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FL Gov. Ron DeSantis Signs Civics Bill Requiring Students to Learn Evils of ‘Communism, Totalitarian Ideologies’

In a socialist society if a band of dissenters eschewed socialism would they be allowed to form their own “commune” and live the capitalist life they prefer without interference?
I guess it depends
 
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Is it true that this bill includes a mandatory survey of professors and students on their political opinions to ensure funding for public universities?
 
Colleges are a breeding ground for all things liberal and lead/led to a bastardization of what a great country this is.

I'll take a nationalist over a dam left leaning socialist or communist any freakin time.


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The U.S. a breeding ground for liberalism for two major reasons: 1) there are so many people in America who want something for nothing and that is the essence of communism/socialism; and 2) while most conservatives are “rule followers,” most liberals HATE following rules and are borderline anarchists.
 
Only if you use made up body counts from western propagandists and only if you don't count all the the people Hitler would have killed if Communism hadn't defeated him.

How many do you think Stalin killed? Makes Hitler look like an amateur.

"How many Hitler would have killed?"

So we are now going to sentence murderers not only for the murders we can prove but also for the murders they would have committed had they not been caught?
Should the Police just go ahead and send you tickets for speeding and traffic violations since we all know you will have more in the future?
Smdh. This is @davidallen level bs.
 
How many do you think Stalin killed? Makes Hitler look like an amateur.

"How many Hitler would have killed?"

So we are now going to sentence murderers not only for the murders we can prove but also for the murders they would have committed had they not been caught?
Should the Police just go ahead and send you tickets for speeding and traffic violations since we all know you will have more in the future?
Smdh. This is @davidallen level bs.
Stalin's body count is far lower than Hitler.
Obviously comparing ideologies is not the same as the criminal justice system.
 
Yes, communists are never known for their propaganda. It's those evil westerners that made communism look bad. We couldn't see the stark differences between East and West Germany with our own eyes for sure.
Where is launch with the moving goal posts gif
 
Cool. Marijuana is legal in like 30 states now.
And that has what to do with the conversation? I'm conservative/nationalist and could care less that MJ has been legalized. This feeds back down to the utter failure of the war on drugs, especially considering that MJ can be grown just about anywhere with little to no effort.

Nazism is so self evidently bad no special curriculum needs to be mandated
Any cirriculum that doesnt identify and teach that both Nazisum and Communisum/socialisum are equally bad isn't worth a dam. Don't forget the Nazi-Soviet Pact 1939, that proscribed the dividing up of Eastern Europe between Germany and Russia, starting with both countries attacking Poland in September of 1939.

The communist also allowed German troops to train in Russia to escape the Treaty of Versailles military prohibitions.

Don't forget that The Treaty of Versailles guaranteed a second conflict. Some signatories didn't even read the document, others warned the penalties on Germany were so onerous there would be another war and others signed for revenge (France in particular to recover ground lost in the Franco-Prussian war 1870 -1871). The victors of WWI, help incubate and hatch Nazisum to its grotesque outcome. Conversely, the Russian socialist/communist were well on their way to eclipsing the body count Hitler would attain.

Love my country which is why I want the best for it (socialism)
Where has socialism ever been successful? And don't give me this BS that "if practiced correctly would work" that belies your adherence to theory and not reality. In theory it won't ever work because there will always be slackers, middle of the road folks and overachievers. Impossible to have equitable outcomes from such groups which then means some work harder than others for the same reward. Ridiculous!

There will ALWAYS be leaders who think the rules are for everyone else and will live way higher on the hog then the peasants. Stalin, Molotov etc., practiced this routinely.

Stalin's body count is far lower than Hitler.
Obviously comparing ideologies is not the same as the criminal justice system.
You better stick to economics....Stalin killed more people than Hitler and it's not even close. That's not propaganda either, that is know from years of reading about the Russian Revolution, his consolidation of power, Ukrainian collectivization, gulags, military purges, post WWII killings/pogroms (that's right soviets actually killed holocaust survivors who returned to reclaim homes/property as well as many soviet POWs were outright shot or sent to gulags), Katyn Forest massacre by NKVD (killed over 24,000 Polish intelligentsia and military officers) and the list goes on and freakin on.

The communist stopped on the Vistula in August of 1944, and would not offer help to The Polish Home Army during the Warsaw Uprising that ultimately caused the deaths' of approximately 200,000 civilians and soldiers. Why did this happened you ask Comrade? Because the Home Army was populated with mostly democratic thinking individuals who assumed (based on previous Western promises) that once freed from Nazi control would go back to the Poland of pre-communist takeover.

Not to mitigate what the germans did (I say Germans because not all members of the military were Nazi Party members, in fact the Wehrmacht was considered "non-political" while the SS was considered a political arm of the regimes.

Only if you use made up body counts from western propagandists and only if you don't count all the the people Hitler would have killed if Communism hadn't defeated him.

First off Comrade, Western Propaganda couldn't hold the jock strap of communist propaganda, as I stated above Stalin and his communist killed more people than Hitler could have dreamed of...not propaganda but fact.

Were it not for Western lend lease equipment (food, trucks, planes, jeeps, clothing, boots etc) and money the stinking communist would have been pummeled and pushed back beyond the Urals. Were it not for American 4x4 trucks the communist winter offensive in 1941/1942 would have utterly failed as would have subsequent pushes and maneuvers at Kursk, Stalingrad, Operation Bagration and the push to Germany. At one point the US had an airbase in Poltava, Ukraine.

