For those citing Clapper......

[CowboyJD]

In support of there being no evidence of collusion and/or stopping the FBI investigation.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/interviews-underway-fbi-director-47399481

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dni-clapper-comey-uneasy-dinner-president/story?id=47390947

"I think, in many ways, our institutions are under assault, both externally — and that's the big news here, is the Russian interference in our election system," said James Clapper, the former director of national intelligence. "I think as well our institutions are under assault internally."

When he was asked, "Internally, from the president?" Clapper said, "Exactly."
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Speaking on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, Vice President Mike Pence said, “The facts that are in public today are very clear. The former Director of National Intelligence has said that there is no evidence of collusion.”

Stephanopoulos asked Clapper, “You did say back in your original testimony [to Congress] that you hadn’t seen evidence of collusion. Tell us exactly what you think right now.”

Clapper said Sunday, “At the time we did our intelligence community assessment [of Russian interference in the election], which we published publicly on the 6th of January, there was no evidence of any collusion included in that report.”

But he said the FBI, which is conducting the Russia probe as a counterterrorism investigation, would not necessarily have told the Director of National Intelligence if it found evidence of such collusion.

“I had no evidence available to me that there was collusion, but that's not necessarily exculpatory since I did not know the state of the investigation or the content -- what had been turned up with it,” Clapper said.
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Clapper raises another very interesting point in those articles (the second).

How is Trump meeting with Comey to discuss the Russia investigation (Trump's letter dismissing him said three different times) over dinner so incredibly different than Slick Willie meeting with Lynch on the tarmac during the ongoing Hillary e-mail investigation?

I guess it's time for Clapper to go back on the deep state operatives enemy list.

 

[purkey]

he really is the king of flip flop. need to get everyone appointed by obama out of the us government...the have tainted it beyond repair.

 

[imprimis]

How is Trump meeting with Clapper to discuss the Russia investigation

Substitute Comey for Clapper...

 

[CowboyJD]

Substitute Comey for Clapper...

Good call. My bad. Then the question will make sense.

 

[CowboyJD]

he really is the king of flip flop. need to get everyone appointed by obama out of the us government...the have tainted it beyond repair.

IMO, this isn't a flip flop. It's calling out and correcting people that are misinterpreting and mischaracterizing what he actually said.

 

[MegaPoke]

How is Trump meeting with Comey to discuss the Russia investigation (Trump's letter dismissing him said three different times) over dinner so incredibly different than Slick Willie meeting with Lynch on the tarmac during the ongoing Hillary e-mail investigation?

What position did Bill Clinton hold at the time to justify a spy novel scene meeting with the AG? Seems contextually quite different

 

[purkey]

well, what about all that one in a million talk??? What he says and what he means takes a supreme court ruling I guess...

"James Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence, told a Senate Judiciary subcommittee on Monday that he still has not seen any evidence of any kind of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian foreign nationals.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-N.C., asked if Clapper's prior statement was correct, when he said on NBC that there was "no evidence' of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. When asked if that is still accurate, Clapper said Monday, "it is."


this is what is considered a flipper....in the 12th level. Now, of course he found out more stuff and now is backtracking. It's a big fricking joke about a bunch of nonsense. Just still wasting everyone's time. The effort it will take to put this fire out is stagnating progress on other issues.

 

[Rdcldad]

when i ran a boogerfarm i used to tell
the ex i was going to get cat food

the first time she replied we don't have a cat

the second time i replied you are right

the third time i said maybe you should get one

there's lots of fancy political terms and classes taught on this type maneuver

hildecankle woulda said let them eat cake
or don't cry for my argentina
or if the election was october 27 i would be president


collusion or not
in the context of what is the swamp
it's an amazing waste of time

 

[MegaPoke]

well, what about all that one in a million talk??? What he says and what he means takes a supreme court ruling I guess...

