If a Muslim terrorist detonated a bomb that killed thousands of people
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Standing in solidarity for sure. Maybe some Facebook profile picture overlays. And of course more economic opportunities for the terrorist's friends and family members.
A concert would be helpful too.
Sounds like no one wants to take your question seriously. At least none of the first 4 replies to your question. Let's get some clarification.
Are we talking about a radical Muslim terrorist who detonates a bomb, in the U.S., killing thousands (since you said "thousands", let's assume that 2-3000 individuals are dead), as well as injuring "thousands" more.?
Depends on where the attackers country of origin.
Say they were Iranian, we would invade Yemen.
If they were ISIS, we would launch cruise missiles at Somalia.
Something along those lines are our typical response in the past.
Say they were Iranian, we would invade Yemen.
If they were ISIS, we would launch cruise missiles at Somalia.
Something along those lines are our typical response in the past.
Another tongue in cheek response to your question HSH. Apparently no one wants to give a serious answer.
More info is needed, but my response is accurate based on our prior history.
We were attacked by 19 Saudis from al-Qaeda based in the outskirts of Afghanistan/Pakistan and we invaded Iraq.
We were attacked by 19 Saudis from al-Qaeda based in the outskirts of Afghanistan/Pakistan and we invaded Iraq.
After 9-11, it was said that Bush told the Saudis that any more attacks on the US would result in turning Mecca and Medina into molten glass. I don't know if that is true or not.
If Muslims did blow up a bomb which killed thousands, and it could be proven where the perps came from or who sponsored them, something along the lines of absolute destruction of a similar target would not be unwarranted.
If Muslims did blow up a bomb which killed thousands, and it could be proven where the perps came from or who sponsored them, something along the lines of absolute destruction of a similar target would not be unwarranted.
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Now hold on. There's no need to rush to judgement. Maybe it wasn't a terrorist attack. Maybe it was in response to an incident of Islamophobia. If that's the case, the blown up people would certainly be Trump supporters (fascists!) and therefore our response will to blame conservatives since they had it coming.
Serious response: It is such unconventional warfare it's difficult to know what to do. If it was a uniformed nation state or something I would say respond-in-kind with 10x the casualties and they may get the message pretty quick. Since it is not, we can't just bomb indiscriminately. As Cowboy Phil stated above, we tried that with Iraq (even though the hijackers were Saudis) and it may be the worst foreign policy blunder in US History. One that our CIA, the New York Times, Military Industrial Complex, etc. manufactured/said we needed. There's no doubt that our Middle East bombathons have indirectly created more terrorists from surviving family members. I see this as a dead end.
So, I think we need to look inward. I think we should elect political leaders who have the courage to speak the truth. Political Islam is incompatible with Western Liberal values. You can argue with me until you're blue in the face, and I would simply point you to the Quran's own teachings. I would hope another Islam-inspired attack within the U.S that had casualties in the 1000s would further deteriorate political correctness so we can have a frank discussion in this country about Islamic propaganda currently going on in (see San Diego). It's sickening the doublespeak that is spoke about the Left's latest and greatest victim class:
So, I think we need to look inward. I think we should elect political leaders who have the courage to speak the truth. Political Islam is incompatible with Western Liberal values. You can argue with me until you're blue in the face, and I would simply point you to the Quran's own teachings. I would hope another Islam-inspired attack within the U.S that had casualties in the 1000s would further deteriorate political correctness so we can have a frank discussion in this country about Islamic propaganda currently going on in (see San Diego). It's sickening the doublespeak that is spoke about the Left's latest and greatest victim class:
- Islamaphobia: a phobia is an irrational fear
- People who don't like Muslims are racist: Islam is not a race
- Islam is a Religion of Peace
- Muslims are the true feminists
I think the answer is pretty obvious.
-Determine who the perpetrator is.
-Determine if he acted alone or is part of a group.
-If he is part of a group, track down the other members and arrest them (assuming they haven't skipped the country) and prosecute them for their crimes.
-If he represents a radical group (let's say ISIS), we announce how we are going to rain down hell on them and increase our efforts to quash them.
-Send in more planes/drones/artillery/maybe troops to attempt to rock their world
-Determine how the terrorist managed to get into this country (assuming he wasn't born here) and take steps to prevent another terrorist from getting in the same way.
-Moan and groan about how this wouldn't have happened if Trump's travel ban hadn't been shot down by the SCOTUS.
-Attempt to alleviate tensions between U.S. Muslims and lunatics who think it is OK to beat them/shoot them simply because they are wearing Muslim clothing or speaking a ME/Indian language.
On our soil? When it happens, it is too late. Protect our borders so we do not have to retaliate. Put resources in prevention. I would invest heavily in monitoring Facebook, etc...I would invest in getting a bunch more people undercover in mosques and getting involved in the pockets of society terrorist activity is the most likely to fester and grow. Identify these people before they act and arrest them.
Provide significant monetary awards to leads that prevent terrorism.
