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But!!!
After further review there were to parts to the case and ruling.

The first was the handing out of the papers telling people to stay away. That was full of lies and wrong.

But the second half dealt with the student senate and tellung the school to control and censor them.

Found this in a story about the case:

Some higher education observers worry that the ruling will have a chilling effect on free expression. A key concern is that colleges, fearful of litigation, will clamp down on student speech.

“This creates a very heavy incentive for institutions, particularly private institutions, to police the speech of their students and student governments, student organizations, student newspapers,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. “Because the decision suggests that an institution not only can punish unprotected speech—which is not a controversial position—but that the institution must punish it or must censor it, or [the college] becomes liable for that speech if it is defamatory.”

Jeffrey Sachs, a political science professor at Acadia University who often writes about free speech on campus, offered a similar opinion in a Twitter thread. He noted that the suit hinged on two actions: the libelous fliers distributed by staff and the Student Senate resolution.

“It’s the second action that really worries me. Basically, the court held that since Oberlin authorizes the student senate, subsidizes it, provides a supervisor, and allows it to post its documents on school property, it is legally responsible for the student senate’s speech,” Sachs tweeted.

While Sachs notes the dean erred in handing out the fliers, “the senate resolution issue feels much more complicated and nothing to celebrate.” The ruling, he suggests, implies that colleges must scrutinize the speech they provide a platform for and “have a legal duty to censor.”

Given the financial implications, Steinbaugh suspects colleges will be more likely to take a hard look at student speech and perhaps even diminish the support they provide for free expression. After all, enabling student speech may be more costly for colleges than simply stifling it.

“It creates a financial incentive for institutions to limit the channels through which students can exercise their expressive rights, or to diminish the resources that institutions commit to allowing students to express themselves, whether that’s through a student organization or student government or a student newspaper,” Steinbaugh said.
 
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But!!!
After further review there were to parts to the case and ruling.

The first was the handing out of the papers telling people to stay away. That was full of lies and wrong.

But the second half dealt with the student senate and tellung the school to control and censor them.

Found this in a story about the case:

Some higher education observers worry that the ruling will have a chilling effect on free expression. A key concern is that colleges, fearful of litigation, will clamp down on student speech.

“This creates a very heavy incentive for institutions, particularly private institutions, to police the speech of their students and student governments, student organizations, student newspapers,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. “Because the decision suggests that an institution not only can punish unprotected speech—which is not a controversial position—but that the institution must punish it or must censor it, or [the college] becomes liable for that speech if it is defamatory.”

Jeffrey Sachs, a political science professor at Acadia University who often writes about free speech on campus, offered a similar opinion in a Twitter thread. He noted that the suit hinged on two actions: the libelous fliers distributed by staff and the Student Senate resolution.

“It’s the second action that really worries me. Basically, the court held that since Oberlin authorizes the student senate, subsidizes it, provides a supervisor, and allows it to post its documents on school property, it is legally responsible for the student senate’s speech,” Sachs tweeted.

While Sachs notes the dean erred in handing out the fliers, “the senate resolution issue feels much more complicated and nothing to celebrate.” The ruling, he suggests, implies that colleges must scrutinize the speech they provide a platform for and “have a legal duty to censor.”

Given the financial implications, Steinbaugh suspects colleges will be more likely to take a hard look at student speech and perhaps even diminish the support they provide for free expression. After all, enabling student speech may be more costly for colleges than simply stifling it.

“It creates a financial incentive for institutions to limit the channels through which students can exercise their expressive rights, or to diminish the resources that institutions commit to allowing students to express themselves, whether that’s through a student organization or student government or a student newspaper,” Steinbaugh said.

Oberlin tried to destroy their business and got exactly what they deserved.
 
But!!!
After further review there were to parts to the case and ruling.

The first was the handing out of the papers telling people to stay away. That was full of lies and wrong.

But the second half dealt with the student senate and tellung the school to control and censor them.

Found this in a story about the case:

Some higher education observers worry that the ruling will have a chilling effect on free expression. A key concern is that colleges, fearful of litigation, will clamp down on student speech.

“This creates a very heavy incentive for institutions, particularly private institutions, to police the speech of their students and student governments, student organizations, student newspapers,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. “Because the decision suggests that an institution not only can punish unprotected speech—which is not a controversial position—but that the institution must punish it or must censor it, or [the college] becomes liable for that speech if it is defamatory.”

Jeffrey Sachs, a political science professor at Acadia University who often writes about free speech on campus, offered a similar opinion in a Twitter thread. He noted that the suit hinged on two actions: the libelous fliers distributed by staff and the Student Senate resolution.

“It’s the second action that really worries me. Basically, the court held that since Oberlin authorizes the student senate, subsidizes it, provides a supervisor, and allows it to post its documents on school property, it is legally responsible for the student senate’s speech,” Sachs tweeted.

While Sachs notes the dean erred in handing out the fliers, “the senate resolution issue feels much more complicated and nothing to celebrate.” The ruling, he suggests, implies that colleges must scrutinize the speech they provide a platform for and “have a legal duty to censor.”

Given the financial implications, Steinbaugh suspects colleges will be more likely to take a hard look at student speech and perhaps even diminish the support they provide for free expression. After all, enabling student speech may be more costly for colleges than simply stifling it.

“It creates a financial incentive for institutions to limit the channels through which students can exercise their expressive rights, or to diminish the resources that institutions commit to allowing students to express themselves, whether that’s through a student organization or student government or a student newspaper,” Steinbaugh said.
Maybe the college shouldn't have promoted the lies...
 
But!!!
After further review there were to parts to the case and ruling.

