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Facebook...what could go wrong

Fallacious to believe this makes any real difference.
Maybe not. Google tracks me I'm sure. My ISP is almost assuredly being monitored by the NSA.

But, if you aren't paying for the service (Facebook), you ARE the service.

I wasn't willing to trade my privacy to Facebook for status updates from people I don't really care about.
 
Lol...funny you talking about Facebook, being a Facebook stalker and all...
Facebook stalker? I'm not the guy who stalks teenage boys claiming to be someone who can help them get college scholarships. "Player Performance Specialist." Riiight.

Your projection is really super creepy.
 
But, if you aren't paying for the service (Facebook), you ARE the service.
Like this board? Or is Verizon somehow immune from this thesis?

I suspect there is much more to mine here than Facebook ever exposed. As well, scraping/crawling this site is trivial compared to the getting access to the now deprecated Graph API used by the likes of CA.
 
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Like this board? Or is Verizon somehow immune from this thesis?

I suspect there is much more to mine here than Facebook ever exposed. As well, scraping/crawling this site is trivial compared to the getting access to the now deprecated Graph API used by the likes of CA.
I understand that Facebook isn’t the only way to have our privacy violated, but are you ok with Facebook having medical records?
 
This entire brouhaha with Facebook and "stealing" of data starts and stops with Facebook. They placed the tools in their program which allowed anyone smart enough to use them to "steal" the data. The pathway to access the data were in the "on" position as the default setting. As with the hospitals above, Facebook encouraged people to put as much information about themselves on their site with the express purpose of extrapolating the information for their gain. I'm sure these are not the only questionable uses of data we will learn about Facebook.

It's all on Facebook notwithstanding their desire to point fingers of blame elsewhere.
 
This entire brouhaha with Facebook and "stealing" of data starts and stops with Facebook. They placed the tools in their program which allowed anyone smart enough to use them to "steal" the data. The pathway to access the data were in the "on" position as the default setting. As with the hospitals above, Facebook encouraged people to put as much information about themselves on their site with the express purpose of extrapolating the information for their gain. I'm sure these are not the only questionable uses of data we will learn about Facebook.

It's all on Facebook notwithstanding their desire to point fingers of blame elsewhere.

While Facebook deserves blame, if you’re not also pointing a finger at ATT/Verizon/Apple/Android, you’re missing the boat, man.
 
Facebook, like any other app, is dependent upon the settings on your phone. Location, notably.
 
Like this board? Or is Verizon somehow immune from this thesis?

I suspect there is much more to mine here than Facebook ever exposed. As well, scraping/crawling this site is trivial compared to the getting access to the now deprecated Graph API used by the likes of CA.

Since I pay a subscription to Rivals, I expect more privacy than those who don't. Absolutely.

It is all about reducing your exposure. I think Facebook has a ton of data that you are giving them to use their platform. If I can reduce the attack surface, then I'm less at risk.

Yes in the big picture, there are many things out of my control. But, I can control some things. Namely, my choice to not use Facebook.
 
How does being subscribed versus not being subscribed to Rivals lead you to believe you’re safer on here? Really?
Because I expect them to not shove advertising at me like they do you. As such, there is no reason to be inspecting my cookies or other history.
 
Because I expect them to not shove advertising at me like they do you. As such, there is no reason to be inspecting my cookies or other history.

Huh? You think their advertising model is any different? That’s a very naive position, DChi. If anything, you may be getting MORE ads as a subscriber.

I can tell you having been a no sub for months now...I don’t see very many ads on here. At all.
 
Since I pay a subscription to Rivals, I expect more privacy than those who don't. Absolutely.

It is all about reducing your exposure. I think Facebook has a ton of data that you are giving them to use their platform. If I can reduce the attack surface, then I'm less at risk.

Yes in the big picture, there are many things out of my control. But, I can control some things. Namely, my choice to not use Facebook.
I am an old man that simply does not understand what the Facebook controversy is about. What has Facebook done that has people so upset? This is a sincere question. All that computer/internet crap has shot way over my head. What has people so upset? What did Facebook do? Can you give a simplified explanation?
 
Huh? You think their advertising model is any different? That’s a very naive position, DChi. If anything, you may be getting MORE ads as a subscriber.

I can tell you having been a no sub for months now...I don’t see very many ads on here. At all.

Maybe not. But I also use private browsing, application and home firewalls, add blockers and a personal VPN client. I also stick to a pretty select set of sites and am cautious about what data I put out there.
 