"James Clapper, the former Director of National Intelligence, told a Senate Judiciary subcommittee on Monday that he still has not seen any evidence of any kind of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian foreign nationals.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-N.C., asked if Clapper's prior statement was correct, when he said on NBC that there was "no evidence' of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. When asked if that is still accurate, Clapper said Monday, "it is."


this is what is considered a flipper....in the 12th level. Now, of course he found out more stuff and now is backtracking. It's a big fricking joke about a bunch of nonsense. Just still wasting everyone's time. The effort it will take to put this fire out is stagnating progress on other issues.

It's specifically (in my opinion) to muddy the waters till midterms and hope that Trump has low enough approval that it allows the dems to take back the senate/house and hamstring Trump's final 2 years, making him easier to defeat next time.

 

[Rdcldad]

It's specifically (in my opinion) to muddy the waters till midterms and hope that Trump has low enough approval that it allows the dems to take back the senate/house and hamstring Trump's final 2 years, making him easier to defeat next time.

i think that's giving the dems too much credit

 

[CowboyJD]

What position did Bill Clinton hold at the time to justify a spy novel scene meeting with the AG? Seems contextually quite different

Your characterization of it as a "spy novel scene" is pretty funny though not particularly accurate. We knew more about it happening as soon as it did than we do about these three times Comey supposedly told Trump he wasn't being investigated.

They don't seem all that contextually different to me at all. Clinton was closely connected to someone under investigation by the FBI. He was an interested party. Allegedly to inquire about and perhaps influence the investigation (though the parties deny that's what happened). Trump is closely connected to people under investigation and he's admitted the investigation was inquired about those meetings and I hope we can all agree that Trump has tweeted repeatedly asserting that the investigation shouldn't be going on. He himself has said he fired Comey in connection with the Russia investigation.

It looks like you are asserting that the President is acting properly in inquiring about about and attempting to influence an ongoing investigation into people he is closely connected to solely as a result of his position as President. I hope that's not what you are saying, but that's what it looks like to me.

 

[Alpha Poke]

So, no evidence just more posturing by Washington.

 

[CowboyJD]

So, no evidence just more posturing by Washington.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Did you confuse yourself again?

I kinda feel like I need to add, I don't want any investigation stopped here again.

Notice the punctuation, not a single exclamation point.

Edit for clarification, the above was typed with my left eyebrow 1mm higher than the right.

 

[CowboyJD]

Still still crying about the beating you took yesterday, I see.

Just because you keep saying no evidence, doesn't mean it's true.

When your NSA Adviser, campaign manager, and foreign policy advisor took money from Russian and your NSA Advisor got caught lying about what he talked to the Russians about, that's more than enough evidence to open and pursue an investigation by the FBI.

 

[Been Jammin]

I don't get all the complaining about the Russia investigation. It seems to be accepted by both sides that they (at least) attempted to influence the election. Trump, himself, has stated that he wants an investigation. He has now said it multiple times. It is a news story. The media is going to cover it. Are they supposed to just drop the story until the investigation is completed? Is that what some of you are hoping for?

If so, I don't get why it bothers you so much. When Pizzagate was going on, I had no problem ignoring the coverage/posts/etc. Is it that hard to overlook information pertaining to a subject you would rather not hear about?

 

[CowboyPhil]

As Clapper said, "our institutions are under assault internally" and I hope they are. Too much politics where politics don't belong. Trump has screwed up by bringing too many politicians into the fold. I wish the Russians had also hacked the Republicans and exposed the whole system for what it is. A huge pile of steaming crap!

I could do a better job than most of these politicians. They are supposed to be there to do what is best for the country, not what is best for their party, not necessarily what is best for their constituents even, and certainly not what is best for their pocketbook. Just a bunch of crooks.

The last time I remember not being pissed off with the system was when Reagan was in office. I was in high school and didn't give a shit about any of this mess.

 

[MegaPoke]

I don't get all the complaining about the Russia investigation. It seems to be accepted by both sides that they (at least) attempted to influence the election. Trump, himself, has stated that he wants an investigation. He has now said it multiple times. It is a news story. The media is going to cover it. Are they supposed to just drop the story until the investigation is completed? Is that what some of you are hoping for?