Just because you sent human waves of soldiers against fortified positions, with many of the successive waves unarmed and expecting to pick up weapons from dead and wounded, and accumulate a almost unimaginable death toll doesn't make one able to claim they "scarified more" than the other allies therefor dong more for the war effort. Many of the early efforts by the communist military were doomed to fail because of lousy leadership (thanks to Stalin's purges), sub-par/obsolete equipment and complete lack of training (some "soldiers" were inducted, armed and sent to the front without the most basic training in infantry tactics).
 
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And that has what to do with the conversation? I'm conservative/nationalist and could care less that MJ has been legalized. This feeds back down to the utter failure of the war on drugs, especially considering that MJ can be grown just about anywhere with little to no effort.
Just an example how effective D.A.R.E. to keep kids of Communism will be.
Any cirriculum that doesnt identify and teach that both Nazisum and Communisum/socialisum are equally bad isn't worth a dam.
Why bother making an normative judgement and equating the. Just show the facts and let the kids make the normative judgements.
Don't forget the Nazi-Soviet Pact 1939, that proscribed the dividing up of Eastern Europe between Germany and Russia, starting with both countries attacking Poland in September of 1939.

The communist also allowed German troops to train in Russia to escape the Treaty of Versailles military prohibitions.
And the west let the Nazis take over Czechoslovakia and Austria and remilitarize the Ruhr and supplied financing and the planes Hitler bombed Spanish Republicans with. What's your point?
Don't forget that The Treaty of Versailles guaranteed a second conflict. Some signatories didn't even read the document, others warned the penalties on Germany were so onerous there would be another war and others signed for revenge (France in particular to recover ground lost in the Franco-Prussian war 1870 -1871). The victors of WWI, help incubate and hatch Nazisum to its grotesque outcome.
Yeah history is a series of causes and effects.
Conversely, the Russian socialist/communist were well on their way to eclipsing the body count Hitler would attain.
Show your work.
Where has socialism ever been successful? And don't give me this BS that "if practiced correctly would work" that belies your adherence to theory and not reality.
Every place that goes from advanced industrial society with a tradition of liberal democracy to socialism has been successful (Norway).
In theory it won't ever work because there will always be slackers, middle of the road folks and overachievers. Impossible to have equitable outcomes from such groups which then means some work harder than others for the same reward. Ridiculous!
Maybe learn a little bit more about what socialism is.
There will ALWAYS be leaders who think the rules are for everyone else and will live way higher on the hog then the peasants. Stalin, Molotov etc., practiced this routinely.
A ruling class that lives high on the hog? Only in communism.
You better stick to economics....Stalin killed more people than Hitler and it's not even close.
Show your work.
That's not propaganda either, that is know from years of reading about the Russian Revolution, his consolidation of power, Ukrainian collectivization, gulags, military purges, post WWII killings/pogroms (that's right soviets actually killed holocaust survivors who returned to reclaim homes/property as well as many soviet POWs were outright shot or sent to gulags), Katyn Forest massacre by NKVD (killed over 24,000 Polish intelligentsia and military officers) and the list goes on and freakin on.
Add it up.
The communist stopped on the Vistula in August of 1944, and would not offer help to The Polish Home Army during the Warsaw Uprising that ultimately caused the deaths' of approximately 200,000 civilians and soldiers. Why did this happened you ask Comrade? Because the Home Army was populated with mostly democratic thinking individuals who assumed (based on previous Western promises) that once freed from Nazi control would go back to the Poland of pre-communist takeover.
Rank propaganda. There is no evidence that the Red Army failed to cross the Vistula for political rather than operational reasons. Who killed those civilians by the way?
First off Comrade, Western Propaganda couldn't hold the jock strap of communist propaganda, as I stated above Stalin and his communist killed more people than Hitler could have dreamed of...not propaganda but fact.
Show your work. You just stated western propaganda about the Warsaw uprising as fact, and I am supposed to take your word for the body count?
Were it not for Western lend lease equipment (food, trucks, planes, jeeps, clothing, boots etc) and money the stinking communist would have been pummeled and pushed back beyond the Urals. Were it not for American 4x4 trucks the communist winter offensive in 1941/1942 would have utterly failed as would have subsequent pushes and maneuvers at Kursk, Stalingrad, Operation Bagration and the push to Germany. At one point the US had an airbase in Poltava, Ukraine.
And if it weren't for the Soviets killing or capturing 9.6 million Axis soldiers D-day might have ended up differently.
Just because you sent human waves of soldiers against fortified positions, with many of the successive waves unarmed and expecting to pick up weapons from dead and wounded, and accumulate a almost unimaginable death toll doesn't make one able to claim they "scarified more" than the other allies therefor dong more for the war effort.
We can measure it bay Nazis killed if you prefer.
Many of the early efforts by the communist military were doomed to fail because of lousy leadership (thanks to Stalin's purges), sub-par/obsolete equipment and complete lack of training (some "soldiers" were inducted, armed and sent to the front without the most basic training in infantry tactics).
And yet they prevailed.
 
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Socialism: ideas so good that a tiny island nation has a higher life expectancy than the US despite 60 years of embargo.
Yes, it's so good people try to swim 90 miles to get out of there despite a higher life expectancy and 60 years of embargo. I wonder why folks from the US aren't clamoring to swim 90 miles to Cuba to live. Sounds like paradise.
 
Yes, it's so good people try to swim 90 miles to get out of there despite a higher life expectancy and 60 years of embargo. I wonder why folks from the US aren't clamoring to swim 90 miles to Cuba to live. Sounds like paradise.
Rough to live under embargo
 
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