Huh? You think their advertising model is any different? That’s a very naive position, DChi. If anything, you may be getting MORE ads as a subscriber.

I can tell you having been a no sub for months now...I don’t see very many ads on here. At all.

You don't know wtf you're talking about.
 
Maybe not. But I also use private browsing, application and home firewalls, add blockers and a personal VPN client. I also stick to a pretty select set of sites and am cautious about what data I put out there.

Fair enough. Better safe than sorry if that’s your personal preference.
 
I understand that Facebook isn’t the only way to have our privacy violated, but are you ok with Facebook having medical records?
Not really worried about it. The notion of privacy has forever changed. The sooner people accept and adapt to that the better.
 
This entire brouhaha with Facebook and "stealing" of data starts and stops with Facebook. They placed the tools in their program which allowed anyone smart enough to use them to "steal" the data. The pathway to access the data were in the "on" position as the default setting. As with the hospitals above, Facebook encouraged people to put as much information about themselves on their site with the express purpose of extrapolating the information for their gain. I'm sure these are not the only questionable uses of data we will learn about Facebook.

It's all on Facebook notwithstanding their desire to point fingers of blame elsewhere.
Twitter much?
 
Since I pay a subscription to Rivals, I expect more privacy than those who don't. Absolutely.

It is all about reducing your exposure. I think Facebook has a ton of data that you are giving them to use their platform. If I can reduce the attack surface, then I'm less at risk.

Yes in the big picture, there are many things out of my control. But, I can control some things. Namely, my choice to not use Facebook.
This very thread has been indexed dozens of times since you posted. The content is searchable by anyone. You have zero privacy on this board.
 
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Not really worried about it. The notion of privacy has forever changed. The sooner people accept and adapt to that the better.
What a fvcking terrible comment.

It’s changed, true, but you just give up?

I suppose you feel the same way about guns then, huh? There are 300 million out there, sooner you can accept it, the better.
 
I am an old man that simply does not understand what the Facebook controversy is about. What has Facebook done that has people so upset? This is a sincere question. All that computer/internet crap has shot way over my head. What has people so upset? What did Facebook do? Can you give a simplified explanation?
Facebook allowed developers of software for their platform access to data where users consented to that access. If you have used the platform, you consent to such things frequently. When you "log in with Facebook" you are doing just this. In technical terms this is a three legged oauth(authorization) flow.

In the Cambridge Analytica case, a quiz app that a research wrote for the Facebook platform pulled significant data into off platform analysis systems that were subsequently used to Target those users with political messages unrelated to the quiz. Further, Facebook previously allowed for your graph (friends for instance) to be accessible extending the data exposed by some crappy personality quiz.

It is somewhat up for debate whether the researcher had rights to pull that data down for analysis/research. I no longer have a copy of the original Terms and Conditions that were in force at the time, but generally you were allowed to access and process data outside the Facebook universe with strict rules about what you did with the data. What is clear is the researcher improperly used that data for targeting users later.

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What a fvcking terrible comment.

It’s changed, true, but you just give up?

I suppose you feel the same way about guns then, huh? There are 300 million out there, sooner you can accept it, the better.
Give up? No. Control what I can reasonably control? Yes. Worried about basic health data "leaking" ? No, you can get most of that already with little effort.
 
What a fvcking terrible comment.

It’s changed, true, but you just give up?

I suppose you feel the same way about guns then, huh? There are 300 million out there, sooner you can accept it, the better.

Lol...October 26, 2001.
 
Not really worried about it. The notion of privacy has forever changed. The sooner people accept and adapt to that the better.
This is a very good point. However, I’m interested in minimizing my footprint in this new world whatever that means.
 
Was that the day the national debt became to biggest concern to national security? Or maybe the day that Clinton tax increases boomed the economy?

Do some research, genius. It was a rather important day in the evolution of your privacy lol.

Unfvck your head from your ass occasionally. Might do ya some good haha
 
This is a very good point. However, I’m interested in minimizing my footprint in this new world whatever that means.
As you should, just realize that the info contemplated to be gathered in this study is readily deducible from many different sources and is such basic info that it would not as I understand it be of much value.
 
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As you should, just realize that the info contemplated to be gathered in this study is readily deducible from many different sources and is such basic info that it would not as I understand it be of much value.
Sure. That’s why Facebook wanted it.
 
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