obama brought dirty Chicago politics to Washington DC along with the dictator attitude of elections have consequences and the power of his pen which he used to avoid congress.
Playing by the current rules, and there is no doubt in my mind the libs have more reason to lie and play dirty politics for no other reason they want to be back in power and they are doing so.
Unlike some on this board, I have never wished for any government official to be killed, and let me know what Conservative stars openly said they want the WH bombed like Madonna while thousands cheered.
I know which I side I am on, not going to apologize for it. Trump steps in it I will want him to be held accountable.
In the meantime he can make of fun of Libs all he wants because it is mild compared to the war being waged against him.
All just my opinion, which I am entitled to.
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I have and give plenty of opinions....just not to either idiotic extreme. Binary, black and white thinking like you exhibit here is for losers....whichever side of the coin you decide to adopt,
Thanks for confirming my opinion of you...you’re slightly less worse than Clinton. Congratulations on that. There are different strains of TDS. You are a sufferer of the pro-strain.
No, I don’t blindly follow Trump. Trump is fixing SCOTUS, he is not the perfect candidate. I am far more anti lib then pro Trump. I see libs going down a seriously bad path. But you sure seem to enjoy tagging people and calling them names. Showing some hate here IMO....is that a loser quality?
Extreme libs are scum of the earth, I actually hold moderate lib views on some things. I make my vote count, Trump not an ideal candidate but if he can save us for the extreme libs good for him. Unlike the libs I am not asking at all costs.
I also do not want conservative extremists in office.
You also confirmed my opinion of you. Probably a lot of common space for us to share but evidently your hate is to much.
Yeah, you do. I don’t believe I have ever seen you question or criticize anything he has done. Your actions and statements here belie your claims of moderation.
You live in a black and white world where the people you disagree with are “scum of the earth”. You are such a binary tribalist, you don’t even realize it.
But I don’t hate you for it. I just disagree with you.
People wanting people killed over politics is not disagreeing with me, that is scummy people, and you call that tribalist? Politicians asking people to harass people due to their political beliefs is not disagreeing with me, that is pathetic behavior. Kids being attacked for a MAGA hat is not disagreeing with me, that is sociopathic behavior. Libs black balling people out of Hollywood jobs over their political views is not disagreeing with me, that is pathetic behavior meant to silence people. Libs on TV saying 63 million Trump supporters need to be targeted by the government and aired by a lib major network is scummy people doing scummy things, that is not debating my political beliefs, that is bad behavior.
I generally do not hate people, I dislike and hate behaviors, and as an attorney I would think you might understand that nuance.
I can respect people with a different opinion then mine, to be good in the business world you better encourage an alternate view to make a decision with. 360 degree view of the landscape.
You are so black and white in your thinking about me you can not even see it.
I will take you at your word it is not hate for you, I have serious doubts your black and white thinking about me and your tagging of me will allow you to understand me at my own words. Who is acting on black and white behavior here, and making some big assumptions?
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Yeah, you’re not really making a case for you being non-tribal with that post. In fact, you’re kinda making my case for me.
I’m not making any assumptions. It’s not black and white thinking by me. It’s an opinion based upon observation of your behavior here.
I am just reading your posts. They reflect no moderation, no nuanced positions, no criticism of anything Trump has done. Just all the other side is “scum of the earth” all the time.
Might want to think about that.
I’m not making any assumptions. It’s not black and white thinking by me. It’s an opinion based upon observation of your behavior here.
I am just reading your posts. They reflect no moderation, no nuanced positions, no criticism of anything Trump has done. Just all the other side is “scum of the earth” all the time.
Might want to think about that.
So you are ok with all those behaviors I described? If you think it is all about tribalism then show me how or where I defended my “tribe” for that exact behavior? Show me how my tribe asked for the WH to be blown up and I defended it or was silent? Show me where my “tribe” asked to attack people with certain political views and again I defended it.
You ever stop to think I am for strong borders, stopping illegal immigration, smaller government, less taxes, less fed power, more state power, super strong military, more conservative justices? Fixing healthcare, more jobs, etc...What does that have to do with Trump?
I think you might be ate up with TDS.
I am also for legalized pot, although I am religious and I am not pro abortion I do not believe turning back abortion will solve anything and I am for teaching and making adoption the solution, that IS the solution.
Painting with a broad stroke here, show me all the posts me calling people scum of the earth.
If you do not want to call out all of those bad behaviors WTH are you afraid of? Someone like you saying you are exhibiting tribal behavior? I will call out that behavior on anyone.
