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GOP Debate

For some reason I just can't shake the thought that the best debate forum for the GOP candidates would be a ladder cage match.

For HilLIARry and the Bern, a kiddie pool filled with lime jello and coolwhip.
 
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I have to admit. Cruz has really really come on strong lately. I did not care for him early on but he is growing on me.

I agree. I still find his demeanor to be very off putting and I don't agree with him on every issue but I do believe he is the only candidate with legitimate shot that is for limited government in some fashion.

Right now it looks like to me it is a 4 person race between Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and I still think Christie could make some noise if he does well in New Hampshire. Of those 4, I think the only one I could cast a vote for is Cruz. I will still vote for Paul in the primary even though he appears done and it may be official by the time we vote in Oklahoma.
 
Sort of. It's calculated by Cruz, I think. He knows he's not winning anything up there and people in the south agree with his comment. Hell I think New Yorkers agree with what he said.

It's probably safe to say that upstate New Yorkers, which is a more rural area, absolutely agree with him in regards to New York City and Manhattan values. Upstate New York has a small secession movement growing and would like to be separated from those cities.
 
I agree. I still find his demeanor to be very off putting and I don't agree with him on every issue but I do believe he is the only candidate with legitimate shot that is for limited government in some fashion.

Right now it looks like to me it is a 4 person race between Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and I still think Christie could make some noise if he does well in New Hampshire. Of those 4, I think the only one I could cast a vote for is Cruz. I will still vote for Paul in the primary even though he appears done and it may be official by the time we vote in Oklahoma.

Rubio and Christie will not both make it. They are in an establishment winner take all face-off at this point. It's cute that Jeb still thinks he's in this thing. I wish Rand didn't come off as such a damned squirrel.
 
Christie is presiding over a state that is doing terrible, how he is still in the race is baffling to me. Eventually his lack of success will be exposed and he'll need to crawl back to the flop eared north African for another hug as he won't be close to being in the top 3. Here are a few excerpts of how his state is doing.

"The state's economic recovery continues to lag the nation as the state has only recovered 62% of jobs lost during the recession, while the U.S. has recovered 132%," a recent Moody's report stated.

Gov. Christie likes to champion his business credentials, but New Jersey is frequently ranked as one of the worst states in the country for doing business, according to surveys of CEOs and the Tax Foundation. Overall economic growth has been lackluster -- the state ranked 46th for growth in 2014.

Since the recession, poverty is up, the state's revenues are down, and the New Jersey's unemployment rate remains well above the national average.

New Jersey's job growth rate in the last year ranks dead last in the continental United States. The U.S. has more than regained the nearly 9 million jobs that it lost during the recession that lasted from 2007 to 2009. New Jersey has recovered fewer than half of the lost 257,900 jobs, and its job growth is losing what little steam it had.

Both retirees and workers are marching out of New Jersey, taking their money with them. During a five-year stretch, from 2006 to 2011, the state lost more than 90,000 taxpayers — and $8 billion in income — to other states and countries that was not made up from new workers within the state, according to an analysis of IRS tax and migration records.

The middle class has fallen behind. Seven of the 10 occupations that lost the most jobs from 2000 to 2013 had median wages between $30,000 and $60,000 a year. Meantime, six of the 10 occupations that added the most jobs had median wages of less than $30,000 a year. And New Jersey workers in all occupations saw their inflation-adjusted salaries fall 15.8 percent from 2007 — the year before the recession — to 2013, federal data shows.
 
Christie is presiding over a state that is doing terrible, how he is still in the race is baffling to me. Eventually his lack of success will be exposed and he'll need to crawl back to the flop eared north African for another hug as he won't be close to being in the top 3. Here are a few excerpts of how his state is doing.

"The state's economic recovery continues to lag the nation as the state has only recovered 62% of jobs lost during the recession, while the U.S. has recovered 132%," a recent Moody's report stated.

Gov. Christie likes to champion his business credentials, but New Jersey is frequently ranked as one of the worst states in the country for doing business, according to surveys of CEOs and the Tax Foundation. Overall economic growth has been lackluster -- the state ranked 46th for growth in 2014.

Since the recession, poverty is up, the state's revenues are down, and the New Jersey's unemployment rate remains well above the national average.

New Jersey's job growth rate in the last year ranks dead last in the continental United States. The U.S. has more than regained the nearly 9 million jobs that it lost during the recession that lasted from 2007 to 2009. New Jersey has recovered fewer than half of the lost 257,900 jobs, and its job growth is losing what little steam it had.

Both retirees and workers are marching out of New Jersey, taking their money with them. During a five-year stretch, from 2006 to 2011, the state lost more than 90,000 taxpayers — and $8 billion in income — to other states and countries that was not made up from new workers within the state, according to an analysis of IRS tax and migration records.

The middle class has fallen behind. Seven of the 10 occupations that lost the most jobs from 2000 to 2013 had median wages between $30,000 and $60,000 a year. Meantime, six of the 10 occupations that added the most jobs had median wages of less than $30,000 a year. And New Jersey workers in all occupations saw their inflation-adjusted salaries fall 15.8 percent from 2007 — the year before the recession — to 2013, federal data shows.

He also has a very spotty record on gun control. He'll do what the party tells him to do though.
 
What Jeb's now leading? I swear I got some random email telling me he was now leading in NH or something like that,...I really just wish he would go away.
 
Jeb is just taking hundreds and setting them on fire at this point. What a waste of money.

If he get's through the primaries I'll be the most shocked person in America. The pathetic old guard just can't let go.

I think this is true for everyone except Trump, Cruz and Rubio. I just don't see Christy over taking Rubio.
 
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