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Gottlieb = financial stability + possible dynasty

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Is hiring Gottlieb a risky move? Yes, but his potential is off the charts. He is absolutely the best communicator in the history of Oklahoma State coaches. He also has one of the highest basketball IQ's of any coach, radio personality, or TV personality. He is also one of the most famous alumni (nationally) to ever play basketball at Oklahoma State (which will help recruiting, and so will his connections).

Additionally, a big part of the decision for Holder will be money. If Holder were to hire Gottlieb, the athletic department would not lose the momentum of season ticket holders from this season. Instead, there would be renewed interest from the Sutton loyalists who did not buy season tickets this past year because Underwood wasn't an oSu guy or a Sutton, so most of them were in a wait-and-see mode. Sutton loyalists do not trust outsiders, but this would not be an issue if Gottlieb were hired. If the excitement of the oSu students is any indication, then the older adults/alumni will buy season tickets to support one of their favorite sons too. Plus there is no buyout if they hire Gottlieb. In addition, Holder could hedge his bet by signing Gottlieb to a three-year deal with many incentives and a base salary around 500K (which is around the pay of a successful up-and-coming mid-major coach). The money saved could then be used to help Gottlieb attract the best assistant coaches and some data analysts (to help with recruiting, in game strategy, team scouting, etc).

On a side note, our athletic department really needs to become a leader in college athletics by injecting our athletic department with Moneyball metrics across all sports. This data could help all sports in the athletic department and they would only need 2-3 people and pay them $50,000 - $100,000. This amount is cheaper than 1 assistant football coach, but their impact on the entire athletic department would be profound. If you've never seen the movie Moneyball, click here to watch the trailer.
 
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I used to work for Koch Industries and one of the things that they did was hire people with a high aptitude and allowed them to learn the position. Which for people with a high aptitude, it doesn't take long to be successful in their jobs. In addition, Doug is one of the most educated people on the game of basketball (extremely high basketball IQ), comes from a great coaching tree, bleeds orange, and could unite our fan base like no other coach besides Eddie Sutton. And with his personality and TV fame, he could potentially be the best recruiter in oSu history.

If people took the time to listen to Doug they would know he has one of the highest basketball IQ's of any radio personality, TV personality, or coach. Anyone listening to his interviews while he was a player at oSu could tell he was special. His personality, fame, and basketball IQ give him the potential to be one of the best coaches in the country.

Btw, there's a HUGE difference between being a radio personality and being a radio personality with an extremely high basketball IQ. For example, if you've ever had to hire someone for a business position and understand the difference between having the right qualifications (say a business degree) versus somebody without the qualifications but with an extremely high aptitude (say a math degree), who would you hire? One of the most successful private companies (Koch which is the 2nd largest in the US) hires its employees based on aptitude. They've been very successful with this strategy and I'd say the company is doing pretty good.

Doug is not only the best option, but he has the highest upside and I'm excited about his potential. On a side note, I really hope Doug will retain assistant coach Henderson.
 
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1. What is the difference between D. Gottlieb & Mayor Hoiberg?

2. They both have (had) O coaching experience:)

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Sure wish we would have made this move 5 years ago. Instead we rolled the dice with Boynton who had 0 head coaching experience and that was supposedly less risky.
 
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How could the athletic department afford another coach if they have to buyout Boynton's contract? The answer is an incentive laden contract for any future coach. This protects oSu so they never have to overpay or underpay any future coach. We'll use Boynton as an example below. There would be a base pay of $500,000 with $50k per regular season win (non conference) and $100k per regular season win (conference). Plus, you add bonuses for the teams ranking at the end of the season (top 25 = $250k, top 20 = $500k, top 15 = $750k, top 10 = $1.0M, top 5 = $1.25M), a $250k bonus for a conference championship appearance or a $750k bonus for a conference championship win, and a bonus for the NCAA postseason ($500k for a tournament appearance or $750k for Sweet 16 appearance or $1.0M for Final Four appearance or a $2.25M bonus for winning a national championship). IF the basketball coach wins all of his regular season and post season games, he would be paid $7,200,000. Using Boynton as an example, he would have been paid the following each of his seasons at oSu.

BOYNTON 2017-18
Regular Season (non conference) 10 wins + 3 losses = $500k
Regular Season (Big 12 conference) 8 wins + 10 losses = $800k
Ranking (not ranked) = $0
Conference Championship (none) = $0
NCAA Tournament = $0
Proposed Salary = $1,800,000 (actual = $1.0M)

BOYNTON 2018-19

Regular Season (non conference) 7 wins + 6 losses = $350k
Regular Season (Big 12 conference) 5 wins + 13 losses = $500k
Ranking (not ranked) = $0
Conference Championship (none) = $0
NCAA Tournament = $0
Proposed Salary = $1,350,000 (actual = $1.6M)

BOYNTON 2019-20

Regular Season (non conference) 10 wins + 3 losses = $500k
Regular Season (Big 12 conference) 7 wins + 11 losses = $700k
Ranking (not ranked) = $0
Conference Championship (none) = $0
NCAA Tournament = $0
Proposed Salary = $1,700,000 (actual = $1.725M)

BOYNTON 2020-21

Regular Season (non conference) 7 wins + 0 losses = $350k
Regular Season (Big 12 conference) 11 wins + 7 losses = $1.1M
Ranking (ranked #19) = $500k
Conference Championship (loss) = $250k
NCAA Tournament = $500k
Proposed Salary = $3,200,000 (actual = $1.85M)
 
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In a recent interview with Doug Gottlieb, he talked about picking coaches that are good in areas that he is not. If you haven't heard the interview yet, please click link below (starting at 2:20 to 18:00).



In a perfect world, a head coach would hire 5 assistant coaches with different talents and abilities. Additionally, a coach should know his own strengths and weaknesses, so they can hire excellent coaches in the areas of their biggest weakness.

Assistant Coach #1
  • A good X's and O's coach who understands in-game play calling on OFFENSE, ways to change game momentum, strategical moves (substitutions and adjustments), and how to draw up successful plays
Assistant Coach #2
  • A good X's and O's coach who understands in-game play calling on DEFENSE, ways to change game momentum, strategical moves (substitutions and adjustments), and how to draw up successful plays
Assistant Coach #3
  • A good recruiter who is possibly a former player who can really sell the program, city of Stillwater and state of Oklahoma, and be able to share their life changing experience.
Assistant Coach #4
  • A good teacher of fundamentals and someone will will set up meaningful practices to make the team better
Assistant Coach #5
  • An experienced successful former head coach from a lower division level.
 
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