As for criticizing Trump? I have, but what can I add to his criticism that already has not been said? Almost all of it over the top, how do you criticize Trump at a reasonable level when those who do, do so at a 10 and criticizing him at 3 or 4 level and you are seen as defending him?
Might want to think about things yourself, evidently you require criticism of Trump on a personal level in order to take one’s political view serious even if it happens to be what Trump ran on.
As for nuances, some things actually are right or wrong believe it or not.
I am not asking for Madonna to be silenced, but I do not want her ilk running the country.
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Where did I ever say I was okay with that behavior? You haven’t exactly called out your tribe for the same behavior though have you? No...you haven’t.
You are still exhibiting complete and utter tribalism.
You’re giving lip service to being moderate and not tribal, but with every post you make you reinforce my opinion developed over time based upon the rest of your posts. Yeah it’s reasonable to expect that someone claiming not to be tribal to occasionally call out specific behavior on both sides. You don’t do that.
Just own it....or don’t....I don’t really care one way or the other. Not real sure why you’re so concerned about my opinion of you anyway. 4 long posts trying to convince me otherwise. Just like you say you’re entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to my opinion of you. Don’t like that opinion? Too bad, honestly.
Put up or shut up. What similar behavior has my “tribe” exhibited?
Not very nuanced of you. I do not have a tribe, that is your label.
I dislike hateful behavior by individuals. But please do put up the evidence of seriously bad behavior by my “tribe” and how I defended it. Real bad behavior, not difference of an opinion as you confuse.
Let’s stay away from name calling and get to people either wishing physical harm upon people, inflicting personal harm for that personal beliefs or color, hurting their ability to make a living again based on beliefs or color, etc...
Please expose all of these tribal sins, I will denounce them all.
Counselor, tribes do not exhibit bad behavior, people do, perhaps you should stop profiling
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Lol.
You dislike “hateful behavior”....but let’s stay away from name calling as being “hateful behavior”.
I wonder why?
Asking me to prove to you to your satisfaction that you are biased is an exercise in futility.
According to you in these posts, your side doesn’t exhibit hateful behavior, it’s only the left that does that. Lord, what a perfect expression of tribalism right there...case closed.
I have an opinion of you based upon your posts here. I’m entitled to it. If you don’t like it, you’re just gonna have to deal with it deal. Not my problem if you can’t.
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Lol.
You dislike “hateful behavior”....but let’s stay away from name calling.
I wonder why?
I have an opinion of you based upon your posts here.
Deal with it.
Being hurt over simple name calling is for pussy's, you walk away. Deal with the fact you can not provide the evidence I asked for and you are full of crap, hence your opinion is based on profiling and not facts.
Pot meet kettle.
That’s pretty hateful right there.
My opinion is based upon your history of posts here.
Don’t feel the need to try to convince you to agree with my opinion of you. That’s just incredibly silly.
You don’t like my opinion?
I don’t care.
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I find myself seeing 2 paragraphs of okstate’s posts then scanning the entire 10 or 15 and just saying fvck it.
The brevity thing, El Duderino. Work on it.
The brevity thing, El Duderino. Work on it.
So you saying you have proof I supported
people to punch on behalf of Trump?
Are you saying I would defend that?
Not very nuanced of you as JD would say.
I thought you did not care?
I do not approve of Trump saying that, you really believe I would approve of it? I told YOU I would denounce it and did.
Make you happy? Or do you not care? Or do you only care as long as your version of profiling is accepted?
@CSCOTTOSUPOKES someone advocating the murder of a sitting US President such as you is exhibit A of the extreme left thinking in this country that needs to not hold one day in office, ever. You have no standing on this issue.
BTW, I looked up the secret service regional office, they prefer phone calls and not emails to report people like you, actually encourage it. I figure if Trump ever visits Oklahoma they better have an eye on you.
Denounce:
publicly declare to be wrong or evil.
Which you didn’t do when he said those things.
Which is kind of the point.
No it is your point, I asked the poster if he expected I would not denounce it, it was nuanced. I wanted to know if he was profiling me and if he said yes I would have made him look silly for profiling, because of course I would denounce it.
I was also hoping you would feed me up the opportunity to denounce but you knew it was a waste of time and did not do so, I also expected my response to pull you back out of that closet on this, just to prove how much you really did not care about this and show you full of BS again.
I am more nuanced then you think. Thanks for posting.