I thought we use to have laws on our books that prevented you from threatening to kill anyone, we need to enforce the laws and jail those that threaten to kill people. Free speech never intended death threats. My dad taught me at a very young age to NEVER joke about killing the President.
Build more jails if we need to, or put them in chain gangs and build the wall with their labor. I am not suggesting working them to death, treat them like construction workers except they sleep in a jail each night.
We can have serious law enforcement IMO while minimally infringing on rights. Things get out of hand, we will lose some freedoms. Ask some women in Sweden if they feel safe to walk certain streets?
I like strong law enforcement, and if I ever have interaction with police I will do exactly as they say and say yes sir.
We need to allow true investigative work without yelling racial profiling.
In the 60's to investigate the lynching of an African American I would be first looking for
a white male with possible ties to the KKK and a white hood and rob hidden somewhere. If leads took me elsewhere fine, but common sense tells you the highest probability of identifying the murderer in some situations.
I would remove all hate laws, the laws were on our books before we passed all of that, just enforce the dang laws, they apply to everyone. Murder is murder and all lives are equal.
Provide significant monetary awards to leads that prevent terrorism.
I thought we use to have laws on our books that prevented you from threatening to kill anyone, we need to enforce the laws and jail those that threaten to kill people. Free speech never intended death threats. My dad taught me at a very young age to NEVER joke about killing the President.
Build more jails if we need to, or put them in chain gangs and build the wall with their labor. I am not suggesting working them to death, treat them like construction workers except they sleep in a jail each night.
We can have serious law enforcement IMO while minimally infringing on rights. Things get out of hand, we will lose some freedoms. Ask some women in Sweden if they feel safe to walk certain streets?
I like strong law enforcement, and if I ever have interaction with police I will do exactly as they say and say yes sir.
We need to allow true investigative work without yelling racial profiling.
In the 60's to investigate the lynching of an African American I would be first looking for
a white male with possible ties to the KKK and a white hood and rob hidden somewhere. If leads took me elsewhere fine, but common sense tells you the highest probability of identifying the murderer in some situations.
I would remove all hate laws, the laws were on our books before we passed all of that, just enforce the dang laws, they apply to everyone. Murder is murder and all lives are equal.
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If you can identify the perp bring them to justice for sure. But if not? Prevention.
General westmoreland would love this strategy. Kill a bunch of people and do nothing for the long term problem. You would make more terrorists who are even more determined than ever to come up with a bigger attack.
If it was prompted by a Youtube video, you kinda got to see their point (the terrorists).
Totally agree. I'm just telling you what WOULD happen. Not what should happen.
Follow the Polish, Hungarian, Czech, Slovakian and Serbian prevention strategy --- and follow their lead in telling George Soros and his NGOs to GTFO.
Not really. Maybe the wording was satirical, but that as a realistic response is not. Unfortunately it wouldn't be the first time Islamic terrorism has been blamed on Islamophobia and it isn't progressives who get accused of Islamophobia. Remember the guy the Obama administration blamed for the Benghazi terrorist attack? He was jailed for his video.
I don't think you believe that what you stated would be a realistic response to Harry's scenario. I guess you could argue that a very small number of people might try to paint it as such, but I don't think it would be a pervasive accepted response/explanation. I doubt that you disagree with me if you really think about it.
I do disagree because of what I've watched come out of the media and our politicians mouths over the past 8 years. I'm not bashing you. You're just like me in most of your beliefs. I've just never been able to stomach the rhetoric that Islamophobia causes and/or enables terrorism. And it always comes up.
I do acknowledge some satire in that post though.
I've already said it before. it involves killing a shit ton of civilians as in WWII. The muslims will be our friends just like the Japanese are now. Stomping cockroaches in the kitchen does nothing. Vietcong. Taliban. Al queda. Isis. If we want to truly live in peace we must break the back of eastern Islam and force westernization upon them.
I'll add what I've stated before. I firmly believe our invasion of entire countries to punish a few is #1 on the charts of why Muslims Hate America, followed closely by things like drone attacks to kill a few but also kills people who were doing nothing but living life, minding their own biz, and raising goats for meat.
That's not an answer though.
I will answer this. Just got home from work. Need some time.
I don't think what you are suggesting would be applicable if thousands died and thousands were injured. Numbers that big would prevent anyone from playing that game.
I don't see how that plan results in anything other than creating more radical terrorists."who are even more determined than ever to come up with a bigger attack".
Ok fine. We'll invade and overthrow the government of a country that we think was responsible for harboring the terrorists and training camps and begin another 16+ year occupation and nation building in the name of democracy and western values.
The problem becomes who exactly will that be? Saudi Arabia? Nope. They buy hundreds of billions of dollars of military equipment. Probably not Qatar because they spend money too. Jordan, Egypt, UAE? Probably not. Kuwait, no. Won't be Yemen because then we'd be fighting Iran too. We certainly won't do anything with Syria. Mother Russia would not approve. Pakistan spends to much.
