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George R.R. Martin dies

Been Jammin

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Or was it George Michael?

Sorry for the thread title, but wanted to get your attention. I just figured it was time to point out (once again) how ridiculous it is that he still hasn't released Winds of Winter, or even announced when we would be able to get our hands on it. Either, he no longer cares about finishing ASOIAF, or he has a serious case of writers block and can't figure out where to take the story. It has now been 5.5 years since the release of his 5th book, which means that it will be at least 6 between the 5th and 6th (likely more).

I was thinking about authors while reading the Rogue One thread and the info about Princess Leia. I was thinking about how Lucas originally intended Leia to be an actual princess, but it didn't work for his later books, so he had to change course and make "Princess" a diplomatic title. Made me appreciate JK Rowling much more because her first Harry Potter book fits seamlessly into the story line and meshes perfectly with all of the later books in the series. At first, I was thinking that Martin could be included with Rowling, when it comes to planning ahead and having all their ducks in a row while writing the first book. Then I remembered that Martin can't even finish the series that made him famous and ridiculously wealthy.
 
Obviously not a fan of Robert Jordan.

I picked up Game of Thrones in 2000 or 2001. I'm tired of waiting on winter to come.
 
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Well, just found this (from last month). It states that book 6 and 7 may be released at the same time (in 2017). That would redeem him, IMO. I'm extremely dubious....

I'd be surprised if we see Winds of Winter in 2017. Martin gets off on yanking his readers chains. Don't fall for it.
 
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I'd be surprised if we see Winds of Winter in 2017. Martin gets off on yanking his readers chains. Don't fall for it.

I liked your post because I agree with you. Wanted to dislike your post because it pisses me off.
 
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Dance With Deagons was a five year wait (I may be low balling that one).

No reason he should be finished before 2022, am I right?
 
Dance With Deagons was a five year wait (I may be low balling that one).

No reason he should be finished before 2022, am I right?

Very realistic.

However, based on what we know, he clearly should have finished WOW by now and it should already be released.

We know that he had to cut DWD short by approximately 5 chapters due to limits on size of the printed version. That means that he already had those chapters written. He has pre-released quite a few other finished chapters. He claimed that he was going to try to finish the book prior to the release of the most recent season of GOT. It didn't happen, but that would suggest that he worked hard and made significant progress on the book before realizing he wouldn't make the deadline.

Based on those items, it seems like he should have completed a minimum of 75% of the novel about 8 months ago. I would think that the remaining 25% should have been done and released by now.

That leaves us with 3 explanations (that I can think of).

1. He has had serious writers block and is really having a tough time figuring out how to finish the story. If so, who knows if it will ever get done.

2. He has lost interest and just can't get motivated to finish the story and doesn't give a shit about disappointing his fans.

3. He really does want to get ASOIAF finished, and is planning to release the final two novels at the same time (or #7 shortly after #6). He is holding back on releasing 6 until he is ready to announce a hard release date for 7.

Obviously, #3 would be out of character for him, but we can hope, can't we? I can certainly see him being tired of constantly being asked about ASOIAF and wanting it to be over. So....maybe.
 
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