The first was the handing out of the papers telling people to stay away. That was full of lies and wrong.

But the second half dealt with the student senate and tellung the school to control and censor them.

Found this in a story about the case:

Some higher education observers worry that the ruling will have a chilling effect on free expression. A key concern is that colleges, fearful of litigation, will clamp down on student speech.

“This creates a very heavy incentive for institutions, particularly private institutions, to police the speech of their students and student governments, student organizations, student newspapers,” said Adam Steinbaugh, an attorney at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. “Because the decision suggests that an institution not only can punish unprotected speech—which is not a controversial position—but that the institution must punish it or must censor it, or [the college] becomes liable for that speech if it is defamatory.”

Jeffrey Sachs, a political science professor at Acadia University who often writes about free speech on campus, offered a similar opinion in a Twitter thread. He noted that the suit hinged on two actions: the libelous fliers distributed by staff and the Student Senate resolution.

“It’s the second action that really worries me. Basically, the court held that since Oberlin authorizes the student senate, subsidizes it, provides a supervisor, and allows it to post its documents on school property, it is legally responsible for the student senate’s speech,” Sachs tweeted.

While Sachs notes the dean erred in handing out the fliers, “the senate resolution issue feels much more complicated and nothing to celebrate.” The ruling, he suggests, implies that colleges must scrutinize the speech they provide a platform for and “have a legal duty to censor.”

Given the financial implications, Steinbaugh suspects colleges will be more likely to take a hard look at student speech and perhaps even diminish the support they provide for free expression. After all, enabling student speech may be more costly for colleges than simply stifling it.

“It creates a financial incentive for institutions to limit the channels through which students can exercise their expressive rights, or to diminish the resources that institutions commit to allowing students to express themselves, whether that’s through a student organization or student government or a student newspaper,” Steinbaugh said.
Bruh.

The plaintiffs case was that school administrators and faculty actively participated in smearing and defaming that family that had been a part of the community for a century and used school resources to enable students to perpetuate a witch hunt.

The court agreed. The appeal court agreed. You already admitted to being ignorant when you misrepresented the whole situation.

Find another hill to die on.
 
Bruh.

The plaintiffs case was that school administrators and faculty actively participated in smearing and defaming that family that had been a part of the community for a century and used school resources to enable students to perpetuate a witch hunt.

The court agreed. The appeal court agreed. You already admitted to being ignorant when you misrepresented the whole situation.

Find another hill to die on.
Get woke, go broke.
 
I agree the school was libel for what the administration and faculty did.
But there were 2 separate parts to the case.

The second part involved the student government and their free speech and future lack of.

This can now happen:

Oklahoma Baptist University student senate votes to condemn a local abortion clinic. Students then protest outside the clinic.

Losing money the clinic sues the school and wins millions. School then controls what the student government can and can not do or say in the future.
 
I agree the school was libel for what the administration and faculty did.
But there were 2 separate parts to the case.

The second part involved the student government and their free speech and future lack of.

This can now happen:

Oklahoma Baptist University student senate votes to condemn a local abortion clinic. Students then protest outside the clinic.

Losing money the clinic sues the school and wins millions. School then controls what the student government can and can not do or say in the future.
Is the protest based on a false narrative defaming the family that owns it? Does the dean of students actively perpetuate the defamation? Other faculty members? Are other school resources used to push the defamation?

It’s a strawman argument meant for NPCs. Stop being an NPC.
 
I agree the school was libel for what the administration and faculty did.
But there were 2 separate parts to the case.

The second part involved the student government and their free speech and future lack of.

This can now happen:

Oklahoma Baptist University student senate votes to condemn a local abortion clinic. Students then protest outside the clinic.

Losing money the clinic sues the school and wins millions. School then controls what the student government can and can not do or say in the future.
Free speech doesn't mean you can libel someone and get away with it. The entire premise of this case centers around the blatant dishonesty that the college condoned and then perpetuated.
 
I agree the school was libel for what the administration and faculty did.
But there were 2 separate parts to the case.

The second part involved the student government and their free speech and future lack of.

This can now happen:

Oklahoma Baptist University student senate votes to condemn a local abortion clinic. Students then protest outside the clinic.

Losing money the clinic sues the school and wins millions. School then controls what the student government can and can not do or say in the future.
Ridiculous.

Protesting is perfectly legal.
 
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I agree the school was libel for what the administration and faculty did.
But there were 2 separate parts to the case.

The second part involved the student government and their free speech and future lack of.

This can now happen:

Oklahoma Baptist University student senate votes to condemn a local abortion clinic. Students then protest outside the clinic.

Losing money the clinic sues the school and wins millions. School then controls what the student government can and can not do or say in the future.
The student senate is not just a bunch of random college-aged kids doing college kid things. The student senate is a part of the college and are full representatives of the students and of the college. I just do not see what is controversial about that. Were it just a bunch of random students, then the college would have nothing to do with it, but this was college sponsored at two levels, the dean (and administration) and the college student senate (part of the college). This is not a free speech/1st amendment issue...at all.
 
The student senate is not just a bunch of random college-aged kids doing college kid things. The student senate is a part of the college and are full representatives of the students and of the college. I just do not see what is controversial about that. Were it just a bunch of random students, then the college would have nothing to do with it, but this was college sponsored at two levels, the dean (and administration) and the college student senate (part of the college). This is not a free speech/1st amendment issue...at all.
Brother. 👍
 
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Keep in mind that over the course of this case the two primary plaintiffs died in the intervening period. One of them lamented how he'd spent his whole life trying to treat everyone fairly but would be remembered as a racist.

Remember this story anytime any leftist dares take the moral high ground.
 
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