It doesn't matter who the country is or even if they actually supported the terrorists. It just needs to be some past that we can get the UN to say yes. That leaves us Iraq and Afghanistan again, or move on into North Africa.
That was too much typing. I should have just typed the same cowboy bullshit we did last time.
See my earlier post...
The problem is that there is no solution. All we have is the same empty, useless actions that we have already attempted.
IMO, there is no realistic solution, other than what you and I have already discussed. Get out of the ME/North Africa and leave them to kill each other off, or for their governments to reign them in.
Of course, Iran and Israel both constitute unique issues that make this idea difficult/unrealistic.
I literally gave you an example. Who was the first prime minister to visit the us after the election? The country we fire bombed and dropped two a bombs on.
If I were in charge of the response, it would be much different than what I outlined above. I'm a hateful bastard when it comes to paybacks.
I would put together the largest special operations strike force in the history of the worlds. US. Canada. Russia. Europe. Korea. Japan. Mexico. You get my point. I would also assemble the largest intelligence gathering apparatus ever. I would open the wallet of Uncle Sam and pay people top dollar, like making people multi millionaires top dollar, along with relocation to the country of their choice, to rat out those responsible.
The strike teams will deploy to hunt and apprehend those responsible, killing only if necessary for self defense, and I would ship them to Guantanamo Bay. I'd turn Guantanamo Bay into the yugest and bestest torture facility known in the world. I'd have them ruthlessly tortured until they gave up information to continue to round up the perps. If they try to choose death over talking, I'll kindly remind them that along with dying, they will have their bodies stuffed with raw pork, they'll be coated in pig blood, and then their carcass will be dumped on the beach ass up for dogs and crabs to rape and for the wildlife to eat.
Once I'm fairly sure they've all been rounded up, I'll start having televised mass torture events. Think ISIS but without people dying. I'd televise the most heinous torture that has ever been thought of. Well probably not the worst, but bad shit. It will be framed as a public service announcement to educate radical Muslims on what not to do. That torture will also serve to break the soul of the tortured terrorists.
Once broken, I'd lure them into transformation with temptations and privilege. Once on board, I'd begin to use them to torture others. It will be a message of forgiveness and complete buy in to the American way, because it's the best way. It will also message to potential terrorists that even your former colleagues think you're disgusting and deserving of hell and they are ready and waiting to inflict suffering at 10 times the level they endured.
Once they've been broken and have paid their restitution with respectful and honorable service to the cause, they'd be offered residence in the country of their choice, and a yearly stipend to keep them comfortable for a good while under the condition that if they even think about acting foolish, they'll be contacted by a guy named Larry. They'll know up front that Larry is always angry because his family was killed by terrorists and that Larry operates autonomously under his own rules, answering to nothing but his own sadist pleasure.
So that's it in a 30,000 foot view. I'll definitely refine it if anyone gives me the green light to get the job done.
I would put together the largest special operations strike force in the history of the worlds. US. Canada. Russia. Europe. Korea. Japan. Mexico. You get my point. I would also assemble the largest intelligence gathering apparatus ever. I would open the wallet of Uncle Sam and pay people top dollar, like making people multi millionaires top dollar, along with relocation to the country of their choice, to rat out those responsible.
The strike teams will deploy to hunt and apprehend those responsible, killing only if necessary for self defense, and I would ship them to Guantanamo Bay. I'd turn Guantanamo Bay into the yugest and bestest torture facility known in the world. I'd have them ruthlessly tortured until they gave up information to continue to round up the perps. If they try to choose death over talking, I'll kindly remind them that along with dying, they will have their bodies stuffed with raw pork, they'll be coated in pig blood, and then their carcass will be dumped on the beach ass up for dogs and crabs to rape and for the wildlife to eat.
Once I'm fairly sure they've all been rounded up, I'll start having televised mass torture events. Think ISIS but without people dying. I'd televise the most heinous torture that has ever been thought of. Well probably not the worst, but bad shit. It will be framed as a public service announcement to educate radical Muslims on what not to do. That torture will also serve to break the soul of the tortured terrorists.
Once broken, I'd lure them into transformation with temptations and privilege. Once on board, I'd begin to use them to torture others. It will be a message of forgiveness and complete buy in to the American way, because it's the best way. It will also message to potential terrorists that even your former colleagues think you're disgusting and deserving of hell and they are ready and waiting to inflict suffering at 10 times the level they endured.
Once they've been broken and have paid their restitution with respectful and honorable service to the cause, they'd be offered residence in the country of their choice, and a yearly stipend to keep them comfortable for a good while under the condition that if they even think about acting foolish, they'll be contacted by a guy named Larry. They'll know up front that Larry is always angry because his family was killed by terrorists and that Larry operates autonomously under his own rules, answering to nothing but his own sadist pleasure.
So that's it in a 30,000 foot view. I'll definitely refine it if anyone gives me the green light to get the job done.