If so, I don't get why it bothers you so much. When Pizzagate was going on, I had no problem ignoring the coverage/posts/etc. Is it that hard to overlook information pertaining to a subject you would rather not hear about?

Don't think you quite get what is being complained about.

 

[Been Jammin]

Don't think you quite get what is being complained about.

Obviously not. Because, as I said. "I don't get it".

 

[PDT816]

Clapper could claim the sky is blue and I'd still be skeptical. He's one scary dude

 

[CowboyJD]

Clapper could claim the sky is blue and I'd still be skeptical. He's one scary dude

At least you're consistent.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Shit fire, I did need to include it.

How can I say It any more plainly? There are zero big words and you just keep on arguing points with which I had zero problems in a weird attempt to claim "victory."

Sweet, you won an argument with yourself.

 

[Alpha Poke]

My last twenty posts are defending shit you made up.

 

[07pilt]

My last twenty posts are defending shit you made up.

Sweet, you won an argument with yourself.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Says the soup can.

 

[CowboyJD]

Shit fire, I did need to include it.

How can I say It any more plainly? There are zero big words and you just keep on arguing points with which I had zero problems in a weird attempt to claim "victory."

Sweet, you won an argument with yourself.

My last twenty posts are defending shit you made up.

Just when I thought you couldn't herp derp more than you already have, you prove me wrong.

You don't want an investigation stopped even though you continue to yell NO EVIDENCE that justify starting or continuing it?

Does that about cover your position?

Frankly, you're making zero sense right about now....in a weird attempt to claim victory. You're the one that started all the "winning" talk, btw.

 

[Alpha Poke]

JD - Didn't you say you wanted the investigation stopped? "(A bunch of stuff assuming I wanted it stopped)."

Me - no

That's on a loop.

 

[Alpha Poke]

What did you win. The sole point you wanted to argue nobody disagrees with. You keep harping on something nobody is arguing.

You beat yourself. There's a word for that.

 

[CowboyJD]

JD - Didn't you say you wanted the investigation stopped? "(A bunch of stuff assuming I wanted it stopped)."

Me - no

That's on a loop.

So you don't want the Russian investigation stopped.

There's just no evidence that justifies it having been started or continuing and you don't think people should be talking about it.

And you drug this crap to a completely different thread.

Does that about cover it?

 

[CowboyJD]

What did you win. The sole point you wanted to argue nobody disagrees with. You keep harping on something nobody is arguing.

You beat yourself. There's a word for that.

I didn't say I won anything.

You're the one that started that shit and are dragging it into a completely different thread.

NOBODY is arguing that the investigation shouldn't have been started, should be stopped, and has no evidence supporting it's start or continuation?

Bullshit.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Dude you've claimed "beatings" in two threads about the same shit.

You really change to a bitch when challenged.

 

[07pilt]

Dude you've claimed "beatings" in two threads about the same shit.

You really change to a bitch when challenged.

Just to clarify, what exactly is your position on Russia and the Trump administration?

 

[CowboyJD]

Dude you've claimed "beatings" in two threads about the same shit.

You really change to a bitch when challenged.

I claimed beatings in response to your claims of "winning".

Fine, I'm a bitch.

I'm very happy for you.

The words are all still there for anyone to draw their own conclusions though.

 

[CowboyJD]

Just to clarify, what exactly is your position on Russia and the Trump administration?

I've asked twice in this thread.

Do you think you're better than me or something?

 

[Alpha Poke]

Just to clarify, what exactly is your position on Russia and the Trump administration?

I could never imagine not having to explain it to you over and over.

 

[Alpha Poke]

Cute.

See?

 

[07pilt]

I could never imagine not having to explain it to you over and over.

I wonder why you are reluctant to answer a simple question.

 

[CowboyJD]

I could never imagine not having to explain it to you over and over.

You just really changed to a bitch when you were challenged.

Welcome to the bitch club.

 

[Been Jammin]

 

[Alpha Poke]

I thought it was a polite way of questioning his intelligence and ability to retain.

I'm trying to be civil